Yes, you are correct.
Correct, unless your race provides you with a SLA that counts as arcane.
Besides race SLAs which Claxon pointed out traits that give SLAs work, too.
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Besides race SLAs which Claxon pointed out traits that give SLAs work, too.
It's for my Half-Orc bloodrager, so I don't thing I need to worry about any spell-like abilities for him!
I had to strain my brain for a couple of minutes about SLA! Is there a list of the Pathfinder slang/acronym/shortcut thingies out there? Just so I'm not confused (as much) about those?
Not that I know of. I usually Google search 'acronym Pathfinder' if I'm lost or just ask.
For late start spellcasters I always like to take the Magical Knack trait. It would also boost your Arcane Strike by two levels.
For late start spellcasters I always like to take the Magical Knack trait. It would also boost your Arcane Strike by two levels.
Bloodrager has full casterlevel once he starts getting spells.
Edit: Ninja'd
@Gruugdúrz: What I meant was that the trait could help you if you want Arcane strike from level 1.
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For late start spellcasters I always like to take the Magical Knack trait. It would also boost your Arcane Strike by two levels.Bloodrager has full casterlevel once he starts getting spells.
Edit: Ninja'd
@Gruugdúrz: What I meant was that the trait could help you if you want Arcane strike from level 1.
It would come in hand were he to multi class, though.
But I probably won't.
I just wanted to make sure I had the right information about when he can take a feat, so I don't get it wrong and have to scramble for a correct alternate feat.
There's just so many feats to choose from! :O
Except the bloodrager cannot benefit from it, because he gets full casterlevels, he just starts at level 4 with 4 casterlevels :)
I didn't realize that. I'm suddenly more interested in the Bloodrager class. Thanks!
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Except the bloodrager cannot benefit from it, because he gets full casterlevels, he just starts at level 4 with 4 casterlevels :)I didn't realize that. I'm suddenly more interested in the Bloodrager class. Thanks!
The bloodrager's kind of cool. I have one a go at a PFS scenario earlier this week. It's one of the newer hybrid classes; a bit of a mix between barbarian and sorcerer. Not as much starch and varieties of combat abilities as a barbarian, but the raging has magic associated with it.
The bloodrager is also capable of handing out astounding amounts of damage in a hurry. Not quite so much as the barbarian in the long haul, though. But it is fun!
And the bloodrager does get to cast some spells, but not until 4th level and up. And even then, only up to 4th level sorcerer/wizard spells. So, realistically, a bloodrager (if not multi-classing) would have to wait until level 5 before being able to take Arcane Strike.
For late start spellcasters I always like to take the Magical Knack trait. It would also boost your Arcane Strike by two levels.
It just occurred to me that the Magical Knack trait would be pretty cool for my regular character who's a Multi-classed half-elf.
Just thought I'd mention it!
Thanks for the idea!
Besides race SLAs which Claxon pointed out traits that give SLAs work, too.It's for my Half-Orc bloodrager, so I don't thing I need to worry about any spell-like abilities for him!
I had to strain my brain for a couple of minutes about SLA! Is there a list of the Pathfinder slang/acronym/shortcut thingies out there? Just so I'm not confused (as much) about those?
I would take a trait that gives you one anyway. It lets you forget about this 'waiting' nonsense. Which can help with build concerns.
I would personally grab the trifler trait. It is a human racial trait (yu are half orc, it is fine) that gives you prestidigitation 3/day (which is 3 hours per day given the duration). I always love to have that spell, since it is like duct tape- it is a relatively mundane solution to a lot of little problems. Anyway, since bloodragers lack cantrips, this seems like it might be nice to grab anyway.
Anyway, just something that came to mind from the thread title: "When can they STOP using arcane strike?" Personally, I might keep things glowy and glittered up 24/7. Just cause. Maybe your half orc is a heavy metal magical girl with a morning star for her staff (And now I've found my new favorite character concept for this class)
I know that I am necro'ing an old thread, but to clarify, if I was say, a gnome, with access to gnome magic, and a bloodrager, I could take arcane strike at first level no problem?
Nope. I believe the "SLA count as spell casting" ruling was removed. Now SLA only fulfill prerequisites if they include the particular spell that SLA is imitating.
That used to be the case. For a while SLAs counted as a general ability to cast spell for things like arcane strike.
They made a FAQ (a narrowing of the first FAQ that allowed this actually) to clarify that an SLA doesn't count as general casting and can only be used for perquisites if the specific spell is a prerequisite.
So if you had an SLA to cast dimension door, it wouldn't count as arcane casting or the ability to cast 4th level spells, but it would count for dimensional agility which specifically requires dimension door.
So no arcane strike with a racial SLA.
Yeah, the rules have been changed in the intervening time. SLA's don't really qualify you for much anymore. Arcane Strike is one of things the new ruling disqualified.
Personally, I think it was specifically because of racial and trait SLAs and Arcane Strike that the ruling was made. And in that sense I agree with it, it was too easy to get a scaling damage boost.
But, removing the early entry from prestige classes wasn't really needed. Most prestige classes are a strict downgrade from staying single classed.
Lemmy is correct. Here's a link to the FAQ
This Lemmy guy sure is smart.