Feast of Sigils.


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Sczarni 1/5

1 person marked this as FAQ candidate.

I am placing Mike Brock's name in this one in the hope he scans for his name!

FAQ Request:
WARNING! This request involves a special chronicle sheet item, and I strongly discourage players who have not yet played this Scenario from reading the following.

Spoiler:
If this is played with a pre-generated character:
"Does the one year-real time effect granted by the wafer begin as of the date the Chronicle was earned, or is the one-year period tolled until the Chronicle is applied to the Character?"

Spoiler:

Explosive Runes! 20d20 ⇒ (4, 5, 20, 4, 16, 15, 13, 17, 11, 8, 12, 5, 17, 15, 1, 1, 18, 1, 20, 4) = 207

Dark Archive 4/5

Minor Spoiler for Feast of Sigils:
I will check the chronicle again when I get home, but the only date I recall on the sheet is the date of the event, so the count down would start from then.

Sovereign Court 4/5

Spoilerificus:
The text says "1 year from the date of this Chronicle sheet." Considering the only date recorded on a Chronicle sheet is the day of the game in which it was earned, I'm leaning towards the clock starts the day it's run, regardless of when it's applied.

The Exchange 2/5

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I would say that the wording on the chronicle is quite clear and leaves no room for doubt, although I would suggest that for this chronicle the month be written as a word rather than numerals - Avoids any US date format vs international date format issues.....

Sczarni 1/5

1 person marked this as FAQ candidate.

Chronicle wording:

Sigil Wafer: You ate a sigil wafer, the physical results of a Lissalan ritual containing a portion of an unwilling victim's could. This grants you a +2 profane bonus to one ability score of your choice and lasts one year from the date of this Chronicle Sheet. Denote the selected ability score below.

Ingesting a sigil wafer is an evil act that shifts your alignment one step toward evil unless you receive the benefits of an atonement spell. If such an alignment shift would result in an evil alignment, you may no longer play the character in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign.

Selected Ability Score ________________________________________________________________

Another nit picking detail I note about the wording is the very last sentence. There is no provision for if you get an atonement spell. It simply says you can no longer play in PFS. So if you are LN, NN, CN, and you eat the wafer . . . Poof! You are out!

IF you are LG, NG, CG, you go to LN, NN, CN, and can atone back up to your original alignment, but; and this is a Big but . . .

"If such an alignment shift would result in an evil alignment, you may no longer play the character in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign." [end of paragraph.]

No proviso, no addendum, no quid pro quo. Just if this would happen, you are out. Notice it says if WOULD happen, if it DOES happen. Even if you don't eat the wafer, eating the wafer WOULD shift you to evil territory. Bad bad bad.

Very painful wording for RAW. . . By plain language that means if you run a LN, NN, CN in this campaign, the character retires. Poof. Done.

Bad idea. So again, I ask for a FAQ on this issue as well.

Sovereign Court 4/5

That is a valid concern. In the scenario, however, it allows for atonement. It specifically says "should be given the opportunity to atone for such actions before the scenario’s conclusion if such an alignment shift would result in their removal from the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign." Another case of Chronicle and scenario not entirely syncing.

Sczarni 1/5

I do not have the scenario, I just played in it, so I cannot check the wording inside the scenario.

It is not unreasonable to expect that not all GMs or Players will have the Scenario i question, so they will be unable to show the wording of the scenario either; which could lead to very bad things. . . until they got sorted out later by someone having the scenario, or by posts to the board, and/or emails to Mr. Brock.

Sovereign Court 4/5

Aye, and the GM should have made it clear it could be cleared with a scenario. You are right, though, it should be repeated for players on the Chronicle sheet to prevent confusion. Just means we as GM's need to be on the ball.

Sczarni 1/5

Yep, although a FAQ for players to pull up would be nice!

5/5

Um...

Quote:
Ingesting a sigil wafer is an evil act that shifts your alignment one step toward evil unless you receive the benefits of an atonement spell. If such an alignment shift would result in an evil alignment, you may no longer play the character in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign.

Doesn't that tell you right there?

Sczarni 1/5

No, because as written, the second sentence, "If such an alignment shift would result in an evil alignment, you may no longer play the character in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign.", sets out an expresses exclusion from the rule you highlighted in the first sentence by using the word "would".

It does not say "does result" or simply "results, it expressly states that if the eating "would result", by definition "indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation" thus excluding what actually happens. Bad word choice? Definitely. Is that what it says regardless? Yes.

4/5 **

By the time a player gets a Chronicle, they will already know if they have been removed from the campaign or not. The wording is clear for the GM; as a player, if you got the Chronicle, you are obviously still in the campaign.

It's two weeks before GenCon, so Mike is probably a little busy, and this is pretty clear-cut. The scenario specifies that you can atone for it before the end of the scenario.

Sczarni 1/5

As an FYI, the correct pronunciation of this scenario is "Flock of Seagulls."

Shadow Lodge 4/5

So if you GM this for a group of higher level characters, and apply the chronicle to a lower level character, then the countdown starts immediately? Even though the character doesn't receive the benefits of the chronicle until they hit 7th level?

That seems... odd. At best, it's an encouragement to run/play more games and get the character to 7th within the year. At worst, it's punishing the GM for agreeing to run the game.

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