Is There Any Legal Way To Wield A 2-Handed Weapon As A 1-Handed Weapon?


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Scarab Sages

Hello I've been searching through a large amount of Threads/Posts, and they mostly talking about specific Weapons, Titan Mauler, or Strongarm Bracers.

My question is there any Feat, Trait, or Magic Item Legal in Society, that will let you use any Weapon Size, 1 size larger, such as this.

Orcgash is a medium sized creature, he is trying to wield a Large Cutlass, the size difference Means that the Large Cutlass is now wielded as Two-Handed Weapon rather than One-Handed Weapon, so he takes a -2 to attack rolls. He wishes to Use the Large Cutlass as One-Handed Weapon.

How can he do that? Cause the only ways i found is Enlarge Person or Titan Mauler Barbarian. Is there any way that this can be Legal in Society Games?

Besides the Tiefling Method.


there's a way to wield a polearm or spear 2h while also wielding a shield:

Armor Master's Handbook contains wrote:
Shield Brace: You can use a two-handed weapon sized appropriately for you from the polearm or spears weapon group while also using a light, heavy, or tower shield with which you are proficient. The shield’s armor check penalty (if any) applies to attacks made with the weapon.

Scarab Sages

So Polearms are possible, i know of a Earth Breaker, Scimitar, and Bastard Sword, but is it possible with other Weapons?


May I suggest a Fauchard, It's an exotic polearm, 18-20x2, 1d10. From Classic Horrors Revisted, page 8. Add shield Brace, presto.
Pretty sure is legal for play.


Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:
So Polearms are possible, i know of a Earth Breaker, Scimitar, and Bastard Sword, but is it possible with other Weapons?

Scimitars are 1-handed weapons.


Here is a way that i've seen. I'm sure you can expect table variation on it (may require more uses of Martial Versatility depending on who you ask).

EDIT: As James Rinser pointed out i missed the fact that you are asking about inappropriately sized 1-handers, this method won't work for that.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

I think everyone posting here is missing that he wants to use a inappropriately sized (one size larger than the PC) one handed weapon as a one handed weapon.

He doesn't want to use a two handed as one handed.


Yup, totally missed that, good catch

The only one i know of for what you're asking only works for Dwarves, which doesn't fit your example.


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May I suggest posting this question to Roleplaying Guild Message board as it is a PFS question.

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Vince Frost wrote:
May I suggest posting this question to Roleplaying Guild Message board as it is a PFS question.

Is that because you think it might have a PFS only rule allowing?

Otherwise, asking a rules question in the PFS forums usually net people asking for the thread to be moved to the rules forum, here.


James Risner wrote:
Vince Frost wrote:
May I suggest posting this question to Roleplaying Guild Message board as it is a PFS question.

Is that because you think it might have a PFS only rule allowing?

Otherwise, asking a rules question in the PFS forums usually net people asking for the thread to be moved to the rules forum, here.

He didn't ask what rules there where but what rules where "Legal in Society". As such, I'd think he'd be much better served in a PFS forum as people like myself don't play PFS and have NO CLUE which rule is PFS legal or not.

So in essence, it IS all about "PFS only rule allowing": It's asking for rules elements the PFS house-rules allow and not a general 'what rules allow me to do this' that the rules section is suited for.


this is a rules question. Can you wield a large one-handed weapon in one hand. If you don't know if the answer is PFS legal tell the answer you have and let them know you aren't sure if it's legal.

The reason is it's a rules question to find the options. A PFS question of which of those options are legal is tacked on at the end of his main question. Thus this is the correct place, because the PFS thread would have the thread moved back here.

To the OP, as far as I'm aware there's not a way to do it. There are some letting you wield a two-handed as a one-handed, but nothing I know of that lets you wield an over-sized one-handed as one-handed.


Chess Pwn wrote:

this is a rules question. Can you wield a large one-handed weapon in one hand. If you don't know if the answer is PFS legal tell the answer you have and let them know you aren't sure if it's legal.

The reason is it's a rules question to find the options. A PFS question of which of those options are legal is tacked on at the end of his main question. Thus this is the correct place, because the PFS thread would have the thread moved back here.

I'd disagree. The OP starts off by saying he knows what the rules are, "specific Weapons, Titan Mauler, or Strongarm Bracers". He then asked what was "Legal in Society". And then he ends with "Is there any way that this can be Legal in Society Games?" This is clearly NOT a rules question but a 'what's legal in PFS' question. Not a 'what's legal in pathfinder' question but 'what's legal in PFS' question.

Is 'what's legal in PFS' is considered a rules question somehow? If it is, I guess I don't understand how the different sections are delineated. I know I was thinking the same thing as Vince Frost when I noticed which section it was posted in.

Scarab Sages

Ok so i understand i have worded the question wrong. So what im trying to understand.

Is there any way to Wield a Large 1-Handed Weapon in 1 Hand Without Increasing Your Size.

Can a Bloodrager Wield a Large Bastard Sword in 1 Hand?


Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:

Ok so i understand i have worded the question wrong. So what im trying to understand.

Is there any way to Wield a Large 1-Handed Weapon in 1 Hand Without Increasing Your Size.

Can a Bloodrager Wield a Large Bastard Sword in 1 Hand?

I think the others have covered the options pretty well. There are a few ways but none are very exciting and generally inferior to other options. Do you mind if I ask why you're trying to do this? What are you attempting to gain? Is it a bigger damage dice? If we know this, it might be possible to give options that could work without using oversized weapons.


House rules cover everything-
Talk to your GM if you don't see or find anything concrete.
He can make acceptations for you, just go into detail on what you want, and both of you can work together and come up with something fair and balanced.

For example, maybe a Strength and Dexterity combo is needed- maybe there is penalties to strike... etc.

If he just says no- then thats the law.

Scarab Sages

Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:


Orcgash is a medium sized creature, he is trying to wield a Large Cutlass, the size difference Means that the Large Cutlass is now wielded as Two-Handed Weapon rather than One-Handed Weapon, so he takes a -2 to attack rolls. He wishes to Use the Large Cutlass as One-Handed Weapon.

What's the logic here? Is the goal just having a larger damage die, or is there some more specific advantage with having a Large Cutlass instead of a medium one?

For rules that can do this, none come to mind for normal, viable solutions. Yeah, you could enlarge yourself, then pick up the weapon - but if you were holding the weapon while it was cast, it would enlarge with you, becoming a Huge Cutlass.

If looking for non-cutlass weapon, the Shillelagh spell can allow a one-handed Oak Club to "count as" being 2 sizes larger. It remains it's size, but it would deal damage as if a huge club and remains one-handed - that's probably the closest that exists without being a convoluted solution.


Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:

Ok so i understand i have worded the question wrong. So what im trying to understand.

Is there any way to Wield a Large 1-Handed Weapon in 1 Hand Without Increasing Your Size.

Can a Bloodrager Wield a Large Bastard Sword in 1 Hand?

Maybe using a Large Sun Blade. You wield a Sun Blade as if it was a shortsword (normally a light weapon) so a Large Sun Blade wielded by a medium character should count as a one-handed weapon (assuming you don't use 'magic items automatically resize themselves for the character' rules).

Scarab Sages

graystone wrote:
Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:

Ok so i understand i have worded the question wrong. So what im trying to understand.

Is there any way to Wield a Large 1-Handed Weapon in 1 Hand Without Increasing Your Size.

Can a Bloodrager Wield a Large Bastard Sword in 1 Hand?

I think the others have covered the options pretty well. There are a few ways but none are very exciting and generally inferior to other options. Do you mind if I ask why you're trying to do this? What are you attempting to gain? Is it a bigger damage dice? If we know this, it might be possible to give options that could work without using oversized weapons.

So the reason i was trying to find a way to make this work is my gm plays his games with soceity only rules, and there is a Huge Bastard Sword that my guy needs to fight with to defeat the giant king, cause i had challenged him to a duel to the death, my diplomacy roll was insanely awful so now i have a day in character and 1 week out of character to find a Legal way to wield this Huge Bastard Sword or my guy will die.

I can't back out cause my companions are captured and if i run they die i lose they die so basically its sick or swim.

Forgot to mention i don't have my spells yet and no one can cast enlarge person


Iron Lord's Transforming Slivers: use them twice to change it from a huge sword to a medium sized one. And it's PFS legal! ;)

Grand Lodge

Good find graystone.

If he has Exotic Weapon Prof. Bastard sword he could just shrink it once and wield it 2 handed as well.


Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Good find graystone.

If he has Exotic Weapon Prof. Bastard sword he could just shrink it once and wield it 2 handed as well.

True, but personally I'd shrink it enough to get rid of the minuses to hit. A giant king sounds like he'll have some AC so I wouldn't skimp on the to hit. With the slivers being only 1000gp, I'd use two in a heartbeat.

Scarab Sages

Ok thanks guys, that will at least let me be able to use it, hopefully ill be able to kill him too :)


Paradox Fate's Traveler wrote:
Ok thanks guys, that will at least let me be able to use it, hopefully ill be able to kill him too :)

Cool, glad I could help. ;)

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