Venture-Captain, Germany—Hamburg
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Is there a stat block somewhere that writes up a slaver as neutral on the good/evil axis? If so, I'd be honestly interested to see it. If not, why go on saying Paizo presents slavery as LN when they stat up slavers as varieties of evil?
They don't print stat blocks for LN or LG slavers, because those are not a problem anyone has to deal with. They treat their slaves well and keep a more employer-employee-like relationship.
Oh, and I just remember, there is a description of a LN slaver:
Hokama Pashket (LN male human expert 2): Hokama is a successful water merchant from the ancient kingdom of Osirion. He is primarily on this trip to establish contacts and new markets, so he travels with only three camels heavily laden with full waterskins and dowsing rods of questionable reliability, as well as his slave-boy, Atmar (LN male human commoner 1).
As you see, he's LN, but there's no stat block because non-evil slavers are nothing you fight against.
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I just gmed a lot of the new scenarios and i have to say i really like them. Some had minor flaws/unclear options on them and could have been better explained, true, but overall they were pretty good and a win to have!
Assault on the wound was especially nice in my eyes. Of course you understand it better after playing season 5, which it concludes.
Being reduced to CHA checks doesn´t really fit it. You´re playing an army and not your character in parts, but your CHA has some consequences.
Since there were many complaints about a certain faction of players dumping CHA into nonexistance and being more powerful quite often, not the worst thing to do from time to time.
The second part of that scenario is really nice written too, offers a fair chance to unprepared players in all encounters and finally has really good written tactics.
Of course your GM needs to tell you the whereabouts and hints that are written there about everything, that is essential.
But not listening to that as a player, just walking in and counting on the fact that you can cleave everything is probably not gonna work out.
In my eyes, on of the best developments that could be there!
Same is true for the special Legacy of the Stone Lords and paths we choose. All nice written stories with good developments.
Even 6-01 and 6-02 were good scenarios! They offered many options and players that were listening could find ways to resolve them. 6-02 might need some adjustments or clarifications, but that´s also partly a GM call.
Venture-Agent, Minnesota
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i am not exactly arguing for the removal of slavery from the setting, i am arguing that the societies where it is acceptable and the people that take part in it should be by default LE instead of LN. the fact that absalom has a slave market in it, and is the headquarters of the pathfinder society is just mind boggling to me. the fact that there was a mission briefing where the stated purpose was to take part in a slave auction and that violence/trickery were only last resort is mind boggling to me. i assume that the person writing this doesn't see this as a problem, and that campaign leadership doesn't see this as a problem. it seems there have been a great many arguments about this on the boards. have there been more arguments about this or synthesist summoners or tetori monks? who knows. i know...
I'm writing a novel on America in the 1830's and have done quite a bit of research into slavery and societies. As a result, I think that LN is the correct default. In 1830's America, one of the largest slave markets was on the White House lawn. Being openly abolitionist in Washington DC was dangerous. The Snow Riots of 1831 involved the burning of homes and businesses of anyone suspected of being abolitionist. Just about anyone of property in that town would have had friends and social contacts who owned slaves.
Would I have called 1830's America a LE society? Perhaps. It was the same era that our government caused the Cherokee Trail of Tears, after all. Would I have considered everyone who participated or dealt with slaves on a regular basis LE? No.
People are complicated, and slave owning societies are even more complex. I just read the book on Qadira that Paizo did, and want to give them credit for creating rules on the children of slave / free unions that were more forward-thinking and complex than those of U.S. I was unaware that Absalom had a slave market, but given U.S.'s history, I think that it fits in a world filled with moral ambiguity.
And it gives those of us in Liberty's Edge Faction more challenges to fight, and reasons to be part of the resistance.
Hmm