Worth pointing out however that Skye's comic character Quake was long associated with Shield, so I doubt they will depower her or right her off, or at least permanently.
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I kind of called it when it came to Emma. When Fitz mentioned her new anti-Inhuman stance as to why he kept Skye condition a secret. She of course mentions that it's not the same because Skye is a friend. I guess they want to really go for the hypocrite angle. Kill off all the other Inhumans for being different and dangerous. Just not the ones who are my friends or family.
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Purple, I think Ultron is as close to Sentinels as Marvel will come - I could be wrong, however.
BTW, are we taking predictions about either who or what organization Mac and Bobbie are working for?
Yet Sif talks casually about technology and dealing with alien races like she just finished a tour of duty on the Starship Enterprise.
Thor knew enough about Asgardian tech to point out that to his people 'magic and technology are one and the same'. He just wasn't familiar with Earth/Midgard's technology. The last time he visited for very long was millenia ago.
Sif is a lot more...studious than Thor is.
Disclaimer: I don't know what Sif actually said in last night's episode, because I watch using ABC's streaming app, which won't unlock new episodes for a week. I'll be watching the midseason premiere later today.
Yep...and Thor is also nobility, and thus probably there is an expectation that he doesn't really need to worry about all the tech and specifics, since that is what the servants are for.
Also...I am betting the the folks Bobbi and Mack work for are a splinter group of shield that will go on to form SWORD.
think of it this way.
If someone put you infront of a Microfiche reader. Would you know how to use it?
SWORD will be a disappointment I think... As for as Alien knowledge goes, Bobbi and Mack don't seem to know NUTHIN'...
What would the point be of saying they were with SWORD then?
Rival SHIELD that BECOMES SWORD, that may have potential... but if they're going to claim that the alien defense squad is already up and running... just without the tech or knowledge, then blahhhhh..
Wasn't there a character called Mack in the comics who was in shield but actually worked for the CIA?
think of it this way.
If someone put you infront of a Microfiche reader. Would you know how to use it?
Yes.
SWORD will be a disappointment I think... As for as Alien knowledge goes, Bobbi and Mack don't seem to know NUTHIN'...
What would the point be of saying they were with SWORD then?
Rival SHIELD that BECOMES SWORD, that may have potential... but if they're going to claim that the alien defense squad is already up and running... just without the tech or knowledge, then blahhhhh..
Given that the seems to be a schism in the team forming over supers, that might be the impetus for the formation of SWORD
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(as a sidenote, I agree with other posters: what a relief that mutants are not in the MCU... at least Inhumans make sense as they are the result of alien experimentations on humans... if they retcon X-Men / Charles Xavier / Magneto as another covert alien experiment, I wouldn't be appaled... spontaneous mutations in humans over two or three generations don't make much sense if I understand the prevalent theories correctly)
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The speculation I've been seeing elsewhere on the intarwebs is that Bobbi and Mack are working for Tony Stark (or Maria Hill on behalf of Tony Stark). Given that Marvel's next movies are Age of Ultron and Captain America: Civil War, I find that hypothesis fairly easy to support.
Stark certainly has a big enough ego (and bank account) to think that he can privately run an organization to protect Earth from extraterrestrial threats, and in the wake of the revelation about Hydra, it's not inconceivable that some SHIELD agents might agree with him.
I am still waiting for the big reveal that Simmons has been brainwashed into a Hydra mole. While a lot has happened that could have changed her thinking, I just keep feeling that there's something off about the way she's been behaving since her undercover stint with Hydra.
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I think that makes a hell of a lot of sense, Dire Elf. With Civil War not far off, I think we heard the first shots of it in that last episode. "WE need to be protected from [I]HER![/b]" That's the dividing line right there. Besides, Stark has Fury's right hand woman, Maria Hill, working in Stark Industries now. She'd be the perfect person to run an op against Coulson.
What is it that Fury's holding in there? My guess is the gifted list.
I do wonder if they're going to set up a version of how Sif became Sif, the Golden-Haired.
Basically, she had dark hair . like she's been show so far, then Loki (of course) cut off all of her hair in a prank. For some reason it didn't grow back, so Thor had a 'discussion' with Loki, who had the dwarves make her a golden wig, which became permanent hair.
Lady Sif is the baronet style of peerage... or was declared a Lady during a drunken feast by Odin... she's the help, however you may call her.Yep...and Thor is also nobility,And the Lady Sif is not?
No drunken feast by Odin was needed.
We know from the first Thor movie that Sif gained the title of "Lady" because she earned it.
No doubt a drunken feast then followed.
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I do wonder if they're going to set up a version of how Sif became Sif, the Golden-Haired.
Basically, she had dark hair . like she's been show so far, then Loki (of course) cut off all of her hair in a prank. For some reason it didn't grow back, so Thor had a 'discussion' with Loki, who had the dwarves make her a golden wig, which became permanent hair.
That (along with Thor being a bearded redhead) has never really been part of the comic book lore.
Comic book Sif, the sword-wielding warrior goddess, is quite a bit different than the goddess of earth, wheat, fertility and wedlock, who is most famous for being Thor's wife and mother of his kids, from Norse tradition.
Indeed, Thor's kids Magni and Modi, who, based on the lore, should have been around for a couple thousand years already, haven't even been born yet, in the Marvel universe!
there was a loki mini-series taking place after he had beaten everyone and dealt with some backstory/origin stuff...
Did touch on Sif's hair change, but I think it went the other way. Cut of the golden locks and changed to dark and bitter...
there was a loki mini-series taking place after he had beaten everyone and dealt with some backstory/origin stuff...
Did touch on Sif's hair change, but I think it went the other way. Cut of the golden locks and changed to dark and bitter...
I think I DO remember something like that.
there was a loki mini-series taking place after he had beaten everyone and dealt with some backstory/origin stuff...
Did touch on Sif's hair change, but I think it went the other way. Cut of the golden locks and changed to dark and bitter...
I recall watching that. Was it actually licensed by Marvel? Because it seemed to lean a lot more on actual Norse/Icelandic myth than comic lore.
I do wonder if they're going to set up a version of how Sif became Sif, the Golden-Haired.
Basically, she had dark hair . like she's been show so far, then Loki (of course) cut off all of her hair in a prank. For some reason it didn't grow back, so Thor had a 'discussion' with Loki, who had the dwarves make her a golden wig, which became permanent hair.
That's the mythological version; in the MU it was reversed - Sif originally had golden hair, which was then cut off and replaced by hair the dwarves Eitri and Brokk made from shadows. That's why comic Sif has dark hair.
EDIT: Durhurur. Should have read a couple posts down first. Reading fail!
EDIT2: Walt Simonson's classic Thor run actually did incorporate a great deal of Norse mythology in it. And on a side note, he's currently writing and drawing Ragnarok which in many ways can be seen as a "sequel" to his Marvel Thor run (albeit not a Marvel comic).
The speculation I've been seeing elsewhere on the intarwebs is that Bobbi and Mack are working for Tony Stark (or Maria Hill on behalf of Tony Stark). Given that Marvel's next movies are Age of Ultron and Captain America: Civil War, I find that hypothesis fairly easy to support.
Stark certainly has a big enough ego (and bank account) to think that he can privately run an organization to protect Earth from extraterrestrial threats, and in the wake of the revelation about Hydra, it's not inconceivable that some SHIELD agents might agree with him.
I am still waiting for the big reveal that Simmons has been brainwashed into a Hydra mole. While a lot has happened that could have changed her thinking, I just keep feeling that there's something off about the way she's been behaving since her undercover stint with Hydra.
Thus setting up the very real possibility of Coulson & SHIELD vs Maria Hill in a possible season 3. Nice.
The cinematic Asgard however, seems to be more along the lines of the Kirby incarnation with how Clarke would describe as "sufficiently advanced science."
True, though they've already borrowed quite a bit from Simonson's Thor run, too. Malekith the Accursed, Kurse/Algrim the elf, the Casket of Ancient Winters- all of these were Simonson creations. There has even been talk of introducing Beta Ray Bill at some point.
Then, too, Simonson is hardly one unfamiliar with Kirby's creations. His Orion of the New Gods series is amazing (and, it should be noted, Kirby's New Gods borrowed a lot of elements from various mythologies itself even as it combined it with science.)
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Indeed, I enjoyed the episode, but...
Although, I was happy to see Edward James Olmos. Dude's a great actor.
And I continue to love Cal - Kyle MacLachlan plays him so over the top. Loved that little mention of his formula and how he keeps tweaking it.
I also enjoyed this further insight into May's past. Very cool interaction with her ex.
I honestly didn't consider the "Other" Shield that much of a surprise twist. I pretty much figured everything on the show was leading up to that, and it makes perfect sense given the fractured fall of the organization after the Hydra reveal. Of course their would be other factions that were not Hydra that would be interested in rebuilding the organization, and not all of them would be fans of Coulson/Fury.
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I honestly didn't consider the "Other" Shield that much of a surprise twist. I pretty much figured everything on the show was leading up to that, and it makes perfect sense given the fractured fall of the organization after the Hydra reveal. Of course their would be other factions that were not Hydra that would be interested in rebuilding the organization, and not all of them would be fans of Coulson/Fury.
Did not someone upthread mention the remnants of the World Security Council (the original "leaders" of S.H.I.E.L.D.) would want to rebuild the organization?
If so, they might (understandably) not agree that former Director Fury had the right to hand over S.H.I.E.L.D. to Coulson.
Also, if these are the surviving members, it would explain why Bobbi and Mack are willing to obey them over Director Coulson.
Of course, the fact that Fury is stll alive is a big check to their ambitions.
Of course, the fact that Fury is stll alive is a big check to their ambitions.
But, since they don't know that, they are proceeding as if they are the legitimate authority.
Actually, they wouldn't perceive Fury being alive as having any effect on their authority. Fury answered to them, not the other way around.
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I actually had a couple of other problems with the episode.
1 - Why did they put Skye on the "Index"? We know that HYDRA also has access to the index, and still has many of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s old resources. Did Coulson and May just reveal Skye (as more then just a rookie agent) to HYDRA?
2 - Does S.H.I.E.L.D. (post Winter Soldier) still have any authority over "meta-humans"?
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1) I don't think that SHIELD's Index and Hydra's Index are being kept in sync anymore.
1) I don't think that SHIELD's Index and Hydra's Index are being kept in sync anymore.
Likely not.
But, that goes back to the authority thing.
Bobbi and Mack may be right. Coulson's branch of S.H.I.E.L.D. is answerable only to Coulson ; and this would still make reasonable people very nervous.
I honestly didn't consider the "Other" Shield that much of a surprise twist. I pretty much figured everything on the show was leading up to that, and it makes perfect sense given the fractured fall of the organization after the Hydra reveal. Of course their would be other factions that were not Hydra that would be interested in rebuilding the organization, and not all of them would be fans of Coulson/Fury.Did not someone upthread mention the remnants of the World Security Council (the original "leaders" of S.H.I.E.L.D.) would want to rebuild the organization?
If so, they might (understandably) not agree that former Director Fury had the right to hand over S.H.I.E.L.D. to Coulson.
Also, if these are the surviving members, it would explain why Bobbi and Mack are willing to obey them over Director Coulson.
As far as I can tell from Winter Soldier, Pierce killed almost all of the Security Council, with only the member impersonated by Black Widow still probably alive
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Wished they'd not done something as silly as the one woman with the hands, who could have been depowered far more easily than they did.
was baffled for a bit about the "real SHIELD", but then I realized it was just another splinter, and one putting on airs.