Peter Jackson's The Hobbit to be Made into a Trilogy


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Liberty's Edge

That's a good guess too (or do you actually know?) I was thinking the trolls would look more like the statues of the trolls shown in Fellowship of the Ring for continuity's sake.


The king of the goblins?

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I agree with Kajehase. It is the Great Goblin.


I don't have any evidence it is Bill Huggins.

I am pretty sure it will not be Beorn. In fact, I would be surprised if Beorn would be to included in the movies at all. I think he will probably be dropped (a la Tom Bombadil) with someone else taking over his parts (e.g. Gandalf striding in and killing the bodyguard of the great goblin and pulling Thorin out).

The great goblin was my initial thought, and still seems pretty likely.

I just don't see much evidence for what might be the trolls in that poster other than the image at the top. And given the fact that they did reference the trolls twice in the Fellowship (first time when Bilbo was recounting the episode at the birthday party and second in the extended edition when they found the trolls after Frodo had been stabbed), I would think the troll encounter will probably be a little more dramatic than what we read in the book.


Pretty sure they're going to keep Beorn in the movie, seeing as they cast Swedish actor and general douchebag Mikael Persbrandt to play him.

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I have seen pictures of Beorn's hall. It is full of oversized furniture to give it the scale for Bilbo and the dwarves eating there.

Hey, pres man, are you talking about Beorn rescuing Throin during the Battle of 5 Armies?

As for what the trolls look like, see HERE. This is the troll mockup from the 2012 San Diego Comic Con.


Then I would say it must be the great goblin.


pres man wrote:
In fact, I would be surprised if Beorn would be to included in the movies at all. I think he will probably be dropped (a la Tom Bombadil) with someone else taking over his parts (e.g. Gandalf striding in and killing the bodyguard of the great goblin and pulling Thorin out).

That would sadden me greatly...

Silver Crusade

The image is of Bolg, the orc chieftan, who led the forces in the Battle of the Five Armies.

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Liberty's Edge

Mystery solved I guess. I barely remember that character. Doesn't he only show up at the end of the book? Maybe they've beefed up his part since he's on the poster for the first movie.

The Exchange

I'm not digging how human Thorin looks, it is as if the executives said 'we need a hearthrob type, let's not make him look Dwarven at all. Can we cast a shorter Aragorn?"


Velcro Zipper wrote:
Mystery solved I guess. I barely remember that character. Doesn't he only show up at the end of the book? Maybe they've beefed up his part since he's on the poster for the first movie.

Bolg is the son of Azog, who killed Thror - Thorin's grand-daddy - prompting an orc-dwarf war that will last 9 years at the foot of Moria (which many suspect will be included in this extended Bilbo movie). They may have merged Bolg and Azog into one character(?)

Otherwise you are right, Bolg only comes at the end of The Hobbit during the Battle of Five Armies, where he is finally killed by Beorn.

In typical Tolkien style where battles use (comparatively) very words in the book (especially once Bilbo blacks-out), Bolg's participation in The Hobbit is modest at best. You can be sure that Hollywood will make a big deal about that battle however, and make good use of Bolg as the BBEG of the orc army.

'findel

Liberty's Edge

It's been close to 20 years since I read The Hobbit but that all sounds familiar now that you mention it. They gave a fairly big part to the orc, Lurtz, in the Fellowship movie too even though the character isn't even in the books so I guess it follows suit. I like it. It gives otherwise forgettable villains a little more dimension before they get splattered.


Mikael Persbrandt Speaks About Getting Into The Character Of Beorn .

Liberty's Edge

I found a pic of Persbrandt in his Beorn getup.


Velcro Zipper wrote:
I found a pic of Persbrandt in his Beorn getup.

That's just mean, Zipper. :(

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Laurefindel wrote:
Velcro Zipper wrote:
Mystery solved I guess. I barely remember that character. Doesn't he only show up at the end of the book? Maybe they've beefed up his part since he's on the poster for the first movie.

Bolg is the son of Azog, who killed Thror - Thorin's grand-daddy - prompting an orc-dwarf war that will last 9 years at the foot of Moria (which many suspect will be included in this extended Bilbo movie). They may have merged Bolg and Azog into one character(?)

Otherwise you are right, Bolg only comes at the end of The Hobbit during the Battle of Five Armies, where he is finally killed by Beorn.

In typical Tolkien style where battles use (comparatively) very words in the book (especially once Bilbo blacks-out), Bolg's participation in The Hobbit is modest at best. You can be sure that Hollywood will make a big deal about that battle however, and make good use of Bolg as the BBEG of the orc army.

'findel

Ditto for the screen time of Gothmog, who is mentioned only once in RotK in passing as the Witch-King's second in command, but has a good bit of screen time during the attacks on Osgiliath and Minas Tirith.

I'm sure the villains will get some good foreshadowing screen time as lead-up to big battle scenes.


and by Hollywood I mean New-Zealand of course...

or "Kiwiwood", or whatever it is called.

I still have mixed feelings about this whole "let's expand The Hobbit to everything that pertains to Bilbo and his companions", but I admit that I'm actually more curious (and cautious) about Peter Jackson's portrayal of the "off-stage" action mentioned in the Hobbit than Bilbo's journey in itself.

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