Any news on Mummy's Mask?


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Keith and Tanis,

Are there already any concrete ideas beyond MM in your minds?
Yes-No answer.

Are you already working on the one after MM?
Yes-No answer please.

Pathfinder ACG Developer

Yes.

Grand Lodge

Ohhhh … is it based on an RPG Adventure Path?

Pathfinder ACG Developer

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Sorry, my NDA limits me to one three letter answer this calendar year, and it's used up.

Grand Lodge

Bummer.


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Keith Richmond wrote:
Sorry, my NDA limits me to one three letter answer this calendar year, and it's used up.

Allow me to offer some alternatives in that case:

y
ya
yeah
bingo
indeed
correct
positive
confirmed
indubitably
you're spot on
without a doubt

;)

Grand Lodge

skizzerz wrote:
Keith Richmond wrote:
Sorry, my NDA limits me to one three letter answer this calendar year, and it's used up.

Allow me to offer some alternatives in that case:

y
ya
yeah
bingo
indeed
correct
positive
confirmed
indubitably
you're spot on
without a doubt

;)

You forgot facetious. :-D


Keith Richmond wrote:
Sorry, my NDA limits me to one three letter answer this calendar year, and it's used up.

So then I assume Tanis has the same right to answer one question for this year.

Big question is, when you design some new path beyond MM, then WHY did Ultra pro stopped the prodution of the Pathfinder sleeves... I need those for all of the PACG products.

So the question for Tanis is, how many more Pathfinder sleeves should i buy NOW for beyond MM products?


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Was anyone stabbed with an icicle?

Are the "victims" just goldfish flopping around on the floor?

Scarab Sages

Since we're on the topic of aquatic creatures, I have to admit that there is really only one question I want answered before the sets release:
How many BUNYIP cards can we expect in both Mummy's Mask and the set after MM?

All other questions are inconsequential and I frankly would prefer to be pleasantly surprised.


Bunyip?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Calthaer wrote:

Since we're on the topic of aquatic creatures, I have to admit that there is really only one question I want answered before the sets release:

How many BUNYIP cards can we expect in both Mummy's Mask and the set after MM?

All other questions are inconsequential and I frankly would prefer to be pleasantly surprised.

Wild theory: There is one bunyip in MM. It is a henchman, and summoning and defeating it is the closing condition for the Oasis location.

Because like, why *else* would you encounter a bunyip in the desert?


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I am disappointed to report that in the RPG Mummy's Mask, there are 0 mentions of bunyips across the entire AP. Hopefully the PACG team can correct this glaring oversight.

Adventure Card Game Designer

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Myfly wrote:
Keith Richmond wrote:
Sorry, my NDA limits me to one three letter answer this calendar year, and it's used up.

So then I assume Tanis has the same right to answer one question for this year.

So the question for Tanis is, how many more Pathfinder sleeves should i buy NOW for beyond MM products?

Yes.


Myfly wrote:


Big question is, when you design some new path beyond MM, then WHY did Ultra pro stopped the prodution of the Pathfinder sleeves... I need those for all of the PACG products.

When/where was this announced?


NyteJKL wrote:
When/where was this announced?

They're shown as Out of Print on the UltraPro website; since Paizo orders them from UltraPro directly Paizo's system has marked them as discontinued. (I don't think there was any real "announcement", just a consequence of inventory systems, but I'm sure someone else will have the right link if I'm wrong. :)

Whether they remain out of print or not is a question for UltraPro, one that may not be answered until they get low on inventory. (You can still order them from both websites, after all.)

Myfly wrote:
So the question for Tanis is, how many more Pathfinder sleeves should i buy NOW for beyond MM products?

Well, there's been roughly 1200 cards in each set and 110 per class deck. I doubt that changes any time soon. Add a few packs for replacements and you'll be fine for now. I'd wait to plan for another set that's probably more than a year away, but that's just me.

Adventure Card Game Designer

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Calthaer wrote:

Since we're on the topic of aquatic creatures, I have to admit that there is really only one question I want answered before the sets release:

How many BUNYIP cards can we expect in both Mummy's Mask and the set after MM?

Assuming the answer isn't zero, then it's probably many thousands.

Adventure Card Game Designer

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Axoq wrote:

Was anyone stabbed with an icicle?

Are the "victims" just goldfish flopping around on the floor?

Probably just looking for some Albatross Soup.


Parody wrote:
NyteJKL wrote:
When/where was this announced?

They're shown as Out of Print on the UltraPro website; since Paizo orders them from UltraPro directly Paizo's system has marked them as discontinued. (I don't think there was any real "announcement", just a consequence of inventory systems, but I'm sure someone else will have the right link if I'm wrong. :)

Whether they remain out of print or not is a question for UltraPro, one that may not be answered until they get low on inventory. (You can still order them from both websites, after all.)

Myfly wrote:
So the question for Tanis is, how many more Pathfinder sleeves should i buy NOW for beyond MM products?

Well, there's been roughly 1200 cards in each set and 110 per class deck. I doubt that changes any time soon. Add a few packs for replacements and you'll be fine for now. I'd wait to plan for another set that's probably more than a year away, but that's just me.

Thanks Parody for the info. I currently have 22 packs for MM giving me 1100 since 100-150 of the 1200 are double sided cards. Will need to get a couple for this month's class deck and ones planned after that.


@Selinker-san

Will the Pathfinder sleeves from Ultra Pro be available again in the near future?

Or do you have to buy as much sleeves as you can right now?

How many more sets will be released? And how many more class decks?

I started sleeving with the Pathfinder sleeves and I would like to keep my whole collection in one sleeve format... Please help, Mike.

The other Mike from the other continent.

Grand Lodge

Myfly wrote:

@Selinker-san

Will the Pathfinder sleeves from Ultra Pro be available again in the near future?

Or do you have to buy as much sleeves as you can right now?

How many more sets will be released? And how many more class decks?

I started sleeving with the Pathfinder sleeves and I would like to keep my whole collection in one sleeve format... Please help, Mike.

The other Mike from the other continent.

The Ultra Pro sleeves are no longer in print. When Ultra Pro marks them this way, they are a discontinued product. This would not be a Paizo or Lone Shark decision, this is an Ultra Pro decision.

PS-This stuff doesn't really make it to Mike S's desk ... this is a Paizo partnership with Ultra Pro.


Theryon Stormrune wrote:
Myfly wrote:

@Selinker-san

Will the Pathfinder sleeves from Ultra Pro be available again in the near future?

Or do you have to buy as much sleeves as you can right now?

How many more sets will be released? And how many more class decks?

I started sleeving with the Pathfinder sleeves and I would like to keep my whole collection in one sleeve format... Please help, Mike.

The other Mike from the other continent.

The Ultra Pro sleeves are no longer in print. When Ultra Pro marks them this way, they are a discontinued product. This would not be a Paizo or Lone Shark decision, this is an Ultra Pro decision.

PS-This stuff doesn't really make it to Mike S's desk ... this is a Paizo partnership with Ultra Pro.

BUT Mike may now call the "Dragon Shield" sleeve company to produce those sleeves without the silver ultra pro point on the front side to keep the PACG players HAPPY, right?

Grand Lodge

Myfly wrote:
BUT Mike may now call the "Dragon Shield" sleeve company to produce those sleeves without the silver ultra pro point on the front side to keep the PACG players HAPPY, right?

Mike might call Arcane Tinmen (in Germany) and still can't do anything. You need someone from Paizo to work out the deal. That's the point I was making. Mike isn't a Paizo employee. Also, I'm pretty sure that Dragon Shields don't come in foil prints like Ultra Pro. A company that could produce something like this would be Legion Supplies.

Besides, there are plenty of sleeves out there that will work for you. But if you are wanting the Ultra Pro sleeves, getting another company to make similar sleeves still won't make them interchangeable. There will be a difference in feel and size. That's the way it is. Might as well pick up some sleeves to go.


But what can we expect more from PACG?

How many new cards will be until 2020?

I need to have the original Pathfinder sleeves on hand for sleeving PACG cards...

Theyron, how many sleeves do you keep in your stock for upcoming PACG cards?


Theryon Stormrune wrote:
Myfly wrote:
BUT Mike may now call the "Dragon Shield" sleeve company to produce those sleeves without the silver ultra pro point on the front side to keep the PACG players HAPPY, right?

Mike might call Arcane Tinmen (in Germany) and still can't do anything. You need someone from Paizo to work out the deal. That's the point I was making. Mike isn't a Paizo employee. Also, I'm pretty sure that Dragon Shields don't come in foil prints like Ultra Pro. A company that could produce something like this would be Legion Supplies.

Besides, there are plenty of sleeves out there that will work for you. But if you are wanting the Ultra Pro sleeves, getting another company to make similar sleeves still won't make them interchangeable. There will be a difference in feel and size. That's the way it is. Might as well pick up some sleeves to go.

Mike may put his foot down and say "Loneshark isnt producing anymore PACG sets until the original sleeves are available again. My *preciously* designed cards deserve these sleeves!" Right? He is producing a high-quality card game which needs to be protected from wear.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Regarding the Ultra•PRO sleeves, I was told in February that they were temporarily out of stock in the US, but they had more coming "soon" by way of a container from Europe.

Scarab Sages

Myfly, it will be OK. Turn your frustrations into inspiration...and inspiration into action.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Regarding the Ultra•PRO sleeves, I was told in February that they were temporarily out of stock in the US, but they had more coming "soon" by way of a container from Europe.

Wait, the sleeves are produced in Europe? Or are the non-selling remaining sleeves are all collected again from the small game shops in Europe in a container towards the US?

I have to buy more sleeves before these are gone to the West.


Calthaer wrote:
Myfly, it will be OK. Turn your frustrations into inspiration...and inspiration into action.

For you in the US or for me in Europe? ;-)

Help - all sleeves will soon swim to the West.

Grand Lodge

Myfly wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Regarding the Ultra•PRO sleeves, I was told in February that they were temporarily out of stock in the US, but they had more coming "soon" by way of a container from Europe.

Wait, the sleeves are produced in Europe? Or are the non-selling remaining sleeves are all collected again from the small game shops in Europe in a container towards the US?

I have to buy more sleeves before these are gone to the West.

Ultra Pro sleeves are made in China. They are distributed to the US and Europe (mostly). US distribution is running very low which is why they are redistributing Europe's warehouse to the US.


Theryon Stormrune wrote:
Myfly wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Regarding the Ultra•PRO sleeves, I was told in February that they were temporarily out of stock in the US, but they had more coming "soon" by way of a container from Europe.

Wait, the sleeves are produced in Europe? Or are the non-selling remaining sleeves are all collected again from the small game shops in Europe in a container towards the US?

I have to buy more sleeves before these are gone to the West.

Ultra Pro sleeves are made in China. They are distributed to the US and Europe (mostly). US distribution is running very low which is why they are redistributing Europe's warehouse to the US.

Completely or partially?

Grand Lodge

Partially.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

What Theryon said. (This isn't just a PACG sleeve issue—they're redistributing other inventories too.)


Crimson Throne seems like a good guess for the next PACG set after Mummy's Mask (although I won't rule out Carrion Crown given the fan interest.) There will be a lot of sweet artwork commissioned for the hardback that can be re-used for the Adventure Card Game.

Did I mention lots of blog posts with artwork increases my interest in working on Adventure Guides? Just saying....

Sovereign Court

Other than Reign of Winter which wins my vote by far, I'd love to see Kingmaker. I know nothing about the plot, but I want to see how they implement the various mechanics.


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Kingmaker is the only one I don't want to see; from what little I know of it the AP is a giant sandbox and while it has a plot, it isn't in the foreground and driving things forward all that much. I simply don't see something like that translating well to the ACG, checking off boxes on a Kingdom card just doesn't draw my attention (been there done that with the Fleet and Redemption cards and those didn't interest me all that much either), and the rest of the mechanics are geared towards exploration/combat, not downtime/kingdom building.

Of course, I could be horribly wrong and Mike & Co come up with something amazing for the kingdom building or that the AP itself is nothing like what I assume it is, but right now I'm not feeling it.

Can I put in a vote for Strange Aeons to be next (or rather the next after the next, since presumably the one after MM is already in the works and SA is kinda sorta not out yet)? If no, RoW and CotCT are both solid, and Jade Regent and Iron Gods also both look promising.


Carrion Crown or Jade Regent would get me very excited.

Anyone started speculating what characters we might see in MM?


Need an AP with a strong dungeons and dragons feeling. So I would delay RoWinter or SAeons (especially since nobody really fully played that last one yet).
CCrown may do, Kingmaker certainly does.

For old timers like me, I would vote for some of the first ones like CCThrone, CoThieves or SDarkness maybe.

Grand Lodge

Googam wrote:
Anyone started speculating what characters we might see in MM?

Almost definitely Quinn and Zadim, I'd guess. We've got owner-cards for Kess, Hakon, Reiko and Hayato but no characters with whom to pair them. Of the Iconics we've already seen, maybe Sajan and Alahazra?

Grand Lodge

Googam wrote:
Anyone started speculating what characters we might see in MM?

I'd think we might see some from Occult Adventures because of the background of MM.

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As far as what's next, I'm not interested in Kingmaker either. Having played part of the AP, I'm not excited to see the mechanics translated to the ACG. I'd like to see Council of Thieves, Jade Regent, or Curse of the Crimson Throne next.


From yesterday's blog, we know Mummy's Mask isn't a September product.


Is that a full list, or is that just some of the things scheduled for September?


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Looks like a full list of paizo's first party products to me. It doesn't seem to include licensed products like Tales, Battles, and Comics. I expect MM's release date to be announced at PaizoCon at the latest.


Hawkmoon269 wrote:
From yesterday's blog, we know Mummy's Mask isn't a September product.

Oh no, it will be 2017 then... :-(


Good choise. There still Are a lot of pathfinder boxes in the Local game store and season of Runelords just started. Summer 2017 may be good timing economically, or even later.


Hannibal_pjv wrote:

Summer 2017 may be good timing economically, or even later.

I'd be inconsolable if that were the case. Hot, salty tears of woe pouring down my ruddy cheeks.

It'd be like a video for a Kate Bush song. Except I wouldn't be wearing a leotard.

Grand Lodge

I'm sure it will be announced at PaizoCon. I am hoping NOT in 2017 and still in 2016. (I want to play it!)


Well, all that announcement means is it isn't September. It could still be October.


Ofcourse we want to play it, but if game stores are not ready to have the next box, it is better to delay. But that is something that Obsidian staff only know.
I can only tell what I can see in Local Gaming stores and They really need to clear shelves From older stuff untill next release...

I personally am really looking for Mummy! The oriental theme of Jade empire is the only one that I Expect even more.

Well maybe Hells wengeance is at the top, but that is completely different matter... ;-)


I've got my fingers crossed for October because of Halloween! :D

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