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My standpoint is GW took a system that is not great for melee compared to ddo or terra got complaints about melee being difficult and in response rooted ranged combat lmao. Now im trying to keep in mind that this change has been called temporary numerous times. If it stays then it's an omen of whats to come for pfo.Sound strategy for archers or clerics. What about wizards who will have no armour or melee weapons?I presume you will need to take advantage of the staff range to kill the boss monsters then revert to area spells.
Basically I do not agree with the ranged changes. My argument all along was that the people saying ranged was overpowered just happened to SUCK VERY BADLY at melee.
To my mind "I suck at melee therefore nerf ranged" was never a good argument.
Melee is not difficult per se - just requires more player knowledge and skill and was MUCH MUCH more dependent on quality of gear than ranged.
As a result in Alpha where people, as I said, did not understand melee very well and could not get quality gear (T2 and T3 is nearly impossible) ranged was mistakenly perceived as vastly overpowered.
I would agree that ranged maybe need a slight rebalanced but this change in my opinion was an extreme and misinformed over-reaction.
I would point out that I am a crafter/melee player so this change does not actually effect me personally.
Edam, you are a highly skilled player that has invested much in your character's melee capabilities. Comparing your ability to melee to a noob with 1000 exp and little idea what they are doing- and just how devastating they can still be with a bow, wand or staff- is not a legitimate comparison.
This nerf needs to happen. Otherwise, new players will never learn how to play the game.
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Goblin Squad Member
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I think that we need to be careful of the words we use and the offense we take.
In the many discussions on SAD, I would point out flaws and some would say they would never take advantage of such exploits. I never said they would, but that the exploit would.
I suspect that this will effectively hijack this thread leading to it being locked and worse.
@sspitfire1, I love this concept. We need to be careful of what we say and offense we take.
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Goblin Squad Member
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Edam, you are a highly skilled player that has invested much in your character's melee capabilities. Comparing your ability to melee to a noob with 1000 exp and little idea what they are doing- and just how devastating they can still be with a bow, wand or staff- is not a legitimate comparison.
This nerf needs to happen. Otherwise, new players will never learn how to play the game.
I've come around to the position that the nerf isn't needed, and there is no harm in letting the noob wield a little power.
They will learn some elements of combat doing it this way. Requiring them to work with a team and causing the mechanics to force them into team dependency teaches them nothing except dependency. Giving them a little power to harvest mob nodes at least teaches them the value of maneuver, of picking their targets, the utility and limitations of stealth, and feat selection/timing/rotation. Requiring dependency only teaches them to let the experienced do the work and take the risks and is still only PvE and not at all PvP.
The only way you can learn PvP is doing it. You won't learn PvP harvesting a node (unless you get jumped).
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Thanks! Can we please let this die now? I'm going to stop responding to folks talking about the stationary system to help it along.
I learned a lesson in creating this thread. But every time it comes to the top it is a slap in my face- punishment for a mistake I made. If you want to keep punishing me for the mistakes I have already owned and am working towards not repeating, then please keep posting here. Otherwise, it is time we retire this and move on. As I said, I will do my part by not responding to people on the subject of stationary ranged anymore.
