What the purpose of this game ?


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I losing it.

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To have fun.


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Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.


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I've heard tell that if enough people collectively pretend that any given fantasy world exists, they over-ride the current dominant Weltanschauung and replace it with the fantasy.

This, incidentally, also explains why rules arguments get so heated--we're talking future ontology here, people!


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quibblemuch wrote:

I've heard tell that if enough people collectively pretend that any given fantasy world exists, they over-ride the current dominant Weltanschauung and replace it with the fantasy.

This, incidentally, also explains why rules arguments get so heated--we're talking future ontology here, people!

I am pretty sure that is how White Wolf's Mage the Awakening actually worked.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
quibblemuch wrote:

I've heard tell that if enough people collectively pretend that any given fantasy world exists, they over-ride the current dominant Weltanschauung and replace it with the fantasy.

This, incidentally, also explains why rules arguments get so heated--we're talking future ontology here, people!

I am pretty sure that is how White Wolf's Mage the Awakening actually worked.

There was also a great Sandman story about a cat who learns that house cats used to be the size of humans and humans the size of cats, and if enough felines dream of the Old Ways, they will return...

To the OP - sorry you can't see much purpose in the game. Have you read any research on the functions of play in mammals and select Corvidae? Fascinating stuff...


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but why would they want to go back to the old way cats have the life.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
but why would they want to go back to the old way cats have the life.

In the story, it was even better. The wee people were their servants still, AND there was none of this "picking up against their will" or "refusing to feed promptly" nonsense.


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Rysky wrote:
To have fun.

Amusing anecdote:

I was once in a seminar on how to teach writing (that being the kind of thing I used to do). The seminar leader was going around the room soliciting answers to the question: "Why might someone write?" People would call out their answer (e.g., "To persuade others to their opinion") and she'd repeat it back with a "Yes, good" and firm head nod.

She gets to me last. I offer something that has hitherto gone unmentioned.

"To have fun."

Everyone looks at me like I'd grown a third eye. The seminar leader does a double take. She blinks. "Yes, good," she says, "to be part of a community."

Fun is, it seems, a suspect motive.


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stop making me favorite all your posts Quibblemuch!

Silver Crusade

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quibblemuch wrote:
Rysky wrote:
To have fun.

Amusing anecdote:

I was once in a seminar on how to teach writing (that being the kind of thing I used to do). The seminar leader was going around the room soliciting answers to the question: "Why might someone write?" People would call out their answer (e.g., "To persuade others to their opinion") and she'd repeat it back with a "Yes, good" and firm head nod.

She gets to me last. I offer something that has hitherto gone unmentioned.

"To have fun."

Everyone looks at me like I'd grown a third eye. The seminar leader does a double take. She blinks. "Yes, good," she says, "to be part of a community."

Fun is, it seems, a suspect motive.

:(

Silver Crusade

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
stop making me favorite all your posts Quibblemuch!

How could you not favorite posts with that face, look at em!


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Rysky wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
stop making me favorite all your posts Quibblemuch!
How could you not favorite posts with that face, look at em!

Tatiana Vetrova rocks!

Silver Crusade

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quibblemuch wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
stop making me favorite all your posts Quibblemuch!
How could you not favorite posts with that face, look at em!
Tatiana Vetrova rocks!

*clicks on link*

Oooooo...


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Right? She did Polina from Reign of Winter (this avatar), which is one of my favorite pieces of fantasy artwork.

Oooo! That reminds me--to the OP:

Looking at pretty artwork is another purpose of the game. So. Much. Pretty. Art.

Silver Crusade

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quibblemuch wrote:

Right? She did Polina from Reign of Winter (this avatar), which is one of my favorite pieces of fantasy artwork.

Oooo! That reminds me--to the OP:

Looking at pretty artwork is another purpose of the game. So. Much. Pretty. Art.

*looks at own Tumblr*

Yep.


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But doesn't putting artwork in a tumbler kind of diminish the value.

You gotta take care of that s$*~, put it up on a wall yo.

Silver Crusade

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Captain Yesterday wrote:

But doesn't putting artwork in a tumbler kind of diminish the value.

You gotta take care of that s*&#, put it up on a wall yo.

I have limited wall space, plenty of Tumblr though.


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But it just spins around smashing into each other in a tumbler, and then no one can see it.

Have you considered putting it on the internet, I hear you can find anything there.


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Rysky wrote:
Captain Yesterday wrote:

But doesn't putting artwork in a tumbler kind of diminish the value.

You gotta take care of that s*&#, put it up on a wall yo.

I have limited wall space, plenty of Tumblr though.

Everyone has plenty of Tumblr.


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You see! This is what happens when you evade smurf traps, I could've totally gotten a secondary smurfing.

Guess, I'm just going to have to make it my default alias. :-)

Silver Crusade

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Captain Yesterday wrote:

But it just spins around smashing into each other in a tumbler, and then no one can see it.

Have you considered putting it on the internet, I hear you can find anything there.

I can see it, and I can link to it :3


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@OP: It's like fantasy football with more fantasy, less football, and more dice rolling.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
quibblemuch wrote:

I've heard tell that if enough people collectively pretend that any given fantasy world exists, they over-ride the current dominant Weltanschauung and replace it with the fantasy.

This, incidentally, also explains why rules arguments get so heated--we're talking future ontology here, people!

I am pretty sure that is how White Wolf's Mage the Awakening actually worked.

Basically yeah, and when your PCs ran into a RAW vs. RAI debate in teh setting reality, playing the part of the ineffectual GM, would just flip the table over on you.


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Am I only one upset that Veilgn never posted back?


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Am I only one upset that Veilgn never posted back?

I prefer to think we were so rousing and inspirational, they've been playing Pathfinder for 48 hours straight and haven't had time to revisit the boards.

You're welcome, OP. You. Are. Welcome.


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To play it.


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To crush your enemies. To have them driven before you. To hear the lamentations of their men.


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To put off housework.


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To be able to walk around town wearing only a fur loincloth, and if anyone says anything, I can just shove my character sheet in their face and say "I'm a Barbarian, yo!"


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To blow your enemies into tiny bits.


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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
To crush your enemies. To have them driven before you. To hear the lamentations of their men.

Really, as long as there are lamentations, I'm good.


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The object of ANY game is to have fun.

Fun is subjective, though.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. And to read the Succubus in a Grapple thread on the Paizo forums.

FTFY


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Captain Yesterday Smurf wrote:
To put off housework.

That's where the lamentations of the men come in.


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andygal wrote:
To blow your enemies into tiny bits. In thy mercy.

FTFY

Silver Crusade

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In several cultures dreams are as important as being awake. Even in the 21st century, stories are a shared experience and the ties that bind. Movies and video games have never been more popular, they are world we can inhabit together where we do not pay the rent or worry about parking spots or foreign policy or health or, or.

PF gives even more control of the avatar, much more than rooting for a cinema superhero. At the same time, it simplifies life into a battle system. There is a way to win and it is very capitalistic - more is more, and items and power are the way to succeed.

As an example, think of a 5th level Druid or Shaman as an elder of her village. In a life satisfaction way she has won the game of life, she is loved by her family and community and she is strong enough to defend her people from most relevant threats. Yet only the most placid of PF players would retire a character at this point. I know my PCs may start humble but the capitalistic power grind means they end up striving to be invincible, transcending their personhood. I have played a Void Wizard from levels 1 to 19, it was strange how his priorities changed in my mind, and I supposedly had a choice in his direction. In the end he became much like too many PF heroes - an unkillable monster, showing off with his largesse to the poor and homeless while at the same time spending most of his energy on wholesale, impassive and production-line slaughter of his enemies, in his case Demons.

He was learning nothing more, I was learning nothing. I sent him off into outer space (Desna worshipper).


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http://www.dorktower.com/2012/01/26/dork-tower-thursday-january-26-2012/

Or having fun :-)

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To tell a story.


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kill, Kill, KILL!

A verse from my favorite Thanksgiving carol

I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I want to kill! I want to see
Blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth! Eat dead, burnt bodies! I
Mean: Kill. Kill!"

And I started jumpin' up and down, yellin' "KILL! KILL!" and he started
Jumpin' up and down with me, and we was both jumpin' up and down, yellin',
"KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!" and the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me,
Sent me down the hall, said "You're our boy".


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"You can get anything you want...
At Alice's Restaurant... 'excepting Alice."


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...and he said, "What'd ya get kicked from the group for?", an' I said, "Minmaxing."
And they ALL MOVED AWAY FROM ME on the bench there, givin' me the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, until I added, "...and annoying the GM," AND THEY ALL CAME BACK, SHOOK MY HAND, and we had a GREAT TIME talkin' about goblin stabbing and all the groovy things we was talkin' about on the bench there...


Veilgn, I think I understand.
At some point I stopped seeing moving and insightful.
Now the best I see is tiresomely clever.
Our inspirations have turned from literature, to movies, to TV, and, finally, to video games.

Sigh.


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It keeps the clowns trapped within the dark tome awhile longer, thus preserving the fragile life humanity collectively takes for granted.


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What are RPGs? Why do we play narrative games?

Gooooood question. Very complex answer.

Do you really want to take the red pill and start learning how to read the matrix?

Start here.


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Daw wrote:


Our inspirations have turned from literature, to movies, to TV, and, finally, to video games.

Awesome! The more genres and mediums we embrace for our inspirations, the better. Let's see if we can't get "comics", "radio plays" and "music" on there.

Down with the snobbery! Vive la révolution artistique!

;)


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Oh, and stage plays!
And if there's a reason I'm still alive
When all my party members have died
I'm willing to wait for it
I'm willing to wait for it (wait for it)...


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All I know is people did not appreciate it when I was playing an Alchemist.

Turns out people don't like it when you get on the bus and start mixing s$$# in your backpack, and no amount of "but it's just my extracts! They won't even work for you!" will keep them from calling the cops. :-(


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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
To crush your enemies. To have them driven before you. To hear the lamentations of their men.

Nice try but I beat ya to it second post!

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