Lady Thor

[ShinHakkaider]

A few issues ago (I'm at work so I don't have them in front of me right now...) Odinson comprised a list of possible women that he knew COULD be the new THOR. He eliminated *BLANK* from the list BECAUSE of her illness.

It's all right there in the book.

This is why I have issues with people who are not reading the actual source material spreading what they "hear" as opposed to actually reading what was written.

[Jaelithe]

He did, indeed, cross her off. For some reason, though, I began to think it was her anyway a few issues ago. Not sure why. Never mentioned it, but it was in the back of my mind for a while now.

And insofar as I'm concerned, he's still Thor, and she simply can't be. I don't remotely buy into this "give away your name, as if it's a title" stuff. Aaron's just bein' silly on that point.

I'm also having a problem with the "United Sorority" aspect of the storyline. It's just not believable the way he's conveyed it. It's like he's trying to write to please women, rather just write women, and it comes off more than a little obsequious, as in, "See! I'm a feminist, too! Really!" We got it, Jason.

Still, other aspects are quite enjoyable, and it's definitely readable. I like the lady currently wielding Mjolnir ... and Mjolnir clearly likes her, too.

[phantom1592]

Not a fan of Thor not being called Thor.

Have no problem with New Thor being called Thor. There have been other heroes called 'Thor' before. There probably will be again.

Gets a little tricky when both are running in the same circles, But I have three people called Matt in our group. They REALLY made this into a bigger deal then it should have been.

[KahnyaGnorc]

I have no problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Captain America.
I have no problem if James Rhodes being Iron Man.

I would have a problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Steve.
I would have a problem with James Rhodes being Tony.

Thor is the guy's first name, not a moniker.

[phantom1592]

KahnyaGnorc wrote:

I have no problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Captain America.

I have no problem if James Rhodes being Iron Man.

I would have a problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Steve.
I would have a problem with James Rhodes being Tony.

Thor is the guy's first name, not a moniker.

Tell that to Eric Masterson.

Or even Donald Blake... Way back before he realized he actually WAS Thor and back when he just 'had the power of Thor'...

Even when the real Thor came back Masterson kept the Thor identity for a few issues as a way of 'honoring' Thor... but yeah, he started to feel weird about it once he got the new mace. Hence the change to Thunderstrike.

Point is, it's been done before.

[Jaelithe]

phantom1592 wrote:

KahnyaGnorc wrote:

I have no problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Captain America.

I have no problem if James Rhodes being Iron Man.

I would have a problem with Sam Wilson or Bucky Barnes being Steve.
I would have a problem with James Rhodes being Tony.

Thor is the guy's first name, not a moniker.

Tell that to Eric Masterson.

Or even Donald Blake... Way back before he realized he actually WAS Thor and back when he just 'had the power of Thor'...

Even when the real Thor came back Masterson kept the Thor identity for a few issues as a way of 'honoring' Thor... but yeah, he started to feel weird about it once he got the new mace. Hence the change to Thunderstrike.

Point is, it's been done before.

Thing is, Masterson knew he wasn't Thor. So did Jake Olsen. Blake actually was Thor. (I don't believe Eric called himself Thor once he got the mace, even for a time, because the mace had a little phrase on it, too, that essentially renamed him Thunderstrike.) Our new gal, by contrast, is asserting she is Thor, when she doesn't share a body with him or possess any part of his psyche (that we know of, thus far) and the author's even tried this weak sauce "Thor gives her his name" tactic to legitimize an inane development. It's probably one of the stupidest things a Thor writer has had him say since he told the Hulk, "I could never beat you, you know." No well-written version of Thor thinks that, and he would never say it (especially because Thor, if he called on some of his cosmic power, could not only defeat the Hulk, he could disintegrate him; of course, maybe he meant, "could never beat you without killing you," which I would buy into). Just incredibly stupid writing.

Spoiler:

I wondered for a time if we were going to learn that Jane Foster is actually one of the Asgardian women, given life in the same way Donald Blake was, only by Freyja. Alternately, perhaps she's Thor, too ... split off from the Blake persona long ago by Odin, Freyja or some other being to further teach him about mortality or femininity or something else. Seems less likely now, that Jane gave that Christ-like speech at the end of the last issue.

[Cat-thulhu]

Well Apparetly according to comic book news and some leaked images
comicbooknews
Lady thor is:

:

Jane foster

[Jaelithe]

Actually, we've been discussing her for a couple of days now, Cat-thulhu. Spiral_Ninja brought it up in a link on Tuesday, and his spoiler also reveals it.

[Cat-thulhu]

Awe, sad face. Thought I'd found something. Now I'm just sad. Seems I got into a bad habit of skimming after reading all the unchained threads.

[thejeff]

It will be interesting to see how things go now that we know who it is. Keeping that secret has been limiting how deep they could go with characterization - Hard to do much on how she's reacting to being Thor when you can't reveal anything about who she is. It'll be interesting to see if there's a personality shift between her as herself and her as Thor, for example.
The speech pattern shift, already visible between her words and thoughts, might be a clue to something already. I don't recall any slip-ups as you'd expect if she was just faking Asgardian speech.

[Jaelithe]

It will, indeed.

It's possible we're going to find out that she's more Thor than even she realizes ... and that such is why Aaron's gone the route of having the true Thor say, "Here's my name; you're now The Man." Or, in this case, the god ... er, the goddess ... whatever.

[phantom1592]

Jaelithe wrote:

Thing is, Masterson knew he wasn't Thor. So did Jake Olsen. Blake actually was Thor. (I don't believe Eric called himself Thor once he got the mace, even for a time, because the mace had a little phrase on it, too, that essentially renamed him Thunderstrike.) Our new gal, by contrast, is asserting she is Thor, when she doesn't share a body with him or possess any part of his psyche (that we know of, thus far) and the author's even tried this weak sauce "Thor gives her his name" tactic to legitimize an inane development. It's probably one of the stupidest things a Thor writer has had him say since he told the Hulk, "I could never beat you, you know." No well-written version of Thor thinks that, and he would never say it (especially because Thor, if he called on some of his cosmic power, could not only defeat the Hulk, he could disintegrate him; of course, maybe he meant, "could never beat you without killing you," which I would buy into). Just incredibly stupid writing.

It wasn't for long. After real Thor came back, he decided to stay in Asgard and 'retire' letting Masterson keep the hammer and protect Earth. There were two issues where he pondered what to do with the 'permanent gig' then ended up fighting Thor and losing the hammer.

Then he got the Mace, but still kept the 'Thor' Costume. As he looked like Thor and acted like Thor and had weapons like Thor, the cops kept calling him Thor and he wasn't sure how to go about correcting them.

That led to the new name and costume. So there was a very short time that both of them were around and Masterson was being called Thor...

Jake Olson I never actually read...

I think the issue is that 'Thor' goes beyond the man himself. He's not just a warrior kicking butt... He's a superhero. He has a costume. He has a specific weapon. He has powers.

The average person on the street does not REALLY believe he's the Norse god of thunder come to earth... And when someone shows up with his costume, hammer, and powers.... then they start to resuse the name. Pretty much the same as Captain America and Iron Man... The person with the power and costume doing the job... IS the name in question. At least till they come up with their own identity.

Which Jane REALLY should have done.

[LazarX]

Aranna wrote:

Ok wiki is a big help.

So the list is:
the Enchantress
Lorelei
Sif
Jane Foster
Brunnhilde

This doesn't sound like either Enchantress or Lorelei based on my limited knowledge. And Brunnhilde seems too unlikely.

So the new Thor is probably Sif or Jane Foster
Either one has potential.

What about Barbara Norris?

[KSF]

Nice wraparound cover by Thor artist Russell Dauterman for the upcoming, post-Secret Wars relaunch.

[Imbicatus]

There is a t-shirt that is appropriate.