PFS-legal natural attack upgrades

[kinevon]

Jiggy wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

What other entries from Additional Resources use the "not unless granted by another legal source" functionality, and how are those other legal sources set up in those cases?

The FAQ for animal companions/mounts for Paladins/Cavaliers/Rangers is set up as such.

You can access other animals that are otherwise illegal for those classes if another legal source grants you access to other animals.

Thanks! So to complete the example, what would be such a source, which grants other animal options to those classes?

Beast Rider archetype

Beast Master archetype
Falconer archetype

and I'm sure there are a few others.

Hrm, and it looks like AddRes doesn't specifically call out the mount options, just legalizes the archetypes.

Well, since I can't find the counterexamples that would almost definitely exist if my original understanding were correct, I guess I must've been wrong. Thanks for the info, Andy. :)

Actually, my search fu is non-existent right now, but IIRC, there was a post by Mike Brock confirming that ACs get access to the specific Bestiary feats listed in the Core write-up, and that Natural Weapon Rangers get access to the spcific Bestiary feats called out in that Ranger variant.

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kinevon wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

Jiggy wrote:

What other entries from Additional Resources use the "not unless granted by another legal source" functionality, and how are those other legal sources set up in those cases?

The FAQ for animal companions/mounts for Paladins/Cavaliers/Rangers is set up as such.

You can access other animals that are otherwise illegal for those classes if another legal source grants you access to other animals.

Thanks! So to complete the example, what would be such a source, which grants other animal options to those classes?

Beast Rider archetype

Beast Master archetype
Falconer archetype

and I'm sure there are a few others.

Hrm, and it looks like AddRes doesn't specifically call out the mount options, just legalizes the archetypes.

Well, since I can't find the counterexamples that would almost definitely exist if my original understanding were correct, I guess I must've been wrong. Thanks for the info, Andy. :)

Actually, my search fu is non-existent right now, but IIRC, there was a post by Mike Brock confirming that ACs get access to the specific Bestiary feats listed in the Core write-up, and that Natural Weapon Rangers get access to the spcific Bestiary feats called out in that Ranger variant.

I recall the same post, but differently.

That AC’s don’t get the feats, just as Additional Resources says, but that the Ranger with the Natural Weapons style does.

[teribithia9]

There are literally thousands of animal companion posts so I can't find the link either, but I asked when the wording changed to say "unless specifically granted by another legal source" if this meant animal companions could now take all of the feats on the animal companion feat list in the core rulebook and the answer was yes, because the core rulebook was another legal source granting access to those feats.

EDIT: found it

found the link

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This might be a good post to have up in the Compiled message board posts thread.