I look at this class and that is all I can see it as. When I read through the infusions I started getting this feeling that it reminded me of all the abilities. Water being able to heal with there power, creating walls to block of attacks with earth or water. If you remove the AEther element than you have a bender.
I agree very strongly. This is not just a bender, it is an archetypal anime blaster. And I must say I like it. It also replaces the warlock, which I never liked. So it is all good with me. The ability to make a character who is an intuitive master of powers without being a genius is part of what a sorcerer does, but the kineticist manages to do so with mainly at-will powers without going stir crazy power-wise.
It is a running scale of versatility; arcanist - wizard - sorcerer - kineticist. At one end, great versatility. At the other, great repeatability. Take your pick.
I also love the utility powers, they bring a lot of bender/anime mage feel without being too over the top. Again, even a minor power can be amazing if it is at will.
Benders are just the most recent popular thing. There are so many Air/Fire/Earth/Wind mage stuff that just doesn't work with a normal caster. You're generally mired with spells having nothing to do with your element, underpowered beyond belief or just so physically weak that you can be something other than 'the blaster' when it comes to your elemental theme.
So, how do we get to play the Avatar? Will there be an archetype for that? :D
Gestalt kineticist with monk and each have a different element snd watch the fun.
Gestalt isn't even a Pathfinder rule.
No it is not. But then again pf is suppose to be backward compatible.
Also they are more guidelines then rules.
I don't think we can compare the pirate code to Pathfinder rules. :p
Anyway, gestalt characters are not really meant for regular campaigns. I'd be more interested in a way to play the Avatar as a regular character (probably without the ability to go into the Avatar state). I'd actually be surprised if there wasn't an archetype to simulate that somehow.
The connection between kinetics and martial arts in the show could really improve the kineticist class. Being able to hold his ground with a fighting style is one of the things missing at the current version.
While I agree in general with Crisischild, Heladriell has a point. At the moment the Kineticist has nothing but blasting. A martial arts slant would give it more precident to have more interesting class features, class skills and flavor. I think it not having any flavor not related to its kinesis is resulting in a lot of mechanical damage to the class. Flavor should probably be arbitrarily attached to it mostly to leave design space to be taken away for archetypes, and thus different flavor, in addition to shoring the weaknesses of the class.
Martial influence was why i said gestalt with monk. Or brawler if you want full bab. But monk gives good wis and wis to ac along with a few fun things via qinggong
With the right options you can build Storm of the X-Men.
With the right options you can build Storm of the X-Men.
Which is basically the same as an anime mage. A concept character focused around an elemental theme, instead of around the mechanism of magic as wizards are.
So, how do we get to play the Avatar? Will there be an archetype for that? :D
The kineticist capstone makes you the Avatar.
So, how do we get to play the Avatar? Will there be an archetype for that? :DThe kineticist capstone makes you the Avatar.
Yeah, I saw that. A bit late, IMO. ^^
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I think of Kaladin from the Stormlight Archive and wish that kineticists got powers like other stormlight users. Also Liz Sherman from Hellboy. A little of State Alchemists. A little of Codex Alera
Maybe I'll have to give Avatar another go but the two episodes I saw didnt warrant this level of excitement.
Maybe I'll have to give Avatar another go but the two episodes I saw didnt warrant this level of excitement.
Totally off-topic, but you should give it another chance. It picks up speed slowly and doesn't really get going until episode 10 or so, but I think its worth the wait.
I'll go to episode 11 and see how I feel then! That's only about 3 hours of my life I can spare that.
The later seasons only get better, just so you know. IIRC, around the first half of the first season was a lot of set up for the world and how everything worked.
I'll go to episode 11 and see how I feel then! That's only about 3 hours of my life I can spare that.The later seasons only get better, just so you know. IIRC, around the first half of the first season was a lot of set up for the world and how everything worked.
Second season hurt my soul. I was scared for the life of a character with no lines.
While Avatar and bending is the first thing that came to mind for the elements, when it comes to aether I think more of magneto, jean grey, carrie and such. Of course there's many other influences.
That being said, the class has done a good job at making me want to make it my own. Which shouldn't be terribly hard.
No it is not. But then again pf is suppose to be backward compatible.
Also they are more guidelines then rules.
^ this
Also, the Pirates code can be allied to all
and superman for that matter (cause flight plus heat vision plus DR is a thing).
So, how do we get to play the Avatar? Will there be an archetype for that? :D
At level 20 you get omnikineticist, allowing you to "bend" all of the elements.
I kind of think our earlier work with the Elemental Master hits it closer.
Sorry, Kineticist is a better match for benders.