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As the title states, I have an arrogant and aggressive player. Sadly said, that player is my brother. My brother typically will play characters that are constantly passive aggressive and angry at everyone else.
Sadly, he will make fun of the other characters and then, when the characters get angry about it and do something back he gets butt-hurt.
The best example I can come up with is the character Valeros from the Pathfinder Iconics. I wouldn't mind if it was just ONE character, but, he reflects it in every character he plays.
He has been playing for about two years now, and we've constantly told him what he has been doing wrong and continues to be stubborn and remain arrogant about the fact that he is ruining the fun of the people at the table.
The downside is that we game over at my mom's house (and I live there too, I'm seventeen), so, if I tell him that he cannot play anymore in my games. It's very likely that I will be forced to stop my games in total.
So, what do I do?
The only other thought is to keep him out of the game, and explain to my parents about what my brother's behavior has been like. He has already, accidentally, ruined my Star Wars D6 game
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Sadly as much as using the parent card sucks it is probably your best bet. Is he a younger brother? I had a simular issue with a younger sister, being forced to include her in things she had no huge interest in other to annoy me and my friends. It got better when she got a bit older and no longer was forced into tagging along. Try running a game where everyone goes aong with whatever random arrogant thing he is doing... maybe try to like make being that guy would get old suddenly? good luck on things by the by
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You could always persecute his characters mercilessly. :-)
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Don't let him get away with it. Tell him privately - in a text, perhaps - that his behaviour last time was unacceptable. Name a few specific examples, and tell him that it's not just the isolated incidents, it's the pattern of behavior. Tell him that the next game will start with him apologizing, or start without him.
Then get in front of it with your parents, and inform them of the what and why, before he has a chance to establish his side.
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As the title states, I have an arrogant and aggressive player. Sadly said, that player is my brother. My brother typically will play characters that are constantly passive aggressive and angry at everyone else.
Sadly, he will make fun of the other characters and then, when the characters get angry about it and do something back he gets butt-hurt.
The best example I can come up with is the character Valeros from the Pathfinder Iconics. I wouldn't mind if it was just ONE character, but, he reflects it in every character he plays.
He has been playing for about two years now, and we've constantly told him what he has been doing wrong and continues to be stubborn and remain arrogant about the fact that he is ruining the fun of the people at the table.
The downside is that we game over at my mom's house (and I live there too, I'm seventeen), so, if I tell him that he cannot play anymore in my games. It's very likely that I will be forced to stop my games in total.
So, what do I do?
The only other thought is to keep him out of the game, and explain to my parents about what my brother's behavior has been like. He has already, accidentally, ruined my Star Wars D6 game
Easy
Directed at the other players after your brother is a dick in character to them:"So, this fellow adventurer is really giving you trouble. You could kill or punish him if you wish."
Thus began the adventures of kill this character whenever he got out of line. If he starts getting shirty, explain he needs to tow the line and respect other players, or they will kill him over and over again for the xp, gp, and his boots.
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I believe the common treatment of such symptoms in dogs and horses is gelding.
Isn't this one of the reasons why older brothers wail on younger brothers? If I pulled this with my brother Matt first he'd talk to me, then he'd kill me in the game, and if in either case I whined about it he'd wrestle me to the ground, possibly dangling some spit for good measure.
I'm serious; this was my childhood.
Maybe you brothers are different. Maybe you guys are the "hug it out" types they make all these sitcoms about. If so, I'd suggest you talk to him once again, this time citing specifics and involving the whole gaming group. Explain that he can't tease others and then cry if he's teased back - that's a little like bullying and there's plenty of "no bully" campaigns in school right now. Also at this public meeting set up consequences such as Troll DM mentioned above. If he's gonna get uppity, he's gonna get whupped in game; if he keeps at it his PC's gonna get killed.
If this STILL doesn't do it, and you're stuck in the same house w/him, perhaps take it up w/your parents. For nothing else give them a heads up why you're ostracizing him from your games. If all else fails, maybe start messing up his room or steal his comics.
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Have the team in a bar. Make them tell their tales. Wait for your brother gets arrogant and ruin other player's fun. Have the world best swordsman (a level 20 fighter) over heard his arrogant talk and challenge him in duel. Give the swordsman a heavy fortified mithral full plate. Give him a +5 ring of protection, +5 Amulet of Natural Armour, ring of force shield and. Give him a +5 oversized Falchion with Improve Critical. Feat wise get improve initiative, dodge, mobility, spring attack and all other feats you would have for a fighter. Give the fighter enough stats so he will have at least 20+ saves bonus.
Rule for the duel, start with stand facing each others with 25 feet in between. Who ever got the best initiative begin combat. Last man standing win.
Here is what you can do with the duel. We have a PC in a place where he will die for sure and have almost no chance to fight back. So it means you have a choice here. You can kill him as punishment, or you can cut him unconscious(fake the dice rolls so he won't die). If you cut him unconscious, you can have the swordsman tell him "True power comes from one heart's desire to protect what he stands for. Love, friends, ideal. As for you, I saw nothing..." and he faint. Then have the swordsman tell his friends that "You and your friend does not have the power to challenge me. Grow your bond, understand the pain. Then you will see..." And left.
Later on, you can have the swordsman to return and test if the team has been working together better. If so, have the swordsman offer them a gift as encouragement for working together. If not, cut them(not kill). As for his background story, it could be that he was trying to protect his friends and family, but he was too weak. His friends give their lives to forge him his gears with their power and their own body so he can not be beaten even by god/space/time. That is the true bond of friendship. And to bring his friends back, he will clean this world off evil with his sword while finding a way to bring his friends back.
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Try to find out why your brother is doing this. Ask yourself these questions. Is he like this in everyday life? How dose he interact with HIS friends? How old is he and where you like that at his age? Try talking to him to see if he has a problem at school he can't resolve himself. Taking the high road will show your parents that you are trying to handle this like an adult. If this bares no fruit then bring up the fact to you parents that they are promoting rewards for bad behavor. As a parent myself that would be a great way to convince me. But please be respectful and calm. Emotion has no place here because this will not be fixed overnight. I hope this helps. As someone whos played since D&D 2nd edition our group has seen just about everything and went a year without playing because of something like this. Dont let this happen to you because it sucks. Good luck.
Well, it just seems like you have a jerk at the table.
Possibly find out what he doesn't like doing, and then make your campaigns only about that. Eventually he will leave, and then you can go back to playing how you want to play.
If he voluntarily leaves then fantastic.
Alternatively you could just play at one of your friend's houses and not invite him.
Your problem is that he is passive-aggressive--he hasn't learned that being that way only causes turmoil, and should get get his balls twisted,--and hasn't learned how much better life is when you are just aggressive.
You could change the campaign to be of extreme dark fantasy with only a few good characters, whom if he alienates himself from them, will not help him at all as he is just another lost soul to this . . . World of Darkness . . . .
At least then him being angry with everything will work for him.
Allow the other PCs to be angry and hateful towards his PC, and allow roleplaying to handle everything. If he is being passive aggressive to everyone then let them all be passive aggressive to him. Let them all let him die, because if he really is as horrible and toxic as you say then he is just going to bring everyone down until he decides to go play WoW or something.
Basically, Screw that guy. He's a jerk, and not a lovable one at that, we all know that lovable jerk who we know who is mean but at the same time sort of cuddly, and your brother is not that.
Alternatively, you could just REQUIRE that he play a Paladin or worse, a Cleric, and the moment he drastically steps out of line remove all of his powers because he made his deity angry at him.
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Just remember that "Why are you hitting yourself?" is an Extraordinary Ability that can be used at will by older bothers vs unruly little brothers.
These sorts of situations can become social interaction death spirals.
Sometimes the best thing to do is back away, take a deep breath and look very long and hard at our own actions. Perhaps this is a reaction to some perceived lack of attention or a means of establishing some measure of influence in a relationship that otherwise feels one-sided.
How is your relationship outside of gaming? Do you do things together (fishing, going out with friends, cruising town, etc.) or is gaming the only social endeavor you do together? Are the other players mostly your friends, and have you not allowed his friends to play? Is the only reason he is playing is because your parents made it a condition?
These all factor into the situation. Perhaps he doesn't feel welcome and is reacting to that.
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Just remember that "Why are you hitting yourself?" is an Extraordinary Ability that can be used at will by older bothers vs unruly little brothers.
Just remember that "Knee to balls" is an Extraordinary Ability that can be used at will by little brothers vs unruly older brothers.
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The only other thought is to keep him out of the game, and explain to my parents about what my brother's behavior has been like.
Explain to your parents, but don't ask them to fix the problem. Ask them how they think that you should approach solving the problem. Say that you don't want to resort to excluding him, but you will have to if he continues to make all of the other players miserable, as that's only fair. Good luck.
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SiuoL, that's even worse advice than kicking the brat's ass. Nobody likes ham-handed morality lessons from dick-extension NPCs.
Tell him that he's no longer welcome in your game until he stops being a douche. I see no reason to involve your parents at all.
I certainly had no problems telling my big brother he wasn't welcome in my games, though, so I have difficulty seeing why it's an issue for others.
SiuoL, that's even worse advice than kicking the brat's ass. Nobody likes ham-handed morality lessons from dick-extension NPCs.
True, nobody likes it. That's why he deserves it.
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Also little brothers grow sometimes to be bigger than big brothers
As my big brother found out
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The only other thought is to keep him out of the game, and explain to my parents about what my brother's behavior has been like. He has already, accidentally, ruined my Star Wars D6 game
This is probably your best bet. Talk to your brother, if he once again refuses to stop, talk to your parents, explain to them that your brother is repeatedly and purposely ruining your games by being a jerk.
It always suck having to pull the parent card, but this is one case where it seems like the most appropriate course of action. Hopefully, it works and your brother starts being more friendly in-game.
Just remember that "Why are you hitting yourself?" is an Extraordinary Ability that can be used at will by older bothers vs unruly little brothers.
Hah... Not always, and not permanently. I grew up to be about a whole foot taller than my brother. Nowadays, not only I always make my saving throw against "Why are you hitting yourself?", I automatically reflect it back to the original attacker.
Also little brothers grow sometimes to be bigger than big brothers
As my big brother found out
Isn't it a joyful day when both brothers realize the younger one can fight back? lol.