What do you do when the GM is phoning it in?


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Sovereign Court 2/5

The question is what is it worth to have Kyle TPK you? J/K!!!

(grin!!!)

5/5

Well when you put it like that I would not. But that is because I am an extremely poor college student who would not be able to pay $14 to play at anybody's table.

I try my darnedest to make each table I ran better than the last one I did. As an opera singer I'm used to always trying to out do my last performance because the alternative is unacceptable.

I also wound up getting really high praise from the venture captain of Chicago and was really pleased that I had been able to give him a fun time at my table.

If a GM was phoning it in at a convention I would probably try and figure out if he was phoning in multiple games. If he was I would then email the coordinators. People who coordinate should know if some of their GMs don't try so that they can try to approach the problem.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

Deciding how many slots to run at a big convention like Gen Con is more than deciding what rewards you want. GMs have to know their limits. If they're like Todd Morgan, they can run 13 slots in 5 days and still show that last slot a good time. When I run at a convention, I look at it from a numbers perspective (Engineer, go figure). The 6 players at my table each paid $6 to play this 4 hour game. They paid $80 for their badge to play 10 slots worth of games (give or take). That's another $8 for my slot. Let's say each person earns $25 an hour in real life. High, low, whatever, I'm just picking an arbitrary number here. Let's do the math:

($6 + $8 + $25 * 5 (hrs)) * 6 (players) = $834

Is the game you run worth $834? Is it worth $139 (the price for each player). Is it even worth $14 or $84?

Even if you only look at as each player paying $14 for the privilege of playing at your table, is the game your running worth that? Is your effort worth that?! Would you pay $14 to play at your own table?

If you aren't better than a movie that you wouldn't pay $10 to watch, then the answer should be no.

But then again, most people aren't that self-realized.

3/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
I apply under a pseudonym. This year it was Findrew Christlanderboy.

Maybe I am vain, but this is my favorite thing I have seen from you.

I believe in almost everything in life. If you are not planning on doing a good job, don't do it.

I am a very rules are rules kind of player. My big GM gripe was that I had a GM refuse to look at the book to learn he was wrong.

As a side note Total defense is a standard action. Not a full round action. That I had to pull out three times.

The costs Kyle puts I apply to anything I spend money on. X dollar will net me y hours of z value entertainment.

To defend the DM also. Some players make it hard for a DM. IF I have a jerk at the table it is a lot harder for me to give the rest of the table a good time becuase I need to compose and contain. Just like any live entertainment the crowd(players) feed me as a DM. If I have players into their characters and being excited, well those emotions are contageous and I get the same.

The Exchange 5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

Deciding how many slots to run at a big convention like Gen Con is more than deciding what rewards you want. GMs have to know their limits. If they're like Todd Morgan, they can run 13 slots in 5 days and still show that last slot a good time. When I run at a convention, I look at it from a numbers perspective (Engineer, go figure). The 6 players at my table each paid $6 to play this 4 hour game. They paid $80 for their badge to play 10 slots worth of games (give or take). That's another $8 for my slot. Let's say each person earns $25 an hour in real life. High, low, whatever, I'm just picking an arbitrary number here. Let's do the math:

($6 + $8 + $25 * 5 (hrs)) * 6 (players) = $834

Is the game you run worth $834? Is it worth $139 (the price for each player). Is it even worth $14 or $84?

Even if you only look at as each player paying $14 for the privilege of playing at your table, is the game your running worth that? Is your effort worth that?! Would you pay $14 to play at your own table?

A year ago I payed over $200 to rent an event room in a local hotel, so that a local con would have an overflow room. So, I guess my answer to your last question is a yes. We got a large room - with three tables going in a room large enough for 6, for 16 hours... and they were great games! Lots of fun! Well worth it!

Would I do it again... yes. I think I would.

5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:

Deciding how many slots to run at a big convention like Gen Con is more than deciding what rewards you want. GMs have to know their limits. If they're like Todd Morgan, they can run 13 slots in 5 days and still show that last slot a good time. When I run at a convention, I look at it from a numbers perspective (Engineer, go figure). The 6 players at my table each paid $6 to play this 4 hour game. They paid $80 for their badge to play 10 slots worth of games (give or take). That's another $8 for my slot. Let's say each person earns $25 an hour in real life. High, low, whatever, I'm just picking an arbitrary number here. Let's do the math:

($6 + $8 + $25 * 5 (hrs)) * 6 (players) = $834

Is the game you run worth $834? Is it worth $139 (the price for each player). Is it even worth $14 or $84?

Even if you only look at as each player paying $14 for the privilege of playing at your table, is the game your running worth that? Is your effort worth that?! Would you pay $14 to play at your own table?

Kyle makes a good point, it's all about knowing yourself as a GM and knowing what you can realistically do. Part of knowing what you can do as a GM is also monitoring your activities at the con -- i.e. if you're going to GM every 8am slot, then going out drinking every night til 3 or 4am is probably not the best thing ** unless that's what you normally do and you know you can do it.

I think part of the issue with GMs wearing out by the end of the con is the amount of partying they do --- I've been known to do a bit myself, but if you have responsibilities it's about prioritizing and knowing when it's time to cut it off and go to bed

Grand Lodge 4/5

Matthew Pittard wrote:
Perhaps I should wait to play this until next Arcanacon. The GM I had for Blakros would be perfect for this Feast.

Who was this? I was keen to pass on the compliment to the GM.

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

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Your Predecessor!.. the one you deposed in that sadly bloodless coup :)

Through happenstance I happened to have him most sessions during that con. Great guy, although I think I annoyed him rattling off my Gunslinger damage. I particularly enjoyed Blakros because he had a great time with some of the characters and the Andoran mission was just the icing on the cake.

Its also one of the few times the scenario hasnt had a chance to end because it has run over time.

Scarab Sages 5/5

docbrown wrote:

The question is what is it worth to have Kyle TPK you? J/K!!!

(grin!!!)

If you are lucky he'll just feeblemind and dominate you instead.

Dark Archive 5/5 ** Regional Venture-Coordinator, Gulf

Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:


Kyle makes a good point, it's all about knowing yourself as a GM and knowing what you can realistically do. Part of knowing what you can do as a GM is also monitoring your activities at the con -- i.e. if you're going to GM every 8am slot, then going out drinking every night til 3 or 4am is probably not the best thing ** unless that's what you normally do and you know you can do it.

I think part of the issue with GMs wearing out by the end of the con is the amount of partying they do --- I've been known to do a bit myself, but if you have responsibilities it's about prioritizing and knowing when it's time to cut it off and go to bed

I will disagree on one point. I have never met a person who was a better judge after being up until 3AM. I am out having a beer to calm down after my midnight slot, but not until 3AM. I like a good drink, but I will schedule my morning off if I know it's going to happen.

Kyle is spot on about leaving it all on the table. Nobody ever said "he was a great judge, so quiet and reserved!" People are there to have fun, be fun.

4/5 ****

Mark Stratton wrote:


This. Right here. +1 on both of these, especially the second one. I told my table this was my first time running PFS at a con, and only like the 6th time in total. I indicated that I might blow a call here or there, but if I do, just point it out and we will move on. And that's what happened.

I'm up above 60 PFS tables and I still tell people this.

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

You still tell people that you're new to GMing?

;)

1/5

maybe it is like that drew barrymore movie where she forgets what happened every day when she wakes up

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