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Just saw it, and my childhood is ruined by the revelation that I've been pronouncing 'Agamotto' wrong for forty years.
(Just kidding. My childhood's immune to ruination, until someone invents time travel, but I really did think it was pronounced Ahgahmahto, not Ahgahmoetoe!)
Saw it in 3D, which I normally despise, but I was willing to give it a shot, and whoa, I'm pretty sure that was an experience that would only have been enhanced by medical marijuana... Cool stuff. Like that first Star Trek movie, which I alone on planet earth enjoyed, or the one where William Hurt eats shrooms and devolves into an amoeba (or whatever, I was not terribly clear on that movie...).
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I also was a big bugged by the immediate transition from student learning as fast as possible to fighting off the main bad guy and cult. I think having him fight some lesser mystical threat first as a training mission or something would have worked better showing his progression from zero to hero, not to mention allowed a bit more cool magic lore to slip into the MCU.
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Excellent movie. Made me happy, especially the fact that, y'know, it's all actually magic, not some sort of cop-out. That was nice.
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Saw it in 3D, which I normally despise, but I was willing to give it a shot, and whoa, I'm pretty sure that was an experience that would only have been enhanced by medical marijuana...
Yeah, I saw it the second time on Thursday in 3D at the Imax. I think it added to the movie, but not so much that you'd miss it in plain, old 2D.
Plus, the Imax theater had the giant, plastic Doctor Strange cups.
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I also was a big bugged by the immediate transition from student learning as fast as possible to fighting off the main bad guy and cult. I think having him fight some lesser mystical threat first as a training mission or something would have worked better showing his progression from zero to hero, not to mention allowed a bit more cool magic lore to slip into the MCU.
It's always better to learn when you're thrown on the pile! :)
Something that didn't really translate well, I think, was the amount of time that passed since his car accident: correct me if I'm wrong but I got the impression he was in that monastery for months if not two years... (by the way his old girlfriend reacted when she next saw him...)
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I also was a big bugged by the immediate transition from student learning as fast as possible to fighting off the main bad guy and cult.Something that didn't really translate well, I think, was the amount of time that passed since his car accident: correct me if I'm wrong but I got the impression he was in that monastery for months if not two years... (by the way his old girlfriend reacted when she next saw him...)
I think a simple 'You've been gone for two years!' from Doctor Girlfriend would have made that whole transition from 'can't reliably create a shield' to 'fight off Kaecilius and two Spoiler-powered-up acolytes' a tiny bit more plausible.
I was a little puzzled that they glossed over that relatively simple fix for what did seem a bit inconsistent.
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I still loved that movie. Cumberbatch is such an amazing actor that the movie couldn't fail. The whole movie I was wondering why Mordo was so nice... the end of the movie brought me satisfaction! :)
In other news: Doctor Strange is Cayden Cailean! Asgardians love him! :)
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Purple,
Some how I'm not surprised but I did wish Asgardians were actual divinities. Maybe once Thanos remakes the MCU and they have to put it back together, they'll fix that point.
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I don't want Asgardians as divinities. A divinity can end existence by snapping fingers. Asgardians have high density bodies that are immune to radiation and cold. Canon marvel comics history doesn't show them as omnipotent and all powerful when they play with others (they're only all powerful in the pages of the Thor comic when the writers experience a lack of originality and inspiration)
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I also was a big bugged by the immediate transition from student learning as fast as possible to fighting off the main bad guy and cult. I think having him fight some lesser mystical threat first as a training mission or something would have worked better showing his progression from zero to hero, not to mention allowed a bit more cool magic lore to slip into the MCU.It's always better to learn when you're thrown on the pile! :)
Something that didn't really translate well, I think, was the amount of time that passed since his car accident: correct me if I'm wrong but I got the impression he was in that monastery for months if not two years... (by the way his old girlfriend reacted when she next saw him...)
No. That bit followed logically. I mean, they broke up (with him being an ass) and then he emailed her regularly trying to apologize for the entire time he was studying. So it's not like they'd actually been out of contact.
One of his first question was whether she'd gotten all his e-mails, remember?
I've certainly not seen friends in years, but not fallen out of contact with them entirely, and thus known they were fine. It happens, and reunions are usually pretty drama-free.
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DMW: true. Although the exact amount of training was unclear, one could say he's been at it for a while... and his high speed of reading and reckless nighttime experiments probably made it possible faster than the other dudes who have probably been at it for a very long time (i.e. Mordo and Wong)
Yeah, they specifically mentioned he was a natural and learning really fast. And he still didn't demonstrate being more skilled than either Mordo or Wong...just more inventive and better armed.
Thats Mister doctor to you and come on it has to be the time gem.
A divinity can end existence by snapping fingers.Based on what definition?
don't be snippy were having fun here :P
I liked it well enough... even if Strange starts out as Movie Tony Stark Mk II.
Glad to see the horizons of the cinematic universe broadened.
well They did have quite a few similarities in the comics too. I think when we are talking about a superhero whose known for his intellect pompous often goes hand and hand. I mean Mr. fantastic... the name alone....
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don't be snippy were having fun here :PA divinity can end existence by snapping fingers.Based on what definition?
Eh. It's a valid distinction. The actual, mythological, Norse Gods are actually only of a slightly higher power level as those in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in some ways. Heck, they need to eat magic apples to stay immortal or they age and die like everyone else.
The only real difference in many ways is that the mythological deities actually have access to, and control of, the afterlife, are more overtly magical/able to effect things at a distance, and more inclined to 'mythic' deeds (ie: creating worlds, being responsible for celestial bodies, etc.).
None of which is to deny their divinity, mind you. I'm a pretty serious Pagan in real life, and have even cast an occasional prayer Thor's way, but in most faiths featuring hard polytheism (ie: each God really being a discrete entity, not all just aspects of one or two deities), Gods are very much finite and certainly cannot 'end existence by snapping their fingers' and are not omnipresent. Both of those as prerequisites for divinity are pretty specific to monotheistic religions (or soft polytheism in some cases), not the actual way most pagan religions actually viewed (or view) the world.
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is it not supposed to be?Not in the comics.
I don't really mind it being one - seems an obvious connection to make.
I'm happy they didn't do what someone suggested back in the early rumours phase and make it the source of Strange's magic, rather than just one powerful tool.
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That's kind of what I'm hoping, as well. Although I am glad that the X is the Y, because that means he won't be holding onto
Excellent movie. Made me happy, especially the fact that, y'know, it's all actually magic, not some sort of cop-out. That was nice.
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It was pretty good. I do think they went overboard in substituting martial arts for magic, but can understand why they did so. Still, it seemed missing some elements when the chanting and wacky phrases is just replaced by whipping a cgi light about.
Dormammu's realm was a bit... eh. Giant molecules with weird lighting effects don't do much for me. But for an origin movie, it flowed rather well and the pacing was appropriate. Interesting cast too, except for the villain, who was a bit on the boring side (and lacking sane motivation).
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It was pretty good. I do think they went overboard in substituting martial arts for magic, but can understand why they did so. Still, it seemed missing some elements when the chanting and wacky phrases is just replaced by whipping a cgi light about.
I was really looking forward to seeing some of the classic invocations, like Crimson Bands of Cytorrak/Winds of Watoomb/Shields of the Seraphim/Vapors of Valtor/Images of Ikonn/Flames of the Faltines/etc. The magic light-whips were kind of bland, by comparison.
No Mindless Ones.
Curses.
Dormammu's realm was a bit... eh. Giant molecules with weird lighting effects don't do much for me.
It looked biological to me - magnified views of cells. I wondered if the dark dimension was supposed to be Dormammu's body. No, I haven't read the comics.
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No Mindless Ones.
Curses.
At least, not until......
Anyway, some folks are theorizing that what Kaecilius thought was immortality was Dormammu turning them into internal Mindless Ones.
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I was really looking forward to seeing some of the classic invocations, like Crimson Bands of Cytorrak/Winds of Watoomb/Shields of the Seraphim/Vapors of Valtor/Images of Ikonn/Flames of the Faltines/etc. The magic light-whips were kind of bland, by comparison.
Indeed. I would have liked to seen more of that as well.
It was pretty good. I do think they went overboard in substituting martial arts for magic, but can understand why they did so.Excellent movie. Made me happy, especially the fact that, y'know, it's all actually magic, not some sort of cop-out. That was nice.
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as a mass the ascension fan and a martial artist myself, this is probably what I will enjoy the most about the film.
That said, I always wanted to see the classic spells bandied about....
No Mindless Ones.
Curses.
At least, not until......
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Ehhhhh.... Dormammu is the force holding the Mindless Ones at bay, explaining why Doctor Strange never gets to just kill him, something he has been in a position to do more than once.
All I know is now apparently Inhumans aren't on the docket!
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Ehhhhh.... Dormammu is the force holding the Mindless Ones at bay, explaining why Doctor Strange never gets to just kill him, something he has been in a position to do more than once.No Mindless Ones.
Curses.
At least, not until......
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True, but it seems for the cinematic universe they might be going in a slightly different direction. That's the theory, at least.
He didn't name himself that.well They did have quite a few similarities in the comics too. I think when we are talking about a superhero whose known for his intellect pompous often goes hand and hand. I mean Mr. fantastic... the name alone....
Depends on which comic series were talking about unless you mean The person who came up with him named them then yes fair.
Vid,
We're all assuming it will be the Ultimate FF, but who knows...
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Took the whole family to see this one (for those who do not know, my wife and I have 5 boys--ages 7-19) and every one of us absolutely loved it! It was so much better than I had hoped. We want to see it again before it leaves the theaters and that doesn't happen often with us.
I found his learning curve entirely believable due to two things: His innate creativity and photographic memory. I also got the impression that his disappearance was not mere months...
** spoiler omitted **Yup, and it was neat how the reference wasn't just a random Easter egg, but provided insight to exactly what sort of person Dr. Strange was, unwilling to go anywhere near a case that might 'wreck his perfect record.'
That reference also causes timeline problems since it is basically at the start of the movie, which appears to happen over at least months more likely a couple of years.
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Considering HYDRA was keeping an eye on Strange as of Winter Soldier... yeah, not sure the timeline untangles easily.
Unless, of course, it wasn't War Machine, but Justin Hammer's botched efforts from Iron Man 2...
Considering HYDRA was keeping an eye on Strange as of Winter Soldier... yeah, not sure the timeline untangles easily.
Unless, of course, it wasn't War Machine, but Justin Hammer's botched efforts from Iron Man 2...
That would actually make a lot of sense if it was hammer's screw up. The timeline would make much more sense.
Considering HYDRA was keeping an eye on Strange as of Winter Soldier... yeah, not sure the timeline untangles easily.
Unless, of course, it wasn't War Machine, but Justin Hammer's botched efforts from Iron Man 2...
Yes, but he was also a famous doctor at that time, so he still had reason to be on their list of influential people. That wasn't a list of superheros.
Right it was predictive of influential and potentially dangerous persons of interest. His talents would have been invaluable for an agency like Hydra.