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I know we will have an answer to this question in about a month, but I thought some wild speculation would be fun.
As a PFS event coordinator I keep up on all of the PFS related blog posts and yesterday they posted this little tidbit. Now the PFS and AP lines have different developers but they still tend to remain fairly intermingled, which got me speculating. Three Dragon Empires races are being added to the list of always available races, which seems odd considering PFS has been pretty Inner Sea focused for the last couple of seasons and even went so far as to dissolve the Tian Xia based faction. This got me thinking that perhaps PFS is planning on following the AP line back to the far side of the world and we will get the wuxai-themed AP the line so desperately deserves.
Now, I know my logic doesn't work as well since the AP being announced would coincide with the start of Season 7 of PFS and that Season 6 is following Iron Gods in its early scenarios and will likely tie into Giantslayer at least a little bit. However, it would be great to see a return to Tian Xia and perhaps getting these characters into the mix now is a means of paving the way for next season and the AP tie-in.
What is your wild speculation about the next AP?
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GALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good sleuthing tho:) i hope you're right:)
outside of Galt, Tian-Xia is number one on my list of APs i'd like to see:)
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GALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clearly they weren't listening in the next AP request thread. Perhaps you were too subtle...
The AP after Giantslayer will also include issue #100 and I recall Mr. Jacobs, who will be helming this AP, stating somewhere that the team is planning something special. In this post he drops a hint about runelords, so he may be alluding to this AP or might be dropping hints for further down the road. However, to revisit runelords immediately on the heels of a back to the roots of the game AP seems unlikely.
i hope this is obvious enough:)
NUMERIA!!!!!
isnt that coming before Giant Slayer?
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Yes! And the basic rules of symmetry and elegance call for one to come also after! :)NUMERIA!!!!!isnt that coming before Giant Slayer?
okay then, i'm fine with it:) i'd prefer a Distant Worlds situation myself (outside of Galt that is:)
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Runelords, but not set on the main continent but instead on the islands leading toward the Mordant Spire.
TALDOR
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LAND OF THE LINNORM KINGS.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tien-focused scenario after Giantslayer.
We should expect something that's "experimental" in one way or another. Giantslayer is very much a traditional D&D-eseque fantasy sort of thing. (I think that Erik Mona described it as a "fastball right down the plate" at PaizoCon.) This is unsurprising, given that Iron Gods is definitely more "experimental" (although one should point out the Barrier Peaks as longstanding precedent).
Of course, experimental can be experimental in lots of ways. Wrath of the Righteous was experimental in rules. Shattered Star was experimental as a sequel. (Honestly, I think Reign of Winter was more "experimental" than Shattered Star with its world-hopping, but if we're going to fit it into the "every-other" model, then Shattered Star is supposed to be the experimental one.)
Tien-focused could be experimental in a couple of ways. First, because many of us have our western-fantasy blinders on over here in Avistan and Garund, just playing around with one of the other ancient and rich mythological traditions of human (i.e. real-world Earth) culture that isn't the primary source material for our current game feels "experimental"..... But, there could be some other things that we don't see coming, along the lines of Mythic, or wackiness. (Or, watch Paizo come out with psionics, thereby splitting the fanbase between Dreamscarred-adherents and those who want to use the Paizo system.)
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Much as I'd like to see a Tian-Xia AP, I suspect that we won't be seeing that for a long while. :(
Rather, I half suspect that the followup AP will have something to do with the Runelords, for reasons suggested here (notably issue #100 falling within the course of the AP and it being James Jacobs' turn at the helm).
Quite possibly Giantslayer will serve as a lead-in of sorts, though not necessarily.
But I am willing to be pleasantly surprised one way or another!
I think sometimes the experimental and traditional models get switched around for production reasons. I believe Reign of Winter was experimental, as was Wrath, but Mummy really isn't
As for the fall AP, I am going to guess something with Absalom and/or Aboleth and/or Rune Lords. Seems like for the 100th AP volume they might want to touch upon a major element of the setting.
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I'm going to guess (or campaign for...)
Return of the Crimson Throne! Or some variation thereof to bring that classic out of 3.5 to current levels. It's been a few AP's now that we've been away from Varisia, hasn't it? For AP #100 it would be a nice touch to return there...
Aw, I was hoping to meet the Runelord of Pride...
I'd like to see Taldor regain its glory, an urban AP like Absalom... Hmm...
I don't know!!!
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The other Runelords aren't yet ready to return, and Tian Xia is too far away for the moment.
Won't be long till the next one's revealed, though!
Well, I guess I was wrong on both my predictions. I need to add some more ranks to my sluething skill.
With a complete lack of evidence I am now predicting the next AP will be the much needed Absalom urban intrigue AP.
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Aw, I was hoping to meet the Runelord of Pride...
I'd like to see Taldor regain its glory, an urban AP like Absalom... Hmm...
I don't know!!!
Given that the Kingdom of Pride (I don't recall the actual name at the moment) occupied those lands currently comprised of the Lands of the Linnorm Kings & Fafnir is mentioned as being an adviser to Xanderghul, the odds are good that if/when there is a Lands of the Linnorm Kings AP, it may very well be the next Runelords AP as well.
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Given that the Kingdom of Pride (I don't recall the actual name at the moment) occupied those lands currently comprised of the Lands of the Linnorm Kings & Fafnir is mentioned as being an adviser to Xanderghul, the odds are good that if/when there is a Lands of the Linnorm Kings AP, it may very well be the next Runelords AP as well.Aw, I was hoping to meet the Runelord of Pride...
I'd like to see Taldor regain its glory, an urban AP like Absalom... Hmm...
I don't know!!!
That's awesome, I want that AP!
Does writing in large letters somehow improve the chance of my preferences being chosen?
Anyway, I'd really like an AP centered on Taldor, Andoran or Tian Xia. Or the return of Sorshen, the NC 17 AP. :p
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Does writing in large letters somehow improve the chance of my preferences being chosen?
i think i've proven it does not in fact increase your chances:) i've come up empty since i started:)
to be honest it just started as a tribute to the Rage Against the Machine song "Freedom!" and also because just typing one tiny four letter word is easy to get lost amidst the longer more thought out posts:)
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It'd only increase your chances if you somehow managed to pick the AP that I've already hired 6 authors to start writing on. AKA: The AP is chosen, and can't be changed now! :-)
Well, at the very least I can say what I'd like to see after that.
Oh, and hire Brandon Hodge again. Guy writes the best module you've ever published and then drops from the face of the earth, as far as AP modules go. Not really fair.
It'd only increase your chances if you somehow managed to pick the AP that I've already hired 6 authors to start writing on. AKA: The AP is chosen, and can't be changed now! :-)Well, at the very least I can say what I'd like to see after that.
Oh, and hire Brandon Hodge again. Guy writes the best module you've ever published and then drops from the face of the earth, as far as AP modules go. Not really fair.
i was just wondering the exact same thing:) Dead Heart of Xin and Rasputin Must Die! are two of the best adventures ever give the man more work:)
I'm hoping it's just that he's busy with other things and not that he's not looking to do more writing.
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It'd only increase your chances if you somehow managed to pick the AP that I've already hired 6 authors to start writing on. AKA: The AP is chosen, and can't be changed now! :-)Well, at the very least I can say what I'd like to see after that.
Oh, and hire Brandon Hodge again. Guy writes the best module you've ever published and then drops from the face of the earth, as far as AP modules go. Not really fair.
Brandon Hodge was cool got to meet him at Paizocon in 2013. He was also in the Horrors in RPG seminar (Audio version)
But my guess is Land of the Linnorm Kings AP.
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It'd only increase your chances if you somehow managed to pick the AP that I've already hired 6 authors to start writing on. AKA: The AP is chosen, and can't be changed now! :-)So how many AP's am you ahead in trems of planning 2 to 3 ?
I've got my APs more or less picked out through to about 2018 at this point. I think Rob's got his out to at LEAST 2016, if not 2017.
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It'd only increase your chances if you somehow managed to pick the AP that I've already hired 6 authors to start writing on. AKA: The AP is chosen, and can't be changed now! :-)Well, at the very least I can say what I'd like to see after that.
Oh, and hire Brandon Hodge again. Guy writes the best module you've ever published and then drops from the face of the earth, as far as AP modules go. Not really fair.
Talk to Brandon. We've been offering him AP installments pretty much every six months, but it turns out he is a VERY busy guy, and a very RESPONSIBLE guy who doesn't overcommit.
I'm pretty sad that Rasputin didn't get nominated for an Ennie though, I must admit. :-(
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It has not been? That's a crime, it really is the best AP module I've ever seen your company publish (followed by The Dead Heart of Xin, Tide of Honor and Seven Days to the Grave, by the way).
Anyway, I hope Brandon can write another AP module soon, he is very, very good at it, actively listens to constructive criticism and proceeds to use it to write better for his next work.
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I've got my APs more or less picked out through to about 2018 at this point. I think Rob's got his out to at LEAST 2016, if not 2017.
Holy crap, that's pretty awesome. Can you give us some things that are in the pipeline? Without getting too spoilery obviously. I'm guessing from your comment that runelords and Tian Xia are planned in the indeterminate future?
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I don't remember where but I remember James Jacobs saying that Paizo has most if not all the pieces needed to run a Test of the Starstone AP. TO me this fills all the expected requirements. It'll be experimental and it's freaking insane enough to really shine as AP #100. I would love for it to be true and end with us becoming Gods... or die trying.
While volume #100 will indeed be special and memorable with something extra going on...
...it's only the 17th Adventure Path.
Maybe when we hit AP #20 we'll do something outlandish for the whole AP, but for now... we're not going to do something over the top like a Test of the Starstone AP or something like that.
It'll be pretty cool, and it absolutely will involve elements of things that have been oft-requested here... perhaps not in EXACTLY the way they've been requested, but I think folks will dig it.
And that's the scoop on that!
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I've got my APs more or less picked out through to about 2018 at this point. I think Rob's got his out to at LEAST 2016, if not 2017.Holy crap, that's pretty awesome. Can you give us some things that are in the pipeline? Without getting too spoilery obviously. I'm guessing from your comment that runelords and Tian Xia are planned in the indeterminate future?
I could...
... but I won't. Not beyond what I've snuck out there already... and what I've snuck out there in the form of hints also has some red herrings and chaff meant to disguise the actual plans.
AKA: We don't announce our products that far out, because they can and often do change. I'd originally planned on doing Jade Regent as the 3rd Paizo Adventure Path... but it got put off several years. That was pretty disappointing and frustrating to me, and I'd rather keep that disappointment and frustration internalized here at Paizo rather than spread the wealth. So... no announcements of APs until we're 100% sure we're going forward with them.
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@Torke: I'm not sure. We did just have a Mythic AP barely six months ago. While this would be three APs between Mythic stories... given the problems with Mythic and the need for the rules to have a significant erratum which hasn't been hinted at, I honestly can't see another Mythic AP ever happening.
Well, that's unless the AP didn't go to Tier 10; if it limited itself to Tier 5 at most, then it is marginally viable. But I doubt we'll see it.
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Another Mythic AP could work with just a few small changes.
First, assume APL = level of characters + mythic tiers (not just half the mythic tiers).
Second, in the first volume of the AP, include a couple of pages of "suggested changes to Mythic" that (effectively) errata some of the most overpowered components of Mythic.
Finally, buff monster hp in a progressive fashion, so that low and moderate CR monsters aren't changed, but higher CR monsters get more hp than they otherwise would have. (This is in addition to the change in assumed APL for the party.)
...as it might shed light on Aroden's death....
Pretty sure that T-Rex has said in the past that nothing will ever shed light on Aroden's death. :/
...as it might shed light on Aroden's death....Pretty sure that T-Rex has said in the past that nothing will ever shed light on Aroden's death. :/
When you solve the greatest mystery, then whats left to solve?
When you solve the greatest mystery, then whats left to solve?...as it might shed light on Aroden's death....Pretty sure that T-Rex has said in the past that nothing will ever shed light on Aroden's death. :/
How to bring Aroden back, I imagine.
Or how to make the most bank.
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I'm of the mind that some mysteries are best left unsolved:)
and Aroden Isn't coming back, ever (at least thats the general feeling i get)