What would be the reprocussions of this. It's hard to say because we don't know what else is going to be in ultimate intrigue, probably mostly social stuff but I asked my GM if I could try this out and he said no because it was busy and had a [sarcasm] totaly not batman [/sarcasm] feel to it. Right now I'm trying to see if he'll let me play just the warlock with the whole vigilante main feature just removed.
I'd play any of these four classes individualy, they look bad ass.
I don't think any of that is going to happen. At that rate you might as well play a Slayer, Slayer, Magus, Inquisitor respectively. Plus some of us assume that there's going to be more than just four specializations. Without the vigilante stuff you don't really have a class that can stand on it's own legs.
By the time a playtest document is released, the class itself is set in stone, it's just the abilities/power level/options/etc that get tweaked.
By the time a playtest document is released, the class itself is set in stone, it's just the abilities/power level/options/etc that get tweaked.
That's not ENTIRELY true - if a class is so poorly received, it MAY require a from-the-ground-up redesign, which means there could be a second or third-round playtest.
That being said, I do think the vigilante would work better as 2 separate classes - one Mundane and one Magical/Alchemical.
Each could have four options to it:
For the Mundane Vigilante, there's the Avenger, the Stalker, a scrapper that does Flurry stuff like a Monk, and a Ranged warrior like a Ranger. The Mundane has a full BAB and can use Talents in either the Social or Alternate Personas
For the Magical Vigilante, there's the Warlock, the Zealot, an Alchemical specialization, and a Psychic specialization. The Magical has 3/4 BAB and 6/9 spells. The Magical can only use Cantrips in their Social Persona, or gets a Caster Level of something like 1/4 while in their Social Persona.
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Or:
Combine Avenge and Stalker, add more Warlock stuff, and just delete Zealot.
I suggested making four classes earlier. I think it's a much better idea.
Or:
Combine Avenge and Stalker, add more Warlock stuff, and just delete Zealot.
Yeah, but... then the question becomes "why not play a Slayer or Magus?"
I think part of the problem with Dual Identity is the Social Persona has next to no immediately-relevant abilities, while the Specializations are, as a consequence of having "two identities" are watered-down versions of other classes.
The Social Persona needs to get much more of a focus on things like disguising, lying, sneaking, etc. Think the Master Spy in Base Class form.
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I'd rather Dual Identity act like a universal VMC machine, that gives you muted abilities of another class of your choice.
