intelligent item help


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Sovereign Court 5/5

I am both a future user and gm to people who will have access to intelligent items(braid of 100 masters). so my question is how do intelligent items effect society game play. Ive never used em alot in homebrew so my understanding is limited to that they have an independent personality. how do they effect the mechanics.

Grand Lodge 2/5

I only know of one intelligent item, from a scenario, in Society play and it acts as an independent personality. It won't make itself know unless the players do certain things, and will act in a (GM decided) appropriate way to the players actions. As for how your item(s) acts is entirely up to the GM, it is after all just another NPC.

Mechanically, intelligent items won't change how the game is played. Some GM's may use them as Deus Ex Machina to "suggest" solutions to players, or give exposition tales of daring-do to the players, but I find that weak storytelling. (Telling someone else's story is never as fun as letting the players make their own.)

Your Mileage May Vary

Dark Archive 2/5

Braid of 100 masters isn't an intelligent item. It is a unique magic item. Why do you think its an intelligent item?

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

In addition to the one mentioned by Latith (assuming I'm thinking of the same one), the only PFS permitted intelligent item is the Black Blades from the Magus Bladebound Archtype.

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

There are two intelligent items available to PCs who play through the respective adventures. In my experience, a player who purchases such an item from the Chronicle sheet then controls how much the item participates in conversation and interaction. Partly this is because a GM running a future scenario might not be familiar with the adventure in which the PC acquired said item, so the burden of managing the personality is more comfortably in the hands of the player. For those GMs who are comfortable with the idea, an intelligent item's voice might be used as a way of providing a bit of commentary to lighten the mood or help push the PCs toward making a decision (perhaps providing a minor clue that keeps a group from crashing to a halt when struggling to solve a puzzle). As Lanith mentioned above, having an intelligent item providing puzzle solutions to a group isn't the best idea unless the group is at risk of giving up on the adventure.

Item #1 (A ring from Season 2):

The Ring of the Weary Sky from Part 3 of the Heresy of Man series

Item #2 (A sword from Season 4):

Gamin the Misforged from The Night March of Kalkamedes

Sovereign Court 5/5

the braid is on chronicle and the scenario states its intelligent, but dormant

The Braid of a Hundred Masters is an intelligent item that rests dormant now, and can only be reawakened in a ritual conducted by its last master (or his eldest descendant if the master is dead). When reawakened, the braid functions only for the individual named as the master’s successor.

so is its intelligence fluff only or what

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

It appears that that was fluff that never quite made it to the final item. As a result, I must assume that the braid's knowledge is transmitted to the wearer via empathy or the like, but the item otherwise behaves as a normal magic item.

Sovereign Court 5/5

ok, thanx john. my vl and i were curious bout the rules on that.

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

on that note, has anyone out there ever actually purchased the ring from Johns spoiler one?

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

Matthew Pittard wrote:
on that note, has anyone out there ever actually purchased the ring from Johns spoiler one?

A close friend of mine purchased it, but that's just from my limited experience with the scenario (played once, never GMed).

Grand Lodge 4/5

Matthew Pittard wrote:
on that note, has anyone out there ever actually purchased the ring from Johns spoiler one?

My Sorc. has purchased the ring and I have a friend who has a Wizard that purchased the ring.

Nathan Meyers
NYC PFS GM/Player

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

Has it impacted on games post receiving it? Do you forget that it is intelligent or for that matter has a dm ever used it as a plot device in later games?

Grand Lodge 4/5

Matthew Pittard wrote:
on that note, has anyone out there ever actually purchased the ring from Johns spoiler one?

Yes, its ability to activate without prompting probably saved my character in a later module.

5/5 5/55/55/5

John Compton wrote:
It appears that that was fluff that never quite made it to the final item. As a result, I must assume that the braid's knowledge is transmitted to the wearer via empathy or the like, but the item otherwise behaves as a normal magic item.

Father Tsubi, what wisdom does the most holy artifact of Iori impart to you?

"It feels like... a song ...

and a desire to buy shampoo. *sniff* How long was this in the yeti nest?"

5/5 *

Besides chronicle sheet access, blackblade magi get access to an intelligent item also.

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

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That was mentioned previously by FLite. What is interesting thought is that in the chronicled module I was in recently the Magus with said blade died. Does the blade

A) Lose it's mojo?
B) Lose it's intelligence?
C) Refuse to cooperate with anyone else?
D) Absorb the Magus soul ?

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