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Aren't Zorses smaller than even a Pony?
It's surprisingly hard to find that information online, but according to this a zorse's size is determined by the size of the mare that is bred to the zebra stallion, and will be about the size of a normal horse of her breed.

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beej67 wrote:Okay, here's a tougher question ..
Since the stigma of being a Half Elf stems in some form or fashion from DND literature from the 1970s, how much of it is rooted in a comparison to interracial marriages of the time? Nobody really thinks twice about interracial (black/white) unions today, at least not in most regions of the country, but back then it was a much bigger deal.
Maybe a little real-world sociology bleed-over perhaps?
Attitudes toward interacial couples vary widely among regions. While I live in an area that is fairly tolerant. I've visited areas that are much less so.
I think human/elven relationships very often resemble the positive stereotype in interacial relationships. Human and elves both 'good' races and is portrayed in some ways like as caucasian/asian wedding; grandpa from China might grumble into his cups but most of the people would be happy to see two middle class kids from the suburbs tie the knot.
This is reflected in some of the lit in D&D which shows loving interacial couples.
But just as often, human/elf relations are just as often portrayed as a one-off relationship leaving a single parent behind, which has it's own negitive stereotypes.
Then you think of the kids who aren't quite like other kids, and like ADHD/Aspergers analogy I made earlier comes into play. Such kids will 'be out of step' with their peers and as a consequence be in a position to be abused or be labeled as wrong/bad and generally have a harder time making their way in the world.On the other hand, the half orc resembles more of our dark side feelings toward interracial relationships. This is almost always portrayed as something simular to the stereotype of the n-word black from the the ghetto coming to ravish our precious little daughter, make her life a living hell, beat and abuse her and give her ugly wrong colored babies who won't be much better then him. Also, there is a healthy dose of Orcs/negros want human/white women that is very much in keeping with...
Quick thing I want to make clear; I'm describing these stereotypes/tropes. I want to make sure it's clear I'm not endorsing them

strayshift |
The other aspect here is that of the 'changeling', in folk tales faeries would often replace human babies with their own. These would often be ugly or have some sort of impairment. The norse would also ascribe negative traits to those with 'Troll-Blood' (note: NOT a D&D troll!)
Essentially these half-races carry some pretty deep folk-baggage, which the writers you are citing (especially Tolkien) drew upon. If you define elves through their older, darker, 'un-seelie' aspect then being of elf-blood would be something fairly sinister, probably leading to banishment or being an outcast.
How much of that is relevant to the game?
That's for the DM to decide.

phantom1592 |

Azaelas Fayth wrote:He was 88 when the War Of The Ring occurred.
He was simply descended from a line of Elf-Blooded Humans.
With a little bit of Maia mixed in from Melian.
Tolkien's actual Half-Elves aren't really anything like D&D's. Elrond and his children pretty much live as elves, with no characteristics of Men, other than the Choice they have to make.
Elros chose to be mortal, but got an extended life and seemed to share in some of the gifts of the Eldar. He, and his descendants and people, seem closer to D&D Half elves than Elrond does.
This...
I remember I had a half-elf character that I named from an elven dictionary of Elric "Peredhel" meaning Half-elf.
He was proud of his heritage despite the ridicule he got from it... KIND a touch of Tanis swiping there... but I thought it sounded cooler in Elven.
I was absolutely flabergasted when I found that ELROND's name was Elrond Peredhel, that he was 'half-elven...' AND that I had stumbled upon the vaunted Tolkien Elvish language dictionary...
I have had a LOT of fun with that over the years... ^_^
However it DID make me wonder about the lineage of tolkiens elves... Elrond was only half, yet he had a ring of power... where ANY of the Elves 'full blooded original elves'.... or were they all that were left of a once mighty people?
Hoped the simillarion would answer that, but still haven't gotten to that one.

thejeff |
thejeff wrote:Azaelas Fayth wrote:He was 88 when the War Of The Ring occurred.
He was simply descended from a line of Elf-Blooded Humans.
With a little bit of Maia mixed in from Melian.
Tolkien's actual Half-Elves aren't really anything like D&D's. Elrond and his children pretty much live as elves, with no characteristics of Men, other than the Choice they have to make.
Elros chose to be mortal, but got an extended life and seemed to share in some of the gifts of the Eldar. He, and his descendants and people, seem closer to D&D Half elves than Elrond does.
This...
I remember I had a half-elf character that I named from an elven dictionary of Elric "Peredhel" meaning Half-elf.
He was proud of his heritage despite the ridicule he got from it... KIND a touch of Tanis swiping there... but I thought it sounded cooler in Elven.
I was absolutely flabergasted when I found that ELROND's name was Elrond Peredhel, that he was 'half-elven...' AND that I had stumbled upon the vaunted Tolkien Elvish language dictionary...
I have had a LOT of fun with that over the years... ^_^
However it DID make me wonder about the lineage of tolkiens elves... Elrond was only half, yet he had a ring of power... where ANY of the Elves 'full blooded original elves'.... or were they all that were left of a once mighty people?
Hoped the simillarion would answer that, but still haven't gotten to that one.
Go read the Silmarillion. Or at least try. It's a different style and some don't enjoy it.
But the short answer is: All the elves other than Elrond and his children are "full blooded original elves".