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Aberzombie wrote:
Good morning FAWTLY Folk! Kingmaker Saturday! At least later on tonight it will be.

But..It's MY Kingmaker Saturday! We can't have them at the same time..can we? Can Verlandia(my Kingmaker) exist in the same world as (insert the name of your Kingmaker here)?!??!!?!


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Egad! Realities are encroaching upon each other and my clothes have been obliterated as a result!!!


Nah, you just left your clothes in the other world.


Ok, going to trim the beard and then off for the birthday party...


Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I just don't get the appeal of drinking and drugs. I guess I just have this weird thing about being in control of my actions and remembering what I did last night.
That's why I am perfectly willing to say enough when drinking if I feel I had enough and stop instead of pouring alcohol until I drop unconscious. In fact I never passed out from alcohol intake. I was always taking a break before came to that.

And good on you for that. The few times I've tried a drink, I did not like the very slight buzz I got, and the stuff didn't really taste good enough to overcome the NOPE reaction. Doesn't smell that great, either. So I avoid it and try to avoid being in places where it's a thing.


Ragadolf wrote:

Sounds great!

Have fun Pat! :D

+1


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Of course, that's when your well-meaning friends and family try to get you into such environments.

"Well if you don't want to be here/drink, why'd you even come to the party?"
"Because you made me; can I go home now?"


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Freehold DM wrote:

*sigh*

Is there noone who doesn't smoke pot anymore?

Yup. Most definitely.


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Jeez, I'm grumpy before I get breakfast. I'm normally not this bitter until I've been awake awhile.


I found a few alcohols/drinks that were tasty enough for me but most of the time I avoid alcohol completely. I find the buzz rather irritating and deeper level of intoxication is completely unfun to me. Why would like I deliberately subject myself to state so similar to locomotion sickness bout?


Scintillae wrote:
I just don't get the appeal of drinking and drugs. I guess I just have this weird thing about being in control of my actions and remembering what I did last night.

I love an occasional glass of port or something equally heady, but I can count the number of times I've drank to excess(and McDonalds I am no longer allowed in) on one hand.


Freehold DM wrote:
I also met a woman who was easily 6'6".

Wow!


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

*sigh*

Is there noone who doesn't smoke pot anymore?

Yup. Most definitely.

*shrug*

I am in the no alcohol camp, mainly for the hangovers (I am useless for a day after drinking usually). That and I have never really liked the taste all that much (if I do drink, I usually do Budweiser, because I can't really tell the difference.) Also, I have a bad buzz line that goes from sober to wasted easily, and with little warning. And I tend to pass out hard. Like scribble on face by drunken friends hard.

I prefer the more herbal intoxicants. Mellower buzz, no hangover, and I am able to go about my business in a simulatedly sober manner if neccessary. Plus it stimulates my creativity.


I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

Sounds great!

Have fun Pat! :D

+1

Thanks all. I gotta get ready, just Dled a bunch of PDFs in case the Communerd and the high-class orc wanna game some PF. Now I just got to find a suitable module for 8th level badasses.


And now I've done gone put myself in a mood. Guess I'm statting NPCs to try and kill people then.


Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I just don't get the appeal of drinking and drugs. I guess I just have this weird thing about being in control of my actions and remembering what I did last night.

That's why I am perfectly willing to say enough when drinking if I feel I had enough and stop instead of pouring alcohol until I drop unconscious. In fact I never passed out from alcohol intake. I was always taking a break before came to that.

Also, the fact that I reach the phase of vomiting before I come anywhere close to passing out helps for self-control.


I think I may have marked down too many, setting needing them or no.


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Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.

I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.


And I still need more for the other areas of the dungeon...


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.
I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.

...This explains high school.


At least I've found a very definitive sidestep to people asking me about kids.

Gleefully mishandle something fragile while they ask. They can't help pretending it's a baby. That and cannibalism jokes. The questions stop real quick.


I don't mind kids. Kids are great. Once they're older and trained. I want to teach them, not raise them.


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Scintillae wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.
I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.
...This explains high school.

Unfortunately, that explains human existance down to the death rattle.


I simply think I'd be a very bad candidate for successfully molding a human with my genetics into something socially acceptable.


I was strict teetotaler from age of 14 or 15 to somewhere around 24, with a sip of champagne on a few different occasions. Later people found me a few drinks passable in taste enough for me. It also involved getting drunk a few times which allowed me to approximate some of my limits in this area.

Oh, and the fact that I started going for a drink with woman I loved seriously increased my alcohol intake (i.e. from 0 to actually drinking).


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.
I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.
...This explains high school.

Unfortunately, that explains human existance down to the death rattle.

Yeah, but it really starts in high school. The world just can't move on from that.


In that light, what does it say that going back to middle/high school is an end goal for me?


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.
I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.
...This explains high school.

Unfortunately, that explains human existance down to the death rattle.

Misery loves companionship. Also, people hate when other choices than their are shown to be perfectly viable, perfectly sensible and their way is not the only true rightful way...


The number of times I've confused people with that.

"And you're almost done with school!"
"Nope, never getting out if all goes well."
"Change your major again?"
"Nope. Teaching license."


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Most of them are also (probably) biologically incapable of understanding that something that is fun to them is not fun to others.


Scintillae wrote:
And apparently that makes me a wet blanket.

It depends. One can be the "pass" part of the "puff puff pass" equation, but if you come off as someone who is trying to dictate or regulate another's good time, it can make things awkward.


I've also confused people with the second major, too.

"So what are you studying?"
"Dead people."
"...I didn't know we had a mortuary science department."
"We don't. History."


Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.

Beats me. Tim's wife is a tea totaler, and Diane rarely drinks anymore so we have DDs.

Blessed be the DDs! :)


I went from high school nerd to collegate party animal. I operate much better as a nerd. Many of my (continuing) problems with getting a decent job span from the 4 years of college wasted followed by six years of of partying/menial jobs.


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Scintillae wrote:
I simply think I'd be a very bad candidate for successfully molding a human with my genetics into something socially acceptable.

Socially acceptable is vastly over rated.


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Scintillae wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I guess I've just had the "But you're old enough to drink, why don't you" conversation too often with friends and family. I note they never ask why I don't smoke, and it only took years to get them to stop asking why I don't date. So why does "Because I don't want to" work on everything but drinking? I'm not stopping them from doing it.
I find that drinkers want others to drink. Kind of like how people having kids want others to procreate. Or sports fans insist you get as fired up about their hobby as they do. It's the herd instinct. And I think the fact that you reject their 'fun' disquiets them somehow, and makes their choices seem suboptimal.
...This explains high school.

Unfortunately, that explains human existance down to the death rattle.

Yeah, but it really starts in high school. The world just can't move on from that.

LOL. The 70-80 year-olds that frequent my bakery have cliques, gossip, and drama. It's how humans are hardwired.


Scintillae wrote:
In that light, what does it say that going back to middle/high school is an end goal for me?

That you want to be an influence in what tends to be one of the most important times in the lives of others.


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It basically comes down to the more time I spend being social with people, the less I see the appeal of it.


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So either I'm not familiar with the right people and therefore need to go meet more or just need to be a hermit.

And one of those options doesn't require the minefield of "It's ok to be yourself...as long as you do everything peer pressure demands."


Drejk wrote:
Most of them are also (probably) biologically incapable of understanding that something that is fun to them is not fun to others.

There may be something to this,actually. A study was done not too long ago that showed that the human brain sometimes translates ideas that truly go against the hearer's grain as actual pain. According to the findings, it is a phenomenon that gets more acute as we get older. It may be why kids arguing with parents gets more pronounced as both age, along with why teachers and students(or other fields where younger people are made to be around older people as a matter of course) are eternally at odds.


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Scintillae wrote:
It basically comes down to the more time I spend being social with people, the less I see the appeal of it.

Do you enjoy gaming in person?


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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
It basically comes down to the more time I spend being social with people, the less I see the appeal of it.
Do you enjoy gaming in person?

Never tried it. My Skype group's spread out across four time zones.


It would depend on the group, that's certain. I'd probably enjoy it if it was my online group, assuming by some miracle we ended up in the same area.


But I think I've whined about "Ugh, I'm a socially inept nerd and people keep making me feel bad about it" enough for today.


Off to being sociable for a change.

I wouldn't call that fellow band of deviants much of a society, though...


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I'm a friggin adult. I can handle not being the most popular girl at the prom.


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Optimism: Getting a large backpack to a birthday party, hoping it will be full when one returns home.


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It's probably not a good sign that my internal motivation "You can do it!" fairy is more of a drill sergeant. Effective, though!


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Seriously, I was warned to bring a large backpack because one of the presents is too big to fit small backpack.

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