
Myfly |

Myfly wrote:Text is in OCGTN freely available, but the images need to be scanned by everybody.Whoa whoa, the text is NOT freely available in OCTGN! If people are using OCTGN to get the text of the cards free, I'm going to have to remove the powers text from the cards database, end of discussion. The only reason the powers text is there at all is for testing purposes, and the text is masked in the game. If you're unmasking the text to get access to it, then you're doing something you're not meant to do, and I'll be forced to rectify the situation.
PM me to discuss this more, but you writing this makes me want to go in and delete all the power text because obviously SOMEONE is taking advantage of the system.
I was thinking about to play PACG during night-baby-sitting and there was OCGTN a possible choice. I just read about it online somewhere in the web and stopped considering it as the text said you have to scan all 1300 cards. So i thought the text is already available and just the images need to be scanned. I never came closer than this to it as scanning 1300 images is to much time consuming in my current situation. Sorry if I misunderstood sth.

Zaister |
A collectors edition for RotR with all
- erratas included, so final version
- signitures of artist printed on every card
- card numbering
- all promo cards are in foil
Not a bad idea in general, but I hate foil cards. They are just plain ugly and have no place in a game like this. Maybe the card could get a differently-colored border, maybe even gold. But not the whole card.
I don't care for signatures on cards either, there is no room on the cards for them, and I wouldn't want them to obscure the artwork.
limited print-run, so 2000 copies only
- special game box (e.g. Wooden box, similar to Acropifa exclusive book) with the metal runelords symbol on it (like the special RPG RotR book).
- of course special price tag.
- season of the runelords included as hardcover book.Optional
- include a special dice set where the number one on all dice is the Pathfinder letter "P"
these are all ok, but a softcover of the OP scenarios would be ok too. It would be great to have any special cards for the OP scenarios in the box too.
Regarding the dice, this would be a good opportunity to pack the Q-Workshop Runelords dice. Maybe we can even find a use for the d20 in the OP scenarios...
This might indeed be a product for the 5-year anniversary of PACG.

Keith Richmond Pathfinder ACG Developer |

Theryon Stormrune wrote:I wonder if you think that pushing back MM gives Paizo and Lone Shark nothing to do. It gives them a breath, if that.If that.
But, boss, you said if my stuff was on time this week I got to breathe.
On the plus side, turning blue has made being a smurf for halloween a cinch.

skizzerz |

With card numbering, the only way that would be feasible is to make every copy of the same card have the same number. Otherwise you're asking for the maintenance nightmare of having over 100 different templates for Blessing of the Gods, and if that suddenly needs to have the wording tweaked... I don't envy the person doing that.
With each copy of the card having the same numbering, it would not be useful for determining if you're missing out any cards from your box. Really the only practical point of it at that juncture is that you can use it as a static identifier for a card in case you need to look it up across translations and it has different art or something.
Overall not exactly worthwhile enough to implement for all the overhead involved in implementing it.
In unrelated news, I see Keith discovered the forum feature that changes your avatar if your post contains a certain word in it ;)

Myfly |

Mike Selinker wrote:Theryon Stormrune wrote:I wonder if you think that pushing back MM gives Paizo and Lone Shark nothing to do. It gives them a breath, if that.If that.But, boss, you said if my stuff was on time this week I got to breathe.
On the plus side, turning blue has made being a smurf for halloween a cinch.
If i will get off from twin duties on saturday, then I will watch the movie "Witch hunter" on halloween. Lets hunt some witches :-D very thematic on that particular day.
@keith: you are just lucky being a smurf on that day. Hopefully, you dont meet a cat on halloween - otherwise Mike is going to hold his breath even much longer with one employee less.
Best
Keith's boss smurf with the red hat

Myfly |

With card numbering, the only way that would be feasible is to make every copy of the same card have the same number. Otherwise you're asking for the maintenance nightmare of having over 100 different templates for Blessing of the Gods, and if that suddenly needs to have the wording tweaked... I don't envy the person doing that.
Nowadays, they dont have to write the counter/numbers manually with a pen on the cards.
In case of the 40 Blessings of the Gods, you change the card text on the master card. The counter (if well implemented by an IT expert) will by added via postprocessor.So you have a card pool of master cards, which is sorted like the mixture of a excel tabular and a LaTeX document (postprocessor). Ask an IT expert....
The implementation of a Counter is no problem today. As I said 15minutes for an IT expert on a given card pool.
---> simple and Lightning-fast completeness checking on an adventure deck, no pdf-card-lists required anymore
---> in case a card is missing, just call Sharaya for replacement and tell her the card number. That is it. No spelling of difficult card names letter-by-letter. No charlie-echo etc. required anymore.
===> happy PACG buyers and happy Sharaya. Win-win situation!
Ps: <Spelling requires a lot if time, so card numbers will let Sharaya breath again :-)>

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And in exchange, every card I own gets an ugly addition to card.
I highly doubt cards need to be spelled out as it is. You're assuming imaginary problems exist and are saying this "fix" must be implemented to resolve them, and as usual assuming that it results in a "win-win situation" when most would probably disagree.

Myfly |

And in exchange, every card I own gets an ugly addition to card.
I highly doubt cards need to be spelled out as it is. You're assuming imaginary problems exist and are saying this "fix" must be implemented to resolve them, and as usual assuming that it results in a "win-win situation" when most would probably disagree.
Skizzerz said the only way feasible....
I replied to his feasibility topic.It is feasible...
@andrew
The only questions you have to answer are:
1) Do you want to download the card list (if it is available on time with the adv deck on hand) for every adventure deck? And every class deck?
2) Do you want to check all cards versus the pdf-card-list?
3) Does paizo want to create those pdf-card-lists for all the upcoming years, in case there is a less time consuming solution on hand?
4) Checking a counter in 110 cards requires 1 minute max, using the pdf-card-list 15 minutes (search, download, print, check)? So PACG buyer spend far more than one hour on checking the complete path (i did it) where it could have been only less than 6 minutes... Do you have enough flat spare time for a silly card checking action? I would like to spend this time more likely for playing the game!
5) In case a card is missing, a number is more simple to communicate?
6) Sharaya finds the replacement card when numbered much faster - i will bet any value on that!
All these 6 improvements stand against your 1 ugly addition feeling. The decision is up to Paizo in the end.
For ME, I want to spend more time playing and not checking the completeness.
And please let Sharaya breathe again. May be I could also help Keith and Mike as well on that :-)
Learn to BREATHE again.

Myfly |

IX) Get the 7 new class decks released till May 2016 and either take the
Skull&Shackles or the Runelords path AND mix those Class decks into the card sets AND
NOW play this new fan-based adventure path found at
http://www.welbybumpus.com
Myfly wrote:This really made my day! :-)Vic Wertz wrote:Season of a Runelord?Ron Lundeen is a nice guy providing extra material for PACG Players for free.
So how about honouring him with
- Season of the Ronlord?
Or
- Season of the Ronlund? (Switching just "o" and "u" based on Vics proposal)What do you think?
Check
http://www.welbybumpus.com
Is awesome PREMIUM :-DPS: thats how my idea generation works ...

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@andrew
The only questions you have to answer are:
1) Do you want to download the card list (if it is available on time with the adv deck on hand) for every adventure deck? And every class deck?
No, but like I said, you don't add more to a card when the primary purpose of that addition (finding missing cards) shouldn't be necessary in the first place. You don't add function that exists primarily to fix mistakes
2) Do you want to check all cards versus the pdf-card-list?
Like I'd have to do anyways in case of number misprints or errors?
3) Does paizo want to create those pdf-card-lists for all the upcoming years, in case there is a less time consuming solution on hand?
Do you really think they wouldn't still have an internal list and card count? This wouldn't stop them from having an inventory list of what cards are in which packs in which quantities. Even if they didn't, making the list takes less time than you assume it would take to add your numbering system.
4) Checking a counter in 110 cards requires 1 minute max, using the pdf-card-list 15 minutes (search, download, print, check)? So PACG buyer spend far more than one hour on checking the complete path (i did it) where it could have been only less than 6 minutes... Do you have enough flat spare time for a silly card checking action? I would like to spend this time more likely for playing the game!
If you can't spare one or two hours total over the period of six months, gaming probably isn't the right hobby for your schedule. Heck, even for someone who buys it all at once, it's one hour. A fraction of the time spent playing through it all. I'll take a slight addition of time over an unsightly addition to every card any day.
5) In case a card is missing, a number is more simple to communicate?
Again, manufacturing problems are not something you fix by printing more on the product. The box or an insert, maybe (maybe, probably not), but never the cards.
6) Sharaya finds the replacement card when numbered much faster - i will bet any value on that!
You could probably count on hand how many minutes would be saved over an entire year organizing by number instead of alphabetically.
All these 6 improvements stand against your 1 ugly addition feeling. The decision is up to Paizo in the end.
For ME, I want to spend more time playing and not checking the completeness.
And please let Sharaya breathe again. May be I could also help Keith and Mike as well on that :-)
Calling them improvements does not make them so. It's a change that has virtually zero noticeable benefit (you've stated your opinion, but haven't logically given any explanation to back it up) and at least one noticeable drawback. The difference is, your perceived benefits would not be recognized by the vast majority of buyers. How many buyers do you think care enough to find out if cards are missing? Even less know there's a way to do so. Even less than that actually know how. The number of people who benefit from this is probably outweighed by the number of people who don't want a "Just in case we messed up" note printed on every single card.