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Hitdice wrote:
How did this turn into an Iron Man 3 thread? BY THE EYE OF AGAMOTTO!!

Well, you see, when a long-time comic book fan and a thread about one of his favorite character's forthcoming movie love each other very much......

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The doctor will see you now.

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It's weird he almost looks... too much like the comic book. It'd hard to explain.

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It's a good thing


So I take it Captain America: Civil War is when we will get some movie previews for this one.

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Saw another pic somewhere of the Doctor and what's-his-face as Mordo. Really looking forward to this flick.

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Here you go. More pics, including of Mads Mikkelsen.


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Misroi wrote:
I still wish the Eye of Agamatto was the Reality gem, and that's how Stephen's able to perform "magic."

So you want his corpse piled on top of Vision's at the beginning of Infinity War ?


MMCJawa wrote:
Post Marvel phase one, you are just not going to see an unknown cast as a major character, unless its a property where the main characters are children or young teens.

Chris Pratt may not have been a complete unknown, but he was hardly the first person that would have sprung to mind when you mentioned "comic book hero". He was just that goofy dumb guy from Parks & Rec prior to GotG.


Freehold DM wrote:
Excalibur. One of the weirdest super hero teams ever.

I loved early Excalibur. Then again, Kitty Pryde has always been one of my favorite comic characters, so back then, where she went, I followed.

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Norman Osborne wrote:
Misroi wrote:
I still wish the Eye of Agamatto was the Reality gem, and that's how Stephen's able to perform "magic."
So you want his corpse piled on top of Vision's at the beginning of Infinity War ?

Oh please no, I don't want the eye of Agamatto to have ANYTHING with the infinity gems.

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Dragon78 wrote:
So I take it Captain America: Civil War is when we will get some movie previews for this one.

I don't think we will get a trailer. But I think we will get a cameo in the movie. most likely a post credit scene.

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Norman Osborne wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Excalibur. One of the weirdest super hero teams ever.
I loved early Excalibur. Then again, Kitty Pryde has always been one of my favorite comic characters, so back then, where she went, I followed.

Same here. I recall one of my favorite storylines in Excaliber was when they did a (West Coast) Avengers team up and went to Limbo with Dr. Doom.

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Norman Osborne wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Excalibur. One of the weirdest super hero teams ever.
I loved early Excalibur. Then again, Kitty Pryde has always been one of my favorite comic characters, so back then, where she went, I followed.

Ditto, only substitute Nightcrawler for Kitty for 'one of my favorite comic characters.' I love that he got to buckle his swash in Excalibur, and had more serious storylines (and was taken more seriously!) than he had in the previous X-books (where he, IMO, kind of got lost / overshadowed among all the larger than life personalities like Cyclops, Storm and Wolverine).

As for the reality gem / Eye of Agamotto notion, I suspect they'll go that route, which does mean that Thanos will have to get his hot little hands on it (and Vision's head-jewel / mind stone as well). Presumably he'll do so without irreparably destroying the Vision, and Strange will find a way to survive their brief encounter as well (perhaps by fleeing into another dimension or jettisoning his astral form until his body can be healed / repaired or something).


I used to be a big Nightcrawler fan, back when he was a fun-loving swashbuckling fuzzy fun guy. But then they turned him into a dour zealot. Much less a fan.


Norman Osborne wrote:
I used to be a big Nightcrawler fan, back when he was a fun-loving swashbuckling fuzzy fun guy. But then they turned him into a dour zealot. Much less a fan.

He was a fun-loving swashbuckling fuzzy fun guy in his last series. Before he died again.

I missed the dour zealot stage. He's always been religious, but not dour or a zealot, in anything I've seen.


Set wrote:


As for the reality gem / Eye of Agamotto notion, I suspect they'll go that route, which does mean that Thanos will have to get his hot little hands on it (and Vision's head-jewel / mind stone as well). Presumably he'll do so without irreparably destroying the Vision, and Strange will find a way to survive their brief encounter as well (perhaps by fleeing into another dimension or jettisoning his astral form until his body can be healed / repaired or something).

Possible. I'm not even utterly opposed to the Eye being a Gem, as long as Strange is actually a sorcerer not just using the Gem to perform "magic".

As I understand it though, the Aether was the Reality Stone. The two missing ones are the Soul and Time gems.

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thejeff wrote:
Possible. I'm not even utterly opposed to the Eye being a Gem, as long as Strange is actually a sorcerer not just using the Gem to perform "magic".

I'm somewhat pessimistically expecting a Dumbo/magic feather situation, where Strange starts out thinking that the Eye is the source of the power and later comes to grips with the deeper truth that the Eye opens the wielder up to the power (opening up his own 'third eye?'), and stops being important to them as anything but a focus for concentration or amplifier after that point (sort of like how the mind stone awakened powers in Pietro and Wanda, but wasn't particularly important to them afterwards).

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As I understand it though, the Aether was the Reality Stone. The two missing ones are the Soul and Time gems.

I never could keep them straight, and their powers seem to be 'whatever we want them to do' anyway. (Hydra were using the 'mind stone' to power blue beam energy weapons, just like it was the Cube in the First Avenger, until it got plucked out of the blue gem it was in and turned yellow...)

Eh. I'm not a huge fan of this whole infinity stone/Thanos build up anyway. It feels like connective tissue to me, and I'm more into the meat of the tale (which I see as character development).


I am unbelievably hyped for this film.


thejeff wrote:
Norman Osborne wrote:
I used to be a big Nightcrawler fan, back when he was a fun-loving swashbuckling fuzzy fun guy. But then they turned him into a dour zealot. Much less a fan.

He was a fun-loving swashbuckling fuzzy fun guy in his last series. Before he died again.

I missed the dour zealot stage. He's always been religious, but not dour or a zealot, in anything I've seen.

Bleh...is he dead again?

I wonder how life insurance works for members of the X-Men....are they just ineligible? Do they have to pay it all back if/when they come back to life?

Anyhow, the dour zealot is really more of a reference to his movie incarnation...I haven't kept track of the comic version in quite a long time.

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Norman Osborne wrote:
Bleh...is he dead again?

I think he's alive, at the moment, although he may be a soulless bag of demon maggots disguised as a person...

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I wonder how life insurance works for members of the X-Men....are they just ineligible? Do they have to pay it all back if/when they come back to life?

One of my favorite meta moments was when Siryn (Theresa Cassidy) was informed of the death of her father (Banshee, of the X-Men). She cracked up and said 'Whatever. It won't last. Call me when he comes back.'


Set wrote:
One of my favorite meta moments was when Siryn (Theresa Cassidy) was informed of the death of her father (Banshee, of the X-Men). She cracked up and said 'Whatever. It won't last. Call me when he comes back.'

I don't remember that (and it's very possible that I never saw it.) But I vaguely remember in the pages of The Incredible Hulk when the Hulk got killed in action, and a bunch of members of SHIELD, in their headquarters, were watching a live video of the battle. The Hulk's wife Betty was with them, and when everyone saw the Hulk die, all eyes turned to Betty. How would she react? For a moment, she looked shocked. Then, to everyone's surprise, she started laughing. Nick Fury muttered something like "Denial is an ugly thing."

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Norman Osborne wrote:
I wonder how life insurance works for members of the X-Men....are they just ineligible? Do they have to pay it all back if/when they come back to life?

I imagine it's more like the reverse of a death pool.

You pay your money, specify the how and when, and if you're right you get paid.

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First trailer Tuesday night on Kimmel

Looking forward to seeing it.


I am eager to see how the MCU handles magic. I really don't care about Dr Strange. BUT I will watch the movie because how can I not?


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I hope it is an actual trailer and not some little teaser.


Indeed

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Can't wait.


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Aaron Bitman wrote:
Set wrote:
One of my favorite meta moments was when Siryn (Theresa Cassidy) was informed of the death of her father (Banshee, of the X-Men). She cracked up and said 'Whatever. It won't last. Call me when he comes back.'

I don't remember that (and it's very possible that I never saw it.) But I vaguely remember in the pages of The Incredible Hulk when the Hulk got killed in action, and a bunch of members of SHIELD, in their headquarters, were watching a live video of the battle. The Hulk's wife Betty was with them, and when everyone saw the Hulk die, all eyes turned to Betty. How would she react? For a moment, she looked shocked. Then, to everyone's surprise, she started laughing. Nick Fury muttered something like "Denial is an ugly thing."

In Incredible Hulk, there is a point at which Rick Jones' fiancée is murdered, and he goes to all the heroes he knows to see about getting her brought back.

This conversation with Dr. Strange is a good representation of 'death' in comics


oh wow

that trailer was AWESOME


Ramarren wrote:
Aaron Bitman wrote:
Set wrote:
One of my favorite meta moments was when Siryn (Theresa Cassidy) was informed of the death of her father (Banshee, of the X-Men). She cracked up and said 'Whatever. It won't last. Call me when he comes back.'

I don't remember that (and it's very possible that I never saw it.) But I vaguely remember in the pages of The Incredible Hulk when the Hulk got killed in action, and a bunch of members of SHIELD, in their headquarters, were watching a live video of the battle. The Hulk's wife Betty was with them, and when everyone saw the Hulk die, all eyes turned to Betty. How would she react? For a moment, she looked shocked. Then, to everyone's surprise, she started laughing. Nick Fury muttered something like "Denial is an ugly thing."

In Incredible Hulk, there is a point at which Rick Jones' fiancée is murdered, and he goes to all the heroes he knows to see about getting her brought back.

This conversation with Dr. Strange is a good representation of 'death' in comics

As I recall he did get Marlo back to life.

Yet when Spider-man did the same thing looking to save Aunt May, he gets shafted and has to make a deal with the devil.

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The teaser was so-so. But I guess they want to build hype slowly.

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Here is the trailer.

I thought it was good, but I never read any of the comics. Looking forward to this.


Looks rather pretty.


Feels more like a teaser then an actual trailer but still interesting.

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Great trailer, I was pretty meh about this movie but I'm excited to see it now.

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I love the trippy effects on this. More! I want more! And I'm really looking forward to this. Good cast and amazing visual look. Much like BvS was not the DC movie of the year for me (Suicide Squad all the way) I'm actually much more excited for Doctor Strange than Civil War. I am excited for Civil War as well, but Strange is a character I have waited for SO LONG to see on the big screen. Yay!


I like.

They seem to be playing it pretty straight, which is nice.


Anyone else getting a Matrix vibe from that?


Not Matrix, but Inception - yes.

One to look for when it releases.


Looks good. I was a little worried about the actor they picked for Strange but I think it will be fine.

Scarab Sages

I like the trailer.

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I like Cumberbatche's accent in this one.


I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.

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atheral wrote:
I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.

It's more of an origin story for magic in the MCU, which is needed because there has never really been any before. Having an origin for Dr. Strage gives that explanation to the audience to allow them to learn about it with the character.


atheral wrote:
I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.

It does. But it's a cool origin story, that hasn't already been filmed a dozen times, so I'm fine with it. :)

The "no origins" thing all seems to come from one quote a few years ago, so I'm not sure how solid it is.


Imbicatus wrote:
atheral wrote:
I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.
It's more of an origin story for magic in the MCU, which is needed because there has never really been any before. Having an origin for Dr. Strage gives that explanation to the audience to allow them to learn about it with the character.

Other than mythical spellcasting gods, you mean.

There's definitely a bit of a magitek feel to the MCU Asgard, but Loki is definitely a caster. I think Freya comments on magic in the 2nd Thor movie as well.

I guess there's no "origin" for magic in the MCU, but I doubt that'll change, though we'll probably get a bit more detail/theory.


Wish the music were less generic, but we'll see when the movie is out.


thejeff wrote:
atheral wrote:
I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.

It does. But it's a cool origin story, that hasn't already been filmed a dozen times, so I'm fine with it. :)

The "no origins" thing all seems to come from one quote a few years ago, so I'm not sure how solid it is.

I'm not even sure that "no origins" thing is even accurate for introducing new characters. I thought that Feige was talking SPECIFICALLY about a new Spider-Man movie because we've seen his origin story more than a few times.

Even the average person kinda knows Spider-Man's origin. Not many know of Doctor Strange, Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel) or T'Challa (Black Panther).


ShinHakkaider wrote:
thejeff wrote:
atheral wrote:
I'm looking forward to this one, but I thought the studio said they weren't going to do origin stories anymore...this trailer looks an awful lot like an origin story.

It does. But it's a cool origin story, that hasn't already been filmed a dozen times, so I'm fine with it. :)

The "no origins" thing all seems to come from one quote a few years ago, so I'm not sure how solid it is.

I'm not even sure that "no origins" thing is even accurate for introducing new characters. I thought that Feige was talking SPECIFICALLY about a new Spider-Man movie because we've seen his origin story more than a few times.

Even the average person kinda knows Spider-Man's origin. Not many know of Doctor Strange, Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel) or T'Challa (Black Panther).

As I said, I'm not sure how solid the "no origins" thing is at all.

The ones I saw did seem to apply to Doctor Strange, but they were a couple years old and the script may well have been drastically revised again since then.
T'Challa's showing up in Civil War, so it doesn't look like he's getting an origin movie. Unless they do his movie as an "origin" after his first appearance. I'm sure it'll have more background one way or another.

I'm actually very curious what they'll do with Captain Marvel. They can't very well use her comics origin - since it spans decades and would require at least a movie focused on Mar-Vell. Unless they just allude to it in passing, which would be weird.

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