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so then it wasnt a case of "NO ONE questioned his right to run for president", just the media. All this hyperbole gets us nowhere. To say that no one questioned him is very disingenious. Let go of the whole Left-Right paradigm. Both sides are the exact same. Both sides do the exact same thing. It's ok to refer to Tea Party members as Tea Baggers but if a member of the Tea Party says something offensive, then all of a sudden its "What the lump!?! Theyre ALL rascists/fascists/homophobes/kitten eaters/Neonazis!!!" Not really conducive to any converstaion, in my book.
But hey whatever, No one questioned it then, dont let any facts get in anyone's way and we can continue this game where everyone is wrong.
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America has changed in two major ways since 9/11. First, the securitocracy, second, the wars. It may be there was a time when wars brought the winning nation enough spoils to make it worthwhile, even though I doubt it, but this time isn't one
Ok, you don't understand how to make money off of a war.
Please get your white cat, doomsday device and swivel chair. Its time for BNW's lessons on how to be evil.
It does not matter if AMERICA makes money on a war. It only matters that YOU, the individual, corporation, company, or stock holder, make money on the war.
America, by and large, does not make decisions based on whats best for America. Senators and congressmen are not elected by the nation, they are elected by the people in their state/district. As long as things are going well there the person maintains their say in government, no matter how bad their decisions are to the country as a whole.
So if for example, boeing is making a wickedly expensive new fighter jet in a factory in Middle of Nowhere Nebraska. It doesn't matter if this thing is a flying heap of junk that couldn't out fly a grand piano. The senators from Nebraska, and the representative of Middle of Nowhere, don't want to loose jobs (because that looses elections) so they're going to vote for the plane no matter what.
Ahah, you say, but that's only one state? How could that possibly give you the power to pass legislation?
The trick is that you build the plane in PARTS all over the country and then ship them together. 17 States if i recall correctly, giving you enough people in favor of your proposition to wrangle a deal. Those 34 senators and 17 representatives can find other senators in similar positions and bundle bills, so senator B votes for senator A's plane and senator A votes for senator's B Body armor suppliers.
So, how to profit off of this system.
Iraq has the largest untapped reserves of usable oil in the world*. If you are an oil company the chance to get Iraqi oil flowing into your company is the last relatively unexplored frontier for making major moola. No one oil company however, has enough clout to get a war to open up the markets. What the american and british oil companies did was basically divide iraq up like a turkey deciding who gets to control what
Now, how are decisions in the US government made? Based on who will win elections. So what the oil companies do is put millions of dollars into getting the right candidates elected. Cheney is a perfect example of this. He's an oil company CEO with millions in stock. If the oil companies do well, he makes millions (as opposed to 227,000 dollar salary from us)
Cheney ingratiated himself as the funneling point for intelligence. The intelligence went to him, and was "interpreted" by him before going on to the president. Cheney Steered the intelligence towards saying "Iraq has WMD's and is an immediate threat" so that's what the president acted on. That gets America into war, which opens up the oil for control by American companies.
Oil company: Spends millions on elections, effectively rents 100's of billions of dollars worth of military, makes billions in profit.
Cheney: Spends millions on election, makes hundreds of millions in profit
Senators: Spend hundreds of billions of our tax dollars on a war, but get millions in campaign contributions to keep their jobs.
American people: Loose hundreds of billions and thousands of soliders lives.
Iraqi people: loose a HUNDRED THOUSAND dead.
So, in short, you do not go to war to make money as a nation. You go to war to benefit the people making decisions for that nation, and rely on people's stubborn belief in the face of facts to keep them believing that the two are still one and the same (and always have been)
Next time, we'll cover how to make this sociopathic behavior seem like a virtue by painting the indigent and poor that don't engage in it as the reason for their own failure. Until next time, stay evil.
*that is fiesable to get at profitably given current tech.
so then it wasnt a case of "NO ONE questioned his right to run for president", just the media. All this hyperbole gets us nowhere.
Fine, there was no massive movement that SERIOUSLY questioned his right to run. Are you happy now?
To say that no one questioned him is very disingenuous.
I don't consider a joke that was never taken seriously to be questioning his right to run at all.
Let go of the whole Left-Right paradigm. Both sides are the exact same.
I used to think that. Then I lived through the bush years. Both sides have their malarky, but that doesn't make them the same. E tu fallacy.
Both sides do the exact same thing. It's ok to refer to Tea Party members as Tea Baggers
1) They gave the name to themselves
2) Its comedy gold. Don't take it personally its just freaking hilarious. I don't know of anyone that thinks they're actually engaging in that activity.but if a member of the Tea Party says something offensive, then all of a sudden its "What the lump!?! Theyre ALL rascists/fascists/homophobes/kitten eaters/Neonazis!!!" Not really conducive to any converstaion, in my book.
How much more specifically do i have to raise the possibility of a fallacy of composition resulting from those signs before its apparant to you that the most disingenuous thing being said here is your above statement?
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...which was one part of my point. Thank you for expanding on it for me, BNW. I did say that there would be happy times for military and security subcontractors, didn't I?
The problem is, as I said, that the securitocracy slows the wheels of business, and the wars drain needed resources from making America competitive. Both parties prolong and worsen the problems. Whither America?
so then it wasnt a case of "NO ONE questioned his right to run for president", just the media. All this hyperbole gets us nowhere.
Fine, there was no massive movement that SERIOUSLY questioned his right to run. Are you happy now?
Whatever you prefer, dont let facts get in the way that both sides played the exact same game.
To say that no one questioned him is very disingenuous.
I don't consider a joke that was never taken seriously to be questioning his right to run at all.
Let go of the whole Left-Right paradigm. Both sides are the exact same.
I used to think that. Then I lived through the bush years. Both sides have their malarky, but that doesn't make them the same. E tu fallacy.
What is it specifically is it that the left is doing that Bush didnt also do? Illegal wars? check. crony corporatism? check. i used to think that too. Then I lived through the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama years. Now I KNOW it to be true. cue some not really latin to appear smart.
Both sides do the exact same thing. It's ok to refer to Tea Party members as Tea Baggers
1) They gave the name to themselves
2) Its comedy gold. Don't take it personally its just freaking hilarious. I don't know of anyone that thinks they're actually engaging in that activity.but if a member of the Tea Party says something offensive, then all of a sudden its "What the lump!?! Theyre ALL rascists/fascists/homophobes/kitten eaters/Neonazis!!!" Not really conducive to any converstaion, in my book.
How much more specifically do i have to raise the possibility of a fallacy of composition resulting from those signs before its apparant to you that the most disingenuous thing being said here is your above statement?
Those two quotes were supposed to be all one sentence, but since it only prves your point to take it apart, fine. First, citation on the Tea-bagger thing, please? Secondly, why should anyone take you seriously if you call them tea-baggers? That'll change some minds. Maybe the guy with the sign with the Kenyan thing thought it was hilarious too? Does that make it ok then?
which was one part of my point. Thank you for expanding on it for me, BNW. I did say that there would be happy times for military and security subcontractors, didn't I?
Yes, but i think you missed the cause/effect aspect of it.
You're a security company. 9 11 happens. You didn't cause it*, its sad, but what it means is that your business is going to greatly increase. You're profiting from a bad situation, which isn't immoral.
Iraq on the other hand was CAUSED by corporate interests. They got people killed and cost American taxpayers trillions of dollars** ON PURPOSE because it would make them money. Huge difference.
Whither America?
The sad thing is that this is nothing new for America. We fought wars to snag land from the Indians, swiped florida from spain, and chunks of the south west from mexico. We invaded south america on behalf of united fruit. We're kind of use to this.
The decline of America, if/when it comes, will be because our rise wasn't entirely our doing. After world war II we were simply the only world power with factories that weren't rubble and farms that weren't covered in lead. Other countries have recovered, and formerly third world nations are building up to our level and learning from our mistakes.
Baring a meteor strike or Yellowstone going kaboom we're always going to be A power but this deal with us being THE power can't go on forever.
*unless you believe the 911 conspiracy theorists. Frankly i think they're nuttier than squirrel poo.
** Current cost is estimated around a trillion, but we're going to be paying for some very expensive care and treatment for our troops for the next 40 years.
America has changed in two major ways since 9/11. First, the securitocracy, second, the wars. It may be there was a time when wars brought the winning nation enough spoils to make it worthwhile, even though I doubt it, but this time isn't oneOk, you don't understand how to make money off of a war.
Please get your white cat, doomsday device and swivel chair. Its time for BNW's lessons on how to be evil.
It does not matter if AMERICA makes money on a war. It only matters that YOU, the individual, corporation, company, or stock holder, make money on the war.
America, by and large, does not make decisions based on whats best for America. Senators and congressmen are not elected by the nation, they are elected by the people in their state/district. As long as things are going well there the person maintains their say in government, no matter how bad their decisions are to the country as a whole.
So if for example, boeing is making a wickedly expensive new fighter jet in a factory in Middle of Nowhere Nebraska. It doesn't matter if this thing is a flying heap of junk that couldn't out fly a grand piano. The senators from Nebraska, and the representative of Middle of Nowhere, don't want to loose jobs (because that looses elections) so they're going to vote for the plane no matter what.
Ahah, you say, but that's only one state? How could that possibly give you the power to pass legislation?
The trick is that you build the plane in PARTS all over the country and then ship them together. 17 States if i recall correctly, giving you enough people in favor of your proposition to wrangle a deal. Those 34 senators and 17 representatives can find other senators in similar positions and bundle bills, so senator B votes for senator A's plane and senator A votes for senator's B Body armor suppliers.
So, how to profit off of this system.
Iraq has the largest untapped reserves of usable oil in the world*. If you are an oil company the chance to get Iraqi oil flowing into your company...
Couldn't agree more. That's crony corporatism and its something that Ive noticed many Tea Partiers rally against. Ending the illegal wars/humanitarian missions/no-fly zones is very important for so many reasons as youve illustrated above.
And once again just as a fact check, way more than One Hundered Thousand Iraqi civilians have died, once you include Gulf War 1, the starvation caused by the economic sanctions, and the numerous bombing runs between the Gulf War 1 and 2. (at least 655,000- to upwards of 7.1 million!!)source
Whatever you prefer, dont let facts get in the way that both sides played the exact same game.
Side A throws a tomato at side B
Side B shows up with a tractor trailer mounted pumpkin launcher and hurls the entire contents of a grocery store at side A.
They're both throwing fruit!
Let go of the whole Left-Right paradigm. Both sides are the exact same.
Its not a matter of left right. Its a matter of a blurb from one week that made me laugh so hard i spilled milk out my nose just didn't stick out in my mind nearly as well as 4 years of constant harping on the same malarky.
What is it specifically is it that the left is doing that Bush didnt also do? Illegal wars? check. crony corporatism? check. i used to think that too. Then I lived through the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama years. Now I KNOW it to be true.
Lets compare illegal wars: Iraq: 4,000 american dead. Libya ....?
Obama lost money on solar panels. Cheney lost lives stealing iraq's oil.cue some not really latin to appear smart.
Ok, on that note goodbye. Your level of attempting to fine disingenuous things nit picking others are saying has gotten disingenuous.
Whatever you prefer, dont let facts get in the way that both sides played the exact same game.Side A throws a tomato at side B
Side B shows up with a tractor trailer mounted pumpkin launcher and hurls the entire contents of a grocery store at side A.They're both throwing fruit!
have you considered that maybe it is because one side won?
Let go of the whole Left-Right paradigm. Both sides are the exact same.Its not a matter of left right. Its a matter of a blurb from one week that made me laugh so hard i spilled milk out my nose just didn't stick out in my mind nearly as well as 4 years of constant harping on the same malarky
see above
What is it specifically is it that the left is doing that Bush didnt also do? Illegal wars? check. crony corporatism? check. i used to think that too. Then I lived through the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama years. Now I KNOW it to be true.Lets compare illegal wars: Iraq: 4,000 american dead. Libya ....?
Obama lost money on solar panels. Cheney lost lives stealing iraq's oil.
Do not forget that all deaths post 2009 are due to the Obama administration. So I would have to say that Obama has lost more than some money on solar panels (hell, by staying in Iraq, He is HELPING Cheney steal oil!). Libya may not have cost any AMERICAN lives yet, but it is most certainly only for the benefit of the military industial complex. It certainly does NOT have anything to do whatsoever with national security. (just like Dubya's wars, or Clinton in Kosovo/Iraq/Afghanistan, or Bush I in Iraq, or Reagan in Panama/Nicuaraga/Granada) Tell me again how they are not the same?
cue some not really latin to appear smart.Ok, on that note goodbye. Your level of attempting to fine disingenuous things nit picking others are saying has gotten disingenuous.
So you get my point now, that being overtly dickish doesnt lead to any meaningful conversation?
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As for other taxes, payroll taxes cover 5.7%, another 20% income (after deductions) to federal income, another 3% state income tax, a high property tax bill (local tax) working out to about 8% of income, and 7.5% sales tax (there is no federal VAT). Now a lot of that (sales tax, property tax, excise taxes on gas, state income tax) depends on where in the country I choose to live, because it varies between states.
Social security, medicare and medicaid should definitely go on there as taxes, since they're taken out of a paycheck the same way and added to the general fund the same way. Factor those in and those of us at the bottom are paying nearly European level taxes for American level government services.
once again proof that americans are the ONLY people stupid enough to pay taxes for no benefits...
did you pay for university?
did you pay for health care?
did you pay to drive on a rode?
did you paty to go fishing?
did you pay to BUY GAS?
did you pay to ride transit?
did you pay to.....?
yes, you did? so why do you pay taxes? Why do americans pay tax for no advantage? I get it...our tax is low? but it isn't 0. verybody under 30 knows social secrutiy is impossible for out generation.
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I have no idea what point HarbinNick is trying to make.
I have no idea why people even bother trying to have a discussion on this thread. The majority of people here already have their notion that "their" side is right. I doubt any amount of arguing is going to change that.
I guess that could apply to any political discussion actually.And yet I keep coming back. Like a train wreck. :)
I have no idea what point HarbinNick is trying to make.
He's listing all the reasons Greece has gone bankrupt...
Oh, the benefit we get for our taxes: the biggest military in the world, by a long shot. Shows where our priorities are.
With the largest collection of privatized prisons in the world, housing by far the largest prison population in the world (both per capita and in absolute numbers). And that's still a major growth industry. There's a lot of money to be made in railroading ordinary citizens into prisons.
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Oh, the benefit we get for our taxes: the biggest military in the world, by a long shot. Shows where our priorities are.With the largest collection of privatized prisons in the world, housing by far the largest prison population in the world (both per capita and in absolute numbers). And that's still a major growth industry. There's a lot of money to be made in railroading ordinary citizens into prisons.
That food, Medical devices and movies.
That food, Medical devices and movies.
All that, and state-sponsored rape and mandatory gang membership to boot! What a deal!
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." (That was President Eisenhower, writing to his brother Edgar in 1954.)
Absolutely beautiful.
And absolutely terrifying how large that stupid splinter has grown.
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"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." (That was President Eisenhower, writing to his brother Edgar in 1954.)Absolutely beautiful.
And absolutely terrifying how large that stupid splinter has grown.
Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?
Glad HD can't read this crap yet.
On the contrary, it would be good to get some straight talk about these things.
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then you didnt scroll down to the links. unless you count MSNBC/ Wall Street Journal/CBS News/ABC News/Times of London/etc as no one.Yes, i did. Some tongue in cheek "Ha, take some of your own medicine old man" is not the same as unending constant bombardment, hues, cries, and constant LITERAL PARADES of people denouncing Obama as kenyan born, even after he was elected. It isn't the same thing, it isn't in the same ballpark, its not even playing the same sport.
How can I agree with you so much in some threads and so little in others :)
Well said, sir.
Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?
Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.
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I have no idea what point HarbinNick is trying to make.
That all of these things only exist because of government.
Without government we have Somalia and Afghanistan.
Obviously all things in moderation, with proper checks and balances and the like, but lets not pretend that the invisible hand is benevolent, even Adam Smith didn't believe that if you actually read what he wrote.
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Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.
A lot of people are very angry. And when people are angry, they like to have someone to be angry at.
The Right is much better at it than the Left.
Not that Al Sharpton doesn't try...
Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.A lot of people are very angry. And when people are angry, they like to have someone to be angry at.
The Right is much better at it than the Left.
Not that Al Sharpton doesn't try...
Agreed.
Like the article says, the Right hates, the Left fears.
Honestly, I would say the splinter has grown to the size of the GOP. Not meaning anything bad about any particular member (or constituency), but they tow the party line to a T no matter what it is. And the party line has become exactly what the article outlines--hate Obama, hate minorities, hate the poor/unemployed, hate immigrants/foreigners, hate non-Christians.
Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.A lot of people are very angry. And when people are angry, they like to have someone to be angry at.
The Right is much better at it than the Left.
Not that Al Sharpton doesn't try...
Agreed.
Like the article says, the Right hates, the Left fears.
Honestly, I would say the splinter has grown to the size of the GOP. Not meaning anything bad about any particular member (or constituency), but they tow the party line to a T no matter what it is. And the party line has become exactly what the article outlines--hate Obama, hate minorities, hate the poor/unemployed, hate immigrants/foreigners, hate non-Christians.
Once again I have to disagree. There are republicans who voted against the war in Iraq. There are republicans who voted against the latest extension of the Patriot Act. There are republicans who are against the highly rascist war on drugs. If you had said the majority of republicans are all that, I would have probably agreed with you, but by no means do they all tow the party line to a T. Remember the Tea Movement of 2010? Alot of them took on opponents from both sides of the aisle. It seems to me that the Tea Party is actually fracturing the republican party, not causing it to march in lockstep. Case in point is the last debt ceiling: many of the old republicans wanted to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts only and many other Tea Party members did not want to raise the debt ceiling at all, for anything.
And as my link above about the 2006 debt ceiling shows, Democrats are pretty good at towing the party line from time to time as well.
Off topic-- what are the punctuation rules for political parties? Are they capitalised or no? ( for example: is it republican or Republican? I dont know and it bugs me.)
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One of the biggest weaknesses of the movement, in my opinion. When you lack a centralized structure, you open yourself up to people running off with your message and creating confusing situations as referenced above with ancient sensei.
Off topic-- what are the punctuation rules for political parties? Are they capitalised or no? ( for example: is it republican or Republican? I dont know and it bugs me.),
The names of political parties are proper nouns, so they are capitalized.If you're referring to the Republican Party, you'd capitalize it. If you're referring to the republican form of government, it's lowercased.
I capitalize the Tea Party myself, but it's more personal preference. When I see tea party used now-a-days, I'm pretty sure folks aren't talking about Alice and her friends sitting down for some tea, at a party. So I prefer to capitalize it.
Others disagree, and point out since the Tea Party has no "no officers, no headquarters, no letterhead" it's not an official party (so isn't a proper noun).
Thanks, Andy!
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One of the biggest weaknesses of the movement, in my opinion. When you lack a centralized structure, you open yourself up to people running off with your message and creating confusing situations as referenced above with ancient sensei.
“If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it.”
-Sun Tzu
Once again I have to disagree. There are republicans who voted against the war in Iraq. There are republicans who voted against the latest extension of the Patriot Act. There are republicans who are against the highly rascist war on drugs. If you had said the majority of republicans are all that, I would have probably agreed with you, but by no means do they all tow the party line to a T. Remember the Tea Movement of 2010? Alot of them took on opponents from both sides of the aisle. It seems to me that the Tea Party is actually fracturing the republican party, not causing it to march in lockstep. Case in point is the last debt ceiling: many of the old republicans wanted to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts only and many other Tea Party members did not want to raise the debt ceiling at all, for anything.
I think we can agree there are always exceptions.
How would you define the splinter?
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Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.
I think we have long sense came to the conclusion that your work environment is filled with nonsense and Non sequiturs galore. You should really try and find another place to work. It woudl do so much for your blood pressure. Also if your cousins friends are such, maybe he is hanging out with the wrong crowd. Or it could be just New Mexico.
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Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.A lot of people are very angry. And when people are angry, they like to have someone to be angry at.
The Right is much better at it than the Left.
Not that Al Sharpton doesn't try...
Agreed.
Like the article says, the Right hates, the Left fears.
Honestly, I would say the splinter has grown to the size of the GOP. Not meaning anything bad about any particular member (or constituency), but they tow the party line to a T no matter what it is. And the party line has become exactly what the article outlines--hate Obama, hate minorities, hate the poor/unemployed, hate immigrants/foreigners, hate non-Christians.
What was that part you wrote about fear? They make medications for that.
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Once again I have to disagree. There are republicans who voted against the war in Iraq. There are republicans who voted against the latest extension of the Patriot Act. There are republicans who are against the highly rascist war on drugs. If you had said the majority of republicans are all that, I would have probably agreed with you, but by no means do they all tow the party line to a T. Remember the Tea Movement of 2010? Alot of them took on opponents from both sides of the aisle. It seems to me that the Tea Party is actually fracturing the republican party, not causing it to march in lockstep. Case in point is the last debt ceiling: many of the old republicans wanted to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts only and many other Tea Party members did not want to raise the debt ceiling at all, for anything.I think we can agree there are always exceptions.
How would you define the splinter?
I know you didn't as me, however: As the exception.
Honestly the Republican party has no central voice, the media is making the "tea party" out as that voice. It is not. They, and the rest of us, better hope that this "wish" does not come true.
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American Media 101
Step 1: Realize mediocrity does not get ratings
Step 2: Find a commentator with extreme viewpoints that causes controversy because thats more interesting
Step 3: Ignore all media news except the extreme fringes and paint that as the mainstream viewpoint of a political movement or party
Step 4: Cause as much division in public opinion controversy = RATINGS!!!
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American Media 101
Step 1: Realize mediocrity does not get ratings
Step 2: Find a commentator with extreme viewpoints that causes controversy because thats more interesting
Step 3: Ignore all media news except the extreme fringes and paint that as the mainstream viewpoint of a political movement or party
Step 4: Cause as much division in public opinion controversy = RATINGS!!!
I'm quite certain that underpants belong in there someplace...
I think we have long sense came to the conclusion that your work environment is filled with nonsense and Non sequiturs galore. You should really try and find another place to work. It woudl do so much for your blood pressure. Also if your cousins friends are such, maybe he is hanging out with the wrong crowd. Or it could be just New Mexico.Has it really, or has the media perception of the "stupid splinter" been blown out of all proportion, to you know get more viewership or sell more stories?Most of the people I work with are members of that splinter -- and seemingly the entire state of New Mexico, judging from my cousin's bajillion Facebook friends.
Funny, I always associated New Mexico with Hippyville. Communes made entirely of earthships. People doing rain dances outside their adobe homes. And the Roswell crowd...
I take it this is just my imagination?
How would you define the splinter?I know you didn't as me, however: As the exception.
Honestly the Republican party has no central voice, the media is making the "tea party" out as that voice. It is not. They, and the rest of us, better hope that this "wish" does not come true.
Agreed on the last point. I hope you're right about the rest.
Do you think the core of the Republican party is still the party of Eisenhower? If so, why don't they act like it in congress? Or are they distinct from the general republican public?
Where are the Eisenhower republican presidential/congressional candidates?
Glad HD can't read this crap yet.
You don't think he would pop a fuse?
No; in my experience he's quick to stir up trouble on random political threads or whatever just for the fun of it, but he's always talked pretty frankly about his personal experiences, without any wailing or gnashing of teeth.
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Where are the Eisenhower republican presidential/congressional candidates?
Huntsman.
No; in my experience he's quick to stir up trouble on random political threads or whatever just for the fun of it, but he's always talked pretty frankly about his personal experiences, without any wailing or gnashing of teeth.
Yeah, he was fun. Is fun. And shall be fun again!