I bought my first set at 20% off list price at GenCon last year because I wanted them right away.
My second set of class decks were $13.99 USD each. That was the standard prices at miniature market. Again, I wanted them fairly quickly along with the Ultrapro play mat.
If I needed another set of class decks, I'd probably go with CSI if they're at 7.99 USD. But isn't the import tax and shipping pretty high?
Import tax is 20%
Shipping is may be for 7 class decks 17 usd..But i already got them as you... As quickly as possible!!!
Andrew, i am with you!!! The adventure boxes have to be placed into the game box...
When you sleeve then you will hate the empty adv. boxes placing there... Because there is no space in the box.... Till now the game box design is suboptimal for sleevers...
And i hate to throw away the original plastic insert when sleeving and use a third party solution....
There is room for optimization for paizo with the upcoming adventure paths...
My idea is to use the gamebox for the cards removed from game
And the
Adventure case for all cards in the right sorting for game play....
What do you think?
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I will never sleeve unless it fits inside an official case, like the adventure case when it comes out.
As for optimization in later paths -- the current box is great for non sleevers, and the adventure case is great for sleevers. Making the standard box sleeve-compatible would massively hurt sales of the case, and is a bad idea.
Using the box for removed forever cards is overkill, you could fit them all into the new dual sized deck box.
But will you then buy one adv. case for each path when sleeving?
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Theryon hit the nail on the head. If it's a good case (I have no doubt it will be), and is worth the money for it, I will. I'm not going to buy it just to sleeve my cards, but if I do get one, I'll sleeve the set. However, that is where it gets tricky. I'm not buying a case for each set, as much as I'd like to. The base box is just not something I want to store somewhere empty for every single set, and anyone who suggests throwing it away is taking a monk-kick to the head. Most likely, I'll store the current path in the box, sleeved. Otherwise, the cards get moved back to their own and unsleeved.
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Theryon hit the nail on the head. If it's a good case (I have no doubt it will be), and is worth the money for it, I will. I'm not going to buy it just to sleeve my cards, but if I do get one, I'll sleeve the set. However, that is where it gets tricky. I'm not buying a case for each set, as much as I'd like to. The base box is just not something I want to store somewhere empty for every single set, and anyone who suggests throwing it away is taking a monk-kick to the head. Most likely, I'll store the current path in the box, sleeved. Otherwise, the cards get moved back to their own and unsleeved.
Well, my other condition is that it fits well in my travel bag. But I'll probably at least get one for my RotR set since that is just collecting dust in a two-column covered cardboard storage box.
And since I do sleeve my cards ... all of my cards ... I really need something that can hold all of them in an orderly fashion. I'll take a picture of my current setup tomorrow.
Buying a adv case for each path comsumes too much volume and space in mystorage room... Best would be one case for the actual path and official inserts for the sleeved cards in their original boxes...
If PAIZO offers a COOL storage solution where you insert all sleeved cards in its original game box, then i would SLEEVE all adv paths permanently.
This will generate a lot of $$$ for Paizo if everybody does so...
However, i will use the adv case only for the current path as it consumes addtional space in my gaming room. If the insert stays the same i will ONLY sleeve the current cards in the adv case...
Now its up to PAIZO to do a SMART move :-)
You know that it's UltraPRO who produces this additional stuff, not Paizo, right?
You know that it's UltraPRO who produces this additional stuff, not Paizo, right?
Of course, but if PAIZO did a smart licensing contract they will ask for some percentage of their earnings... It will be a win win situation...
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I'm sure they're doing fine with licensing. But don't expect changes to the insert inside the box.
The box is meant to hold all the cards from the base set, the add-on deck, and all the adventure decks ... unsleeved. So they account for just the products that they publish. The cards. They work with Ultrapro on the storage cases and sleeves and mats. But they aren't in that business so that's why the box insert is limited (in size) to just cards and the base dice.
As you said limited to ...
This also generates limited amount of $$$ ....
Why not optimizing the insert to hold both unsleeved and sleeved cards?
This will generate more cash cow effects ;-)))
Can you drink all the milk then?
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As you said limited to ...
This also generates limited amount of $$$ ....
Why not optimizing the insert to hold both unsleeved and sleeved cards?
This will generate more cash cow effects ;-)))
Can you drink all the milk then?
Probably because it really doesn't benefit Paizo to make changes to the insert to hold the sleeved set. What it (the insert) holds is what Paizo makes: the base cards and the additional decks including the boxes and the dice.
Plus they don't want to compete with Ultrapro and the new case that's being created since Paizo wants Ultrapro to be successful with their products (since they have a licensing agreement).
So the profitable thing for Paizo to do is leave things the way they are.
So the profitable thing for Paizo to do is leave things the way they are.
This is NO OpTIMIZATION of $$$$...
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Neither is your suggestion of making the base box sleeve-friendly Myfly.
You say it'd be easy money, but by doing that they would kill the majority of the adventure sales, and they would make no extra money from the base set being sleeve-friendly. So in fact, what you're suggesting would be the complete opposite, it would be a horrible loss of profit.
Also, as I said, there is no way to efficiently make the base box sleeve friendly. Using things like foam inserts is cheap and very low quality. So in addition to losing profit by taking away a huge benefit of the adventure case, you're now asking them to give us a lower quality container for our game.
I don't know about where you live, but here that's a surefire formula to lose sales and money, not increase them.
You can't optimize the insert for sleeve and unsleeved. You pick one, and accept that the other is either not possible or low quality. I'd rather them not give us a sleeved optional in the box than a low quality unsleeved option.
Neither is your suggestion of making the base box sleeve-friendly Myfly.
You say it'd be easy money, but by doing that they would kill the majority of the adventure sales, and they would make no extra money from the base set being sleeve-friendly. So in fact, what you're suggesting would be the complete opposite, it would be a horrible loss of profit.
Also, as I said, there is no way to efficiently make the base box sleeve friendly. Using things like foam inserts is cheap and very low quality. So in addition to losing profit by taking away a huge benefit of the adventure case, you're now asking them to give us a lower quality container for our game.
I don't know about where you live, but here that's a surefire formula to lose sales and money, not increase them.
You can't optimize the insert for sleeve and unsleeved. You pick one, and accept that the other is either not possible or low quality. I'd rather them not give us a sleeved optional in the box than a low quality unsleeved option.
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I opened new thread for this topic.... Andrew..
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