Galvo growing claws: in addition to its regular attacks?


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Hi again

So my Many Forms oracle will be taking the shape of a galvo at level 11 onward. It's an amorphous blob of eels with a bite attack and two slams.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/magical-beasts/galvo/

He's also going to take eldritch heritage with the abyssal bloodline, so he can grow claws. The polymorph rules expressly state that you can still grow sorcerer claws when shapechanged.

But do the claws add to the galvo's natural attacks, so you get a bite, two slams and two claws? Or do they replace two of them, probably the slams?

It seems obvious that if you grow sorcerer claws in the shape of, say, a deinonychus, you grow them on the same limbs which you would otherwise be using for the existing claw attacks, so the new claws would replace the old. But the galvo is just a blob of eels which can extend bits of itself to make attacks. There seems no obvious reason to treat it like a mammal, with one mouth (bite) and two arms (slams). It can extend two eel-blobs for its slams and then grow claws on some different eels and slash with them.

What do you think?

Thanks for helping.

Shadow Lodge

I'd say he either gets the claws or the slams. Since the claws do Piercing and Slashing Damage and the Slams deal Bludgeoning damage this can be useful.


Slams seem to use "arms" so would take up those limbs for claw use.
If I grappled it, (a mistake for sure) it loses an arm to attack with and nothing says in swarmlike it just grows a new arm for attacking.

So yeah I think I agree the claws or the slams you choose


Hmm. I think the grappling question would have the opposite answer. Look at it from a GM's perspective. If a player did try and grapple a galvo (which, as you say, would be a profoundly bad idea!) would the GM let the player stop it attacking by holding down an 'arm'?

If you tried to grab the lump which slammed you the previous round, wouldn't the galvo just extrude a different lump and slam you with that?

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