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Scarab Sages

dmchucky69 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Marik Whiterose wrote:

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Casts Blair Underwood

Well, it's been a nice run. He's killed many a show before.

I hope they cast Ted McGinley next.

Dang Freehold; you really have to let this go.

Or I'll ask Joss Whedon to hide under your bed with a loofah....

You'll never get him to let it go. His hatred of Joss Whedon (and Alton Brown, and Facebook, and any weather above freezing temperatures, and <insert latest here>) is part of what defines him. Much like his love of My Little Pony, and anime, and that City-where-they-make-crappy-salsa. If you take these things away, he just wouldn't be Freehold.

Sovereign Court

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Oh god, he's a Brony. Now it all makes sense xD


Alas, there are many bronies and pegasisters who love Whedon, Brown, and Facebook. However, despite their wrongheadedness, I do not hold their love of such things against them. Friendship is indeed magic.

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You acknowledge that you are a Brony?

Sovereign Court

I hate Facebook as well, but Unfortunately, it is too useful.

Why do you hate brown?


Personally, I was hoping they would continue to build the team with recognizable people who are just around. Net everyone needs to be in every episode, but if you keep killing off everyone the organization will never seem like it has recovered, even if it becomes as huge as it once was. It would be more interesting to me if they kept introducing agents for one or two episodes as people who work with the rest of the team, and then maybe have them in the background of other episodes and getting a speaking roll every few after.


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?

for many years, yes.


Hama wrote:

I hate Facebook as well, but Unfortunately, it is too useful.

Why do you hate brown?

Because my former roommates love him despite me doing the majority of the cooking at the time, his whedonizing of iron chef via iron chef America, and his horrid cutthroat kitchen show, which just proves his CE Alignment.

Sovereign Court

The first reason is really petty. The rest I can understand.


Cthulhudrew wrote:


The Daring Darkhawk!

Already to buy my ticket for this one!


Freehold DM wrote:
Alas, there are many bronies and pegasisters who love Whedon, Brown, and Facebook. However, despite their wrongheadedness, I do not hold their love of such things against them. Friendship is indeed magic.

Wait, did you say "pegasisters?"

*updates his slang codex*


Spiral_Ninja wrote:

OK, OK

** spoiler omitted **

Word. Raina is awful - wish she would just disappear from the show.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.

Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)


Greylurker wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)

if possible it's even BETTER....

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.

It says so....right on his officialy facebook page!!


Freehold DM wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)

if possible it's even BETTER....

Wait, does that mean you are watching something dubbed, then subtitled back?


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Wow, the Japanese voice for Derpy is adorable.


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Grey Lensman wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)

if possible it's even BETTER....
Wait, does that mean you are watching something dubbed, then subtitled back?

messes with your head doesn't it.


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Is there a my little Pony thread you all can take this conversation to?


how long do we have to wait for new SHIELD anyway?

I know we got Agent Carter in it's place for the next little while but kind of curious to see how this Inhuman's thing goes

Sovereign Court

Next January, around 20th I believe.

Grand Lodge

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Greylurker wrote:

how long do we have to wait for new SHIELD anyway?

I know we got Agent Carter in it's place for the next little while but kind of curious to see how this Inhuman's thing goes

Agents of SHIELD comes back in March.

Agent Carter starts in January.

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Skeld wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

how long do we have to wait for new SHIELD anyway?

I know we got Agent Carter in it's place for the next little while but kind of curious to see how this Inhuman's thing goes

Agents of SHIELD comes back in March.

Agent Carter starts in January.

Should we start a new thread for Agent Carter or continue in this one?

The Exchange

Lord Fyre wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

how long do we have to wait for new SHIELD anyway?

I know we got Agent Carter in it's place for the next little while but kind of curious to see how this Inhuman's thing goes

Agents of SHIELD comes back in March.

Agent Carter starts in January.

Should we start a new thread for Agent Carter or continue in this one?

For logistics reasons I'd say stick with one thread for now. The two shows are likely to be connected in several ways and have a very similar viewer base here on the Paizo forums. Plus, short term, there will be a significant period of time where we have Agent Carter but don't have AoS.

Grand Lodge

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Lord Snow wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

how long do we have to wait for new SHIELD anyway?

I know we got Agent Carter in it's place for the next little while but kind of curious to see how this Inhuman's thing goes

Agents of SHIELD comes back in March.

Agent Carter starts in January.

Should we start a new thread for Agent Carter or continue in this one?
For logistics reasons I'd say stick with one thread for now. The two shows are likely to be connected in several ways and have a very similar viewer base here on the Paizo forums. Plus, short term, there will be a significant period of time where we have Agent Carter but don't have AoS.

Agreed.


Yeah, we have Agent Carter, which is really origins of SHIELD, starting on Jan 6th and running for eight episodes, and then Agents of SHIELD comes back on March 3rd.

Oh, and if this was already mentioned in the thread, my apologies, but what does everyone think of the official announcement that part 2 of the season will have tie-ins to the Age of Ultron movie?

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As long as the series doesn't vamp for a month, the way it did with the Captain America movie, I'm good with tie-ins.

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Well, I believe that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Inhumans in MCU

Liberty's Edge

Hama wrote:
Well, I believe that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Inhumans in MCU

Uh...the evidence we have suggests they're lab experiments made by Strucker.

He did speculate as to why they survived with powers while others died in the experiments, but that hardly screams 'Inhumans' to me.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Hama wrote:
Well, I believe that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Inhumans in MCU

Uh...the evidence we have suggests they're lab experiments made by Strucker.

He did speculate as to why they survived with powers while others died in the experiments, but that hardly screams 'Inhumans' to me.

I'd say there is a chance. It isn't certain, but given the ties Quicksilver has to the inhumans in the comics (being married to one of the royal family and having a kid with her) I can't discount the possibility either.

Sovereign Court

Well, Whitehall was also a lab experiment, wasn't he?


Greylurker wrote:
Grey Lensman wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)

if possible it's even BETTER....
Wait, does that mean you are watching something dubbed, then subtitled back?

messes with your head doesn't it.

So much for dubbing means it must have been ruined. Direct from the horse's mouth.

Sovereign Court

That quote pile looks beautifully artistic...

Liberty's Edge

Hama wrote:
Well, Whitehall was also a lab experiment, wasn't he?

He was. Different experiment, though.


Grey Lensman wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Grey Lensman wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Greylurker wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
You acknowledge that you are a Brony?
for many years, yes.
Well done. To admit that means you are no coward!

I've watched it in Japanese with english subtitles.

Japanese Derpy is damn cute

(Ponies, they will consume every thread)

if possible it's even BETTER....
Wait, does that mean you are watching something dubbed, then subtitled back?

messes with your head doesn't it.

So much for dubbing means it must have been ruined. Direct from the horse's mouth.

hey, I didn't like rainbow dash's seiyuu.

Dark Archive

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Grey Lensman wrote:
Deadmanwalking wrote:
Hama wrote:
Well, I believe that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Inhumans in MCU

Uh...the evidence we have suggests they're lab experiments made by Strucker.

He did speculate as to why they survived with powers while others died in the experiments, but that hardly screams 'Inhumans' to me.

I'd say there is a chance. It isn't certain, but given the ties Quicksilver has to the inhumans in the comics (being married to one of the royal family and having a kid with her) I can't discount the possibility either.

It's as good a guess as any with the information we have available. Not everyone with powers is going to be Inhuman, though. I think Scorch from S1 is a good example of "gifted, not Inhuman." He didn't know how he got his powers. I really feel like if you went into an abandoned temple and briefly gained a stone cocoon after a crystal farted on you, then you'd be prone to remembering it. It's possible that Wanda and Pyotr will fall in that category.

Then again, maybe they don't. We don't know exactly what Loki was using in his staff. Maybe it was something like what took over Mac's mind in the last two episodes, and that's somehow able to spark Terrigenesis. Also, to add fuel to the speculation fire, in the comics, Scarlet Witch went bugnuts (again), and Quicksilver and Magneto teamed up to take her down. She cast a spell to knock out everyone but herself nearby with her bloodline. Quicksilver fell over. Magneto remained standing. We already knew that Marvel was moving away from using mutants, so this might be distancing the MCU Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch from the X-Men movies Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch.


Misroi wrote:
It's as good a guess as any with the information we have available. Not everyone with powers is going to be Inhuman, though. I think Scorch from S1 is a good example of "gifted, not Inhuman." He didn't know how he got his powers. I really feel like if you went into an abandoned temple and briefly gained a stone cocoon after a crystal farted on you, then you'd be prone to remembering it. It's possible that Wanda and Pietro will fall in that category.

Also a good point. I mentioned the Inhumans in the manner I did to bring up the point that it is an explanation which shouldn't be discounted out of hand. But, as you rightly point out, it shouldn't be accepted to the exclusion of all other possibilities either. Anyways, we will have definite answers eventually, as the comics will not let a storyline like that sit for too long (I think it's part of the next relaunch of Remender's title) and Avengers II is due out next Summer.


Actually it is known what Loki was using in his staff; the 'mind' infinity gem. Definitely not what took over Mac.


I remember reading it somewhere that the gem in Loki's staff is the mind gem. But I do find it strange that Thanos would let Loki have it at all.

Dark Archive

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I agree, Dragon. Which is why I'm not certain it was the Mind Gem. Thanos' whole schtick is "assemble the Gauntlet at all costs," so it makes little sense to me at this moment why he would relinquish one of those pieces. My guess? At least one (if not more) of the other Infinity Gems are already on Earth. This would explain why one (if not two) have already turned up on our pale blue dot in such a short time. It was Thanos' plan to take Earth so he could acquire the Gems already here.

I'm still hoping that the Eye of Agamotto ends up being the Reality Gem, which is how Doctor Strange performs "magic."

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Misroi wrote:

I agree, Dragon. Which is why I'm not certain it was the Mind Gem. Thanos' whole schtick is "assemble the Gauntlet at all costs," so it makes little sense to me at this moment why he would relinquish one of those pieces. My guess? At least one (if not more) of the other Infinity Gems are already on Earth. This would explain why one (if not two) have already turned up on our pale blue dot in such a short time. It was Thanos' plan to take Earth so he could acquire the Gems already here.

I'm still hoping that the Eye of Agamotto ends up being the Reality Gem, which is how Doctor Strange performs "magic."

That would fit neatly into the MCU's "mythos."

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It would! I'm not sure what I'd like more - that they plan on doing this, or that magic is actually a thing!

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I find he idea of Thanos, and the Soul Gem, being in a storyline without Adam Warlock to be disheartening.

Shadow Lodge

Chris - did you see the after-credits scene in Guardians of the Galaxy?

Silver Crusade

That the Chitauri Scepter appears in the Infinity War teaser trailer is proof that the stone it bears is in fact an Infinity Stone... whether or not it is the Mind Gem, that remains to be seen.

All we do know for certain is that the Tesseract is the Space Stone and that the Orb from Guardians of the Galaxy is the Power Stone. The Aether and the stone in the scepter have been identified as being Infinity Stones, we just don't know officially which ones they are. Based on what we've seen, though, it would be reasonable to believe that the Aether is the Reality Stone and the Chitauri Scepter bears the Mind Stone, but that may not be where they decide to go with them.

Silver Crusade

I've come across several people who've asked this one question: "If the stone in the scepter is an Infinity Stone, why would Thanos give it to Loki?"

It's a good question... and I've thought long and hard about it. I think I may have an answer, but I want to run it past you all here.

In the lore of Marvel's comics, of all the Infinity gems, there was one that Thanos feared: the Soul Stone. He could have taken it from Adam Warlock on various occasions, but the Mad Titan didn't. Why, then, didn't he do so?

Because Thanos feared the possibility that he could forfeit his soul to the gem should he try to 'directly' acquire it.

Now, in the MCU, between the events of Thor and The Avengers, Loki somehow acquired the gem... think back to his conversation/report with The Other, Thanos' envoy.... Thanos gave Loki the scepter ('He who put the scepter in your hand') and taught him how to use it ('...gave you ancient knowledge and new purpose'). Like Captain America, most assumed that the Scepter was powered by the Tesseract. But that was perhaps the biggest red herring, because if you allow yourself to believe that the gem is nothing more than an extension of the Space Stone, then why didn't the Red Skull just build a machine to harness it's ability to mess with minds and take the world over that way? If it could have done that, I'm pretty sure he would have.

But he didn't because it couldn't.

Now sure, you could write it off to it just serving to amplify Loki's ability to screw with minds. But given how Loki used the stone in the movie to show those he touched it to different things, it could be that Loki was not tapping into his own tricks at all. He could have been using an ability inherent to the stone to show them the 'Cold Light of Truth'.

An ability possessed by the Soul Gem in the comics.

This is just a little bit. I'm sure that's there's more proof to shore this up. But tell me what you think.


Thanos wants to get the infinity stones, but doesn't seem to be in a big rush to do so.

In the case of Loki, I think his idea was that he would loan out one stone, and get both back after earth was conquered. Similarly, he sent out Ronan, a third party, to acquire the power stone.

If Thanos has no idea where most of the stones are, than he might be willing to be patient. At the moment, we know he knows or at least can guess the location of three of the stones, which is far from a complete set.

Alternatively, the Loki's scepter including a infinity stone was something not originally intended when the first Avengers was written, but it's being retconned as one to facilitate getting the infinity stones out their as fast as possible

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Question being, how in the hell are the Avengers, paired with The Guardians of the Galaxy gonna beat Thanos with the infinity gauntlet?


The problem I have with the sceptre being a separaate infinity gem is the colour. Just finished watching Guardians again and when the Collector is discussing the gems, they are shown, and only one stone was blue. Since the tesseract is a gem (shown in the Collector's description) and its blue, if the sceptre were another gem wouldn't it be a different colour?

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