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Hi, everyone! I think the Dragon Disciple PrC is very cool. I really like the idea of heightening the influence your bloodline choice has on your character. I think it's a shame that similar PrC's for other bloodlines have never been written.
So I'm doing it for our upcoming book. I already wrote one for the nanite bloodline. What's your favorite bloodline? What would you love to see get the same treatment?
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Rakshasa
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Love the idea of Nanite.
I'd be remiss if I didn't say Celestial and Infernal/Abyssal/Daemonic. Working toward a half-celestial/half-fiend templates would be cool.
Next I'd consider would be elemental. They used to have a pretty awesome class that did something similar in 3.5 if I remember right. Basically about focusing on your element and eventually ending up partially elemental by the end.
Undead would be after that. Gain immunities, maybe partial lich transformation? Definitely something workable there.
Last I'd give nods to Fey, Aberrant, and Protean. They'd be a bit trickier but with the right concept could work well too.
I gotta ask for bloodrager support as well. :)
Next I'd consider would be elemental. They used to have a pretty awesome class that did something similar in 3.5 if I remember right. Basically about focusing on your element and eventually ending up partially elemental by the end.
Elemental Savant =) Fun-looking class I never got to play.
Last I'd give nods to Fey, Aberrant, and Protean. They'd be a bit trickier but with the right concept could work well too.
+1.
Impossible bloodline is darned cool on its own, would love to see a PrC dedicated to it.
Maestro could be fun.
I'll give a more thorough list when I can get to the PFSRD - it's blocked here at work, and the PRD here on Paizo is a pain to navigate.
Forgot Impossible. Add that to my list as well.
Elemental or all the genie bloodlines.
Starsoul
Undead
Aberrant
Celestial
Abyssal
Those are at the top of my list.
I'd love to see a daemon bloodline. Considering they are working towards oblivion it would be interesting to see some characters with that in their bloodline.
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Dang it, Kiel, get out of here. Write it yourself!
Love the idea of Nanite.
I'm glad. I didn't even know it existed until a few weeks ago and I knew that was my first choice for one of these PrC's. It gets some neat forcefield stuff and can turn any energy spell what is a ray or ranged touch attack into a laser!
I gotta ask for bloodrager support as well. :)
In the PrC's? Well, I don't plan on putting in requirements that would make it difficult or impossible for a bloodrager to get into, but I'm not sure I want to put in anything specific to bloodrager in this book. There will be products down the road for the Hybrids, though.
Lots of interest here but I'm seeing some common threads.
Rakshasa: 1
Celestial: 2
Infernal: 1
Abyssal: 2
Daemon: 1 (not counting (headkase)
Elemental: 3
Genie: 1
Starsoul: 1
Undead: 1
Maestro: 1
Undead: 2
Fey: 1
Aberration: 2
Protean: 1
I think that's right.
Missed two votes for Impossible bloodline from Aleron and myself, and one more for Fey, Protean, and Aberrant from me. I'll toss in support for Celestial, Infernal, Abyssal, Daemon, and Raksasha as well.
Long as Bloodrager can get into it I mean and they aren't necessarily only sorc specific. Didn't necessarily want anything just for bloodragers.
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Thank you, Orthos!
Rakshasa: 2
Celestial: 3
Infernal: 2
Abyssal: 3
Daemon: 2 (not counting (headkase)
Elemental: 3
Genie: 1
Starsoul: 1
Undead: 1
Maestro: 1
Undead: 2
Fey: 2
Aberration: 3
Protean: 2
Impossible: 2
Long as Bloodrager can get into it I mean and they aren't necessarily only sorc specific. Didn't necessarily want anything just for bloodragers.
Yeah, the prerequisites are going to be similar to dragon disciple, must be able to cast spontaneously, have some knowledge or languges or what have you. Nothing a bloodrager can't handle.
I think the PrC's will be really good for Bloodrager. Yeah, you'll miss out on greater bloodrage and the DR but looking at DD, you get stat bonuses and natural armor that are pretty great. The nanite PrC will also get some stat boosts but also improve his nanite strike. It'll be pretty cool.
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Impossible, Maestro, and the Genies are my main hopes. Starsoul, Deep Earth, Harrow, and Boreal would be next. :)
Oh, and if OGL 3rd-party content might be used, the Couatl, Eidolon, Flail Snail, and Pugwampi bloodlines from Monstrous Bloodlines for Sorcerers 2 by Purple Duck Games would all be fantastic for Prestige Classes, in my opinion.
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There seems to be quite a bit of interest in this and in a bigger variety than I expected. What would you guys think of some kind of random drawing, people who buy the book when it comes out can send me a screen shot of their receipt or forward it or whatever and I'll randomly pick one or two and write a PrC like this for whatever bloodline they want. I'll involve them in the creation process and post the finished result on our blog. Is that cool or dumb? I've never done anything nor can i recall anyone else doing something like this so there might be a reason.
Lindley, I'll look up those bloodlines. I have no problem using 3pp bloodlines as long as they are on the web somewhere so I can link to it. I wouldn't want to make something that made a customer buy another book, though otherwise I love working with other 3pp colleague's creations.
So basically you'll make the product with so many prestige classes in it then do an extra drawing for a supplement and do one of the selections that wasn't initially picked?
Sounds cool to me. :)
I like a lot of Bloodlines, but I am just getting ready to play one with a Fey Bloodline, so that gets my vote.
And I love the drawing idea.
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So basically you'll make the product with so many prestige classes in it then do an extra drawing for a supplement and do one of the selections that wasn't initially picked?
Sounds cool to me. :)
Precisely. I think there will be two of these in the book along with the other stuff we have cooked up and I might release one on the blog at launch. That one will probably be a 3pp bloodline because I like the idea the more I think of it.
I know two people isn't the kind of sample size a statistician would drool over but I'm glad my idea has some traction.
I can get behind it.
Dang it, Kiel, get out of here. Write it yourself!
Alright I will! Only because someone finally spelled my name right!
Add another vote for Undead here. What can I say, I've always liked a bloodline who gets a power that can literally grab you (with skeletal arms, no less!).
All of them, but mostly Celestial and Undead!
rakasha bloodine.
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This idea has a whole truckload of merit to it. Are you going to expand the idea to oracles?
Heck, go the extra mile. Make a bloodline, then add a PrC for it. Make a mystery, then add a PrC to it. Want to make one based on my Perfect Bacon mystery? Have fun!
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Heck, go the extra mile. Make a bloodline, then add a PrC for it. Make a mystery, then add a PrC to it. Want to make one based on my Perfect Bacon mystery? Have fun!
This is going to happen one of these days. The Blood and Mystery book will exist.
Final Tally:
Rakshasa: 3
Celestial: 4
Infernal: 2
Abyssal: 3
Daemon: 2 (not counting (headkase)
Elemental: 3
Genie: 2
Starsoul: 1
Undead: 3
Maestro: 2
Undead: 2
Fey: 3
Aberration: 3
Protean: 2
Impossible: 3
Looks like Celestial squeaked by in the end. From a design perspective, I think it's a good choice. A lot of people like to get into DD by way of Paladin now. How much more would they like a Celestial option? I hope a lot.
If your hope and dream didn't come true here, remember that we'll do a drawing for purchasers where you'll get your chance to choose a bloodline and contribute to design choices if you like.