how would you make a blind character?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


i know oracles can be blind but how would to make another class work with that handy cap?


I *think* there are some witch archetype that can see trough their familiars really early. That could help!


It does not work well to say the least. You cannot target someone with spells nor can you attack without heavy handicaps (let alone find your foe). The various types of blindsense are not a big help, because they are typically a 30' radius.
If your DM knows how blindness works by the rules, don't do it.


Druid maybe? You'd be able to see when wildshaped I think. Unless the character multiclassed or VMC'd into the Clouded Vision oracle curse. Then this wouldn't work.

I don't know if this really counts as "working with that handy cap" though since you'd just be bypassing it instead.


working with bypassing what ever works


eye sight is a hindrance that limits ones visual perceptions to whats in front of them. sure you can see out to what ever but you can still be snuck.. sneaked up on. and you can be fooled by invisibility.


Synthesist Archetype for Summoner means you could later get Tremorsense.

Also I guess Dark Lurker Archetype for Rogue.

Construct focused character might also work.


construct focused character?


zainale wrote:
construct focused character?

Be a blind Construct builder having your constructs fight for you.

Try Construct Rider


A support Cleric or Bard might be doable. You'd still have all the restrictions in hitting or combat, but much of that could be utilized by casting or utilizing support.

You'd have to focus on things that didn't require direct attacks in many instances, but one probably could still be effective.

A summoner might also work relatively well, but many of the attacks would be a result of summons rather than direct spellcasting.


ohh cool

Dark Archive

Tengu Oracle with the Blind curse. Favored Class Bonus advances your curse's level at 150% speed. Blindsense by level 10, get Blind Fight line. Maybe some Dervish Dance build with the Fate's Favored trait to boost the Divine Favor/Power spells?

Either way I wouldn't make a character who is literally blind. The mechanics of Pathfinder are WAY too punishing for that sort of thing, and going out of your way to nab advanced senses means you're essentially jumping through hoops to end up with a regular character.

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I actually did play a martial who was literally blind back in 3.5 with no houserules involved.

If you can bring in some 3.5 feats it's not that hard. Look up the Combat Focus feat tree and Keen Listener. It won't work for the first few levels, but eventually you gain Blindsight 5ft and Keen Listener gets you massive bonuses to finding out what square someone is in, though you might want a GM 'houserule' so that invisible creatures don't get a bonus against it. (that was one of the rather ridiculous side-effects when they combined Spot & Listen)

Frankly - it was easier to separate out sight & hearing when Spot & Listen were separate skills.


For the "low, low cost" of 4 feats you can fight fairly competently while blind against creatures in your melee range. You will need to be at least 7th level before it all comes online though. See the following feat:

Blinded Competence

With it and its pre-reqs you automatically pinpoint locations of creatures within your melee reach, don't suffer mischance to attack things nearby while you can't see them, gain a short range scent ability, bonuses on some perception checks, don't take some of the penalties for being blind, and get the standard benefits of the blind fighting feats.

Flavor wise it might be good for you.

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Cellion wrote:
For the "low, low cost" of 4 feats you can fight fairly competently while blind against creatures in your melee range. You will need to be at least 7th level before it all comes online though. See the following feat:

Actually, since it requires 10 skill ranks, you would need to be at least level 10.


with that feat tree it short cuts the skill requirements.

Blinded Blade Style-
Having this feat counts as having 10 ranks in Perception for the purpose of satisfying the prerequisites of the Improved Blind-Fight feat, as well as any feat that lists Improved Blind-Fight as a prerequisite.

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My bad then >.<

Liberty's Edge

Is there a way to gouge your own eyes out? You could do that. "I turn my blade inward..."


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Is there a way to gouge your own eyes out? You could do that. "I turn my blade inward..."

"Trouble with the contacts, Oedipus?"

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