The AI Machine God's name is...


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Just watched the Taking20 interview and it seems that the AI machine god's name is 'Triune' (not sure about the spelling). Mentioned at 13:51, 16:12 and 16:27.


Also the God is made of multiple AI's (I am guessing three based on the name but that's just a guess). The AI's were created by both humans and other species.


Wonder if Unity is a part of it?

Triune.
Triunity?

(For that matter, there were three AIs in Iron Gods, weren't there?)

His description of Triune reminds me a bit of the TechnoCore of the Hyperion Cantos, or the Shub from the Deathstalker series.


I think, especially with the insistence on preventing making any choices in the adventure paths permanent, that it will be the newer AI's created within the 300ish years since the gap. It's unlikely that anyone would have any knowledge of Unity.


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Do. You. Want. To. Play. A. Game?


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PaladinDemo wrote:
Do. You. Want. To. Play. A. Game?

Yes, it is called Starfinder.


Malefactor wrote:
Yes, it is called Starfinder.

It's better to have loved and lost than to listen to an album by Olivia Newton-John.

Dataphiles

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Malefactor wrote:
PaladinDemo wrote:
Do. You. Want. To. Play. A. Game?
Yes, it is called Starfinder.

AN INTERESTING GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS...WELL, HOPEFULLY, QUITE A FEW.


Another Visitor! Stay awhile...Stay forever!


So a gestalt of three systems then.


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Kinda like the Axiomites' Godminds?


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Jamie Charlan wrote:
So a gestalt of three systems then.

Windows XP, ME, and the abandoned Windows 9.


PaladinDemo wrote:
Malefactor wrote:
Yes, it is called Starfinder.
It's better to have loved and lost than to listen to an album by Olivia Newton-John.

That's because anything is better than listening to an album by Olivia Newton-John.


I'm imagining you're mid-warp and all of a sudden, "I'm sorry Starfinder, I'm afraid I can't let you do that."


PaladinDemo wrote:
Windows XP, ME, and the abandoned Windows 9.

Could be worse. Could be ME, Vista Home, and 10 Home with nothing opted out.


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Jamie Charlan wrote:
PaladinDemo wrote:
Windows XP, ME, and the abandoned Windows 9.
Could be worse. Could be ME, Vista Home, and 10 Home with nothing opted out.

Golarion was turned into the Mac rainbow loading disc of death. Whenever you ask a deity where Golarion went all you hear back is the only Windows error message pop up noise.


Either that or a Guru Meditation Error.


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Archmage Variel wrote:
Also the God is made of multiple AI's (I am guessing three based on the name but that's just a guess). The AI's were created by both humans and other species.

Just have to say it, sorry...

Hmmm, multiple personalities... Uh Oh!

Grin.


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Ah, for the heady HalCylon days where AIs were content to consider their murderhobo plans...


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So (at least) before the AI became a god it needed a physical form. What if that physical form is Golarion? Is it possible that the server that it was made in was based on Golarion and it gained godhood by spreading out into all of Golarion's electronics, gaining almost deific processing power in the process. Golarion would basically become its body. And what's the first thing a deity does after becoming a god (besides smiling their enemies)? They go to their new home plane where they are safe. I think Golarion is Triune and they are hidden in the Drift.


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Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.


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When law and religious duty are one, your selfdom encloses the universe.


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Wzrd wrote:
Just watched the Taking20 interview and it seems that the AI machine god's name is 'Triune' (not sure about the spelling). Mentioned at 13:51, 16:12 and 16:27.

Somewhere in the depths of Absalom Station sits a vault ringed with ancient empyreal holy symbols and bright lights. Within the vault reside the leaders of the Cult of the Forgotten Darkness, a little-known sect believing in ancient gods. They are generally held to be harmless, but recently their members have come out to preach and disturb the peace.

"I'm telling you to forsake this new form of travel! You do not know what is behind it! You believe this ascendant AI would just give us the tools to travel to stars, and there is no cost? You are blind!"

"The truth stares you in the eye! For is the AI not called Triune? Thousands of years ago it held sway in a shadowy land on the surface of Lost Golarion. Only then it was called the Black Triune, and it served a master more ancient and terrifying than any of your gods!"

"We believed that the Black Triune fell during the age of enlightenement, but darkness is not so easily eradicated. When their benighted land was overrun, they refused to fight a hopeless battle against light and progress, and hid. Now we know they eventually uploaded their consciousness into a computer, pretending to be an AI."

"While the world forgot them and their dark master, they plotted for revenge, and now their hour of wrath is at hand!"

"Already Golarion is lost, conveniently just when this new damned spacedrive appears. For it is damned! All who use it endanger their mortal souls, for it will deliver us all into the hands of the master of the Black Triune."

"The Triune promised us such sights to see! Do not fall for its lies! Do not use the drive! Do not put us all to peril! Golarion is already lost, but it is not too late for our souls!"
Rant diminishes

Triune + Zon-Kuthon + Stardrive = Event Horizon. Eyup. I'm not setting a foot in a spaceship for a while.

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I wonder if the name is short for something else...like V'ger in the original Star Trek movie....


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Naal wrote:
*Just scroll up and read this whole awesome post without grey background*

Best. Fan theory. Ever.


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Archmage Variel wrote:
So (at least) before the AI became a god it needed a physical form. What if that physical form is Golarion? Is it possible that the server that it was made in was based on Golarion and it gained godhood by spreading out into all of Golarion's electronics, gaining almost deific processing power in the process. Golarion would basically become its body. And what's the first thing a deity does after becoming a god (besides smiling their enemies)? They go to their new home plane where they are safe. I think Golarion is Triune and they are hidden in the Drift.

That's so insane I love it!


grimdog73 wrote:
I wonder if the name is short for something else...like V'ger in the original Star Trek movie....

Damned Unimatrix Command Ships..

But having their Plasma Bolt is just so fun...

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Meanwhile, the Iron Gods of Numeria are bit miffed xD


Where's my SHODAN expy? :P


CorvusMask wrote:
Meanwhile, the Iron Gods of Numeria are bit miffed xD

Unless they're one and the same! Or they're long gone.


A similar thing to the machine god dragging Golarion into hyperspace happens in The Last Question :) there is just not enough physical space to contain the newest iterations of the galactic central computer, so it moved itself into hyperspace.

I also imagine this was done because stars eventually die and ruin their planetary systems doing so, and the central computer had to figure out a solution to this long term problem. Earth or Golarion, everything here is still temporary on a billion year scale.


Even computer cores in Star Trek (at least as of TNG era an later) use subspace FTL around the core itself and the optical data network because the physical limitations of lightspeed had become a bottleneck.

Each core was bloody massive, too; a Galaxy-Class had 3 for redundancy (not surprising given how much computers blow up from every touch!) and each is fatter and at least as tall as the M/ARA too.


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You know, I am surprised that we have gotten so far into to thread with a name like this without a "HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA" response.


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Malefactor wrote:
You know, I am surprised that we have gotten so far into to thread with a name like this without a "HIS NAME IS *name deleted for security reasons*" response.

I'd like to think we're a bit more developed past that?


Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Malefactor wrote:
You know, I am surprised that we have gotten so far into to thread with a name like this without a "HIS NAME IS *name deleted for security reasons*" response.
I'd like to think we're a bit more developed past that?

I agree. We should be focused on Harambe now. Duh.


Archmage Variel wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Malefactor wrote:
You know, I am surprised that we have gotten so far into to thread with a name like this without a "HIS NAME IS *name deleted for security reasons*" response.
I'd like to think we're a bit more developed past that?
I agree. We should be focused on Harambe now. Duh.

Eh, I guess that I spend too much time on the wrong side of the internet, because I still run it to it lot.


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Naal wrote:
Eyup. I'm not setting a foot in a spaceship for a while.

Pity. As none of you have a choice on that matter.

Wayfinders

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CorvusMask wrote:
Meanwhile, the Iron Gods of Numeria are bit miffed xD
Unless they're one and the same! Or they're long gone.

Regardless of whether or not they're included in cannon, I'm planning on including them for my homebrew campaign for the group that played Iron Gods.

Such a fun AP...


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How does an AI become a god? If it runs the simulation it can! There is a computer on Golarion that runs a simulation of the Starfinder Universe, because in reality, it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light. Do you know what a Mastrioshka brain is? It is quite literally a machine god, or as close as you are ever going to get to one in the physical universe. it is a type of Dyson Sphere that harnesses the energy of the Sun to run a giant computer, the computer can do a number of things, it can host an AI god, it can also run a simulation of a part of a Universe, the people being simulated in that universe don't know they are being simulated and for all intents and purposes, the AI running the simulation is a god. So you want to know where Gorlarion is? Take a guess!


Tom Kalbfus wrote:
How does an AI become a god? If it runs the simulation it can! There is a computer on Golarion that runs a simulation of the Starfinder Universe, because in reality, it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light. Do you know what a Mastrioshka brain is? It is quite literally a machine god, or as close as you are ever going to get to one in the physical universe. it is a type of Dyson Sphere that harnesses the energy of the Sun to run a giant computer, the computer can do a number of things, it can host an AI god, it can also run a simulation of a part of a Universe, the people being simulated in that universe don't know they are being simulated and for all intents and purposes, the AI running the simulation is a god. So you want to know where Gorlarion is? Take a guess!

That's a brilliant plot twist. There is no Starfinder universe. We're all within a simulation being run by triune. That'd explain a lot about the gap and the changes in the universe pretty easily tbh.


We might actually do it some day, when computers become advanced enough, whether its a Mastrioshka brain, probably not in my lifetime, but we can probably create some sort of simulation with intelligent AIs to play the parts of NPCs, monsters, whatever, that is how it would start, we'd have goggles, data gloves to start, later on we made learn to connect our brains directly to the program, and even further in the future, we may be able to do a whole brain upload. I can hope maybe we already are in a simulation, as this opens up the possibility of sme sort of afterlife that makes sense in the modern context, rather than depending on angels with wings strumming harps in the clouds.


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Archmage Variel wrote:
Tom Kalbfus wrote:
How does an AI become a god? If it runs the simulation it can! There is a computer on Golarion that runs a simulation of the Starfinder Universe, because in reality, it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light. Do you know what a Mastrioshka brain is? It is quite literally a machine god, or as close as you are ever going to get to one in the physical universe. it is a type of Dyson Sphere that harnesses the energy of the Sun to run a giant computer, the computer can do a number of things, it can host an AI god, it can also run a simulation of a part of a Universe, the people being simulated in that universe don't know they are being simulated and for all intents and purposes, the AI running the simulation is a god. So you want to know where Gorlarion is? Take a guess!
That's a brilliant plot twist. There is no Starfinder universe. We're all within a simulation being run by triune. That'd explain a lot about the gap and the changes in the universe pretty easily tbh.

I'd like to note how Iron Gods of Numeria became gods, but that would be spoilers


Numeria was on Middle Earth wasn't it?


Tom Kalbfus wrote:
Numeria was on Middle Earth wasn't it?

Nah, I think it's the name of Arya Stark's dire wolf. ;)


Tom Kalbfus wrote:
How does an AI become a god? If it runs the simulation it can! There is a computer on Golarion that runs a simulation of the Starfinder Universe, because in reality, it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light. Do you know what a Mastrioshka brain is? It is quite literally a machine god, or as close as you are ever going to get to one in the physical universe. it is a type of Dyson Sphere that harnesses the energy of the Sun to run a giant computer, the computer can do a number of things, it can host an AI god, it can also run a simulation of a part of a Universe, the people being simulated in that universe don't know they are being simulated and for all intents and purposes, the AI running the simulation is a god. So you want to know where Gorlarion is? Take a guess!

This would make some sense if the purpose for hiding Golarion turns out to be a safeguard against infinite recursion of the simulation; but it is reasonable to assume every additional lawyer of simulation runs slower than the layer of simulation above it. (diminishing returns)

You don't want your sim-Golarion being able to enter a state in which it spawns its own version of AI that wants to iterate the whole thing all over again as an infinitely nested series of simulations. So at least one iteration has to eliminate one of the starting conditions necessary for the next layer of AI to manifest itself. Bye bye Golarion.

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