It wouldn't be the first time I said something crazy that became an accidental spoiler.
Maybe the "Clock King" who died in police headquarters in season one of Gotham is the father of the "Clock King" who messes with time travel trying to fix his life. He might accidentally break into one of the timelines in The Flash.
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Oh come on Cisco both great Caesars ghost and excelsior back to back... its just too far.
Vid,
Blame the Legends for blowing up time.
I'll watch the new one of those tomorrow.
Vid,
If you watch Legends first you might understand why Legends is now influencing Arrowverse.
I dunno. The fact they needed him to fight Robot Samurai WAS impactful.
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Its Samuroid thomas samuriod.
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My wife, who before I got her into these series, and the Marvel movies, wasn't much into comics, about 15 mins in goes "Well of course he's messed up, his mind is existing in the past, present and future at the same time and he was probably energy for the last thousand years."
To which my 8yr old replies "They need to give him something small to focus on in the present"
I've taught them well.
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My wife, who before I got her into these series, and the Marvel movies, wasn't much into comics, about 15 mins in goes "Well of course he's messed up, his mind is existing in the bast present and future at the same time and he was probably energy for the last thousand years."
To which my 8yr old replies "They need to give him something small to focus on in the present"
I've taught them well.
Wow I would steal your family if I could.
the bringing him back thing did seem a bit rushed. I guess their goal is for it to follow the flash (it is named after him after all) so that is why you don't see much from the 6 months and the season starts with them bringing him back.
I feel like it was very as soon as things started getting tough well be better bring Barry back we have a guy in a samurai costume. (although that wasn't really the reason. just an excuse to bring him back.)
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Yeah, I agree they rushed bringing him back. They should have had a few episodes of Wally as Flash (I though the suit fit him well), working his ass off and stepping up to fill the void.
Overall, I thought it was a lackluster episode. Samuroid was kind of lame. And it looks like we're going to get more of the Jekyll and Hyde thing with Caitlin/Killer Frost.
One of my favorite parts, however, was Joe. His talk of faith (and Jazz album collections) was nice. As always, Jesse L. Martin is a wonderful actor.
I agree with Hama. A couple episodes without Barry, showing the gang actually being competent without him would have been nice. Good to see Vibe doing his thing in the field, though.
Still, decent enough that I will watch the next episode without reservations (well, more than I usually have for this show).
I disagree with that concept... I think if they showed the team being competent without Barry, it only shows that they don't NEED Barry. And for a show named 'the Flash' the last thing I want is for Barry to be redundant in his own show. As it is... they have spent so many years showing Barry as the underdog in... just about everything that I really can't think of reason that he has the kind of street cred he seems to that Wally couldn't have covered/
I flip flopped between liking and disliking the idea the first tiem they REALLY need him they immediately have a plan to get him... that seems lame... until they point out that Cisco has been trying to do this since the moment he was taken... Still the conincidence wasn't great.
I think the episode would have been better if they had cut out Samuraoid completely and just had Team Vibe/Kid Flash dealing with some minor threats (love their 1/3 success rate) while Cisco focused on getting Barry back. Having the 'I need real flash NOW...' was just a bit too much.
I dunno. It didn't seem that much since Samuriod clearly could handle two B-listers.
But that's just me.
Set,
Yes that's Peek a boo.
Their is one plus side to all this however fellas. We finally got high power Barry. Hopefully no more whining that I'm not fast enough. Now it Should be hmm I'll just go faster!
Pretty sure she's back this season.
It's also a slightly brighter shade of red.
We'll see if the new suit works better than the old one.
Right now, yes Barry is faster. But whether he STAY faster is a question for the rest of the season.
That and the Thinker being smarter than Barry. (Not that HARD!)
I'm personally hoping they don't nerf him later on. Lets see if the writers can finally keep the fastest an alive busy.
Vid,
They had three season to do that. I don't see this season breaking that record.
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Iris: HOW COULD YOU LEAVE ME BARRY???
Are you kidding me? THE WORLD WAS GOING TO END. THE WORLD???????
Why does Iris always makes two steps back whenever she makes a step forward? WHY
BAAAAAAAAD WRIIIIIIIITING.
IE: People who don't know how to write multi-season character development for female characters.
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I dunno. I could understand EMOTIONALLY why she felt like it. Sure the world was going to end but, it still hurts when your soon to be hubby goes away for months without a chance of coming back.
Plus side: I like Arrowverse Kilgore better than DC Comics version.
Tangentially related: who else thinks Heatwave was talking about The Joker in Legends this week?
Jem,
I missed it so I can't comment on that. But maybe?
Thurston,
I agree, he's a WAY better villain than Savitar.
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Jem,
I missed it so I can't comment on that. But maybe?
He was explaining why he hates clowns. It was a very telling explanation, and that's all I'll say.
Pennywise, maybe, but I keep thinking Joker. Mick's reaction was a visceral one, the kind you get from direct exposure.
Maybe he watched the mini-series?
A-zombie, eh. I think blaster was more for "stun your opponents when you can't hit them." Maybe?
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I dunno...Clown phobias are kind of in now.
Although Oliver Queen just name-dropped Bruce Wayne, so who knows...
MMC,
Watch Season one again with the news papers Oliver picks up. Plus the fact Wayne Industries is mentioned... Admittedly it could have been just about Thomas Wayne but still!
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I dunno...Clown phobias are kind of in now.
Although Oliver Queen just name-dropped Bruce Wayne, so who knows...
Both of those things happening in the same week stretches coincidence a little far.
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I am very very eagerly keeping my finger crossed. Imagine Batman coming in, kicking ass of everything in the room and going to Oliver like "Mr. Queen you really need to work on your technique"
Never going to happen. You don't make the guest completely show up the lead. See Supergirl/Superman fight.
Yes and by default if they DID bring in Batman, people would expect him to always win.
The only reason Supergirl 'won' was a lucky strike in my mind.
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Greenie,
I'm not sure I'm ready to believe writers that let one of the most powerful ALIEN telepaths there is get blocked by a twenty something kid.
Consistent maybe but he's supposed to be able to read minds! I don't buy it any more than the writers say she's stronger than him. Equal yes, not stronger.