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Just trying to form some character background, and was looking for more detail on how they treat their slaves (demi human or otherwise)?
Do they brand/tattoo or mark them in some ways? How do they treat slaves who have escaped and are recaptured? Do they treat that maliciously bad, like as sadistic play things, or just as labour. Are their any books published that are more detailed about slavery in Cheliax?
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Well, I'd say, probably Like Slaves, but not absurdly so. Ex, slaves have actual value, and it's not cheaper to buy new slaves than to feed the ones you have, like in the early Caribbean rum/sugar/slaves triangle. So, it sucks, but not as much as it could. Objectively, a slave might be less abused than a random commoner; commoners arent, technically, worth anything, while a slave might be worth quite a few GP.
Doesnt make it not a hideous perversion of basic decency, though.
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Oh dear God don't open this can of worms! Invent whatever you like and leave it off the forums.
Why? Its not like we are debating the merit of slavery, I was asking if their cannon written about the depravity of the slavers. Since there have been I think 2 major APs and books released on both Cheliax and Andoaran people I thought it plausible that the culture of the slavers and heir behavior had been chronicled.
If anything this thread serves to vilify the slavers, I'm just trying to construct a compelling character who has a realistic and compelling background as a slave. So I'm trying to put my mind in his.
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Oh dear God don't open this can of worms! Invent whatever you like and leave it off the forums.Why?
Because some people feel the need to compulsively shoot down threads before they even get a chance to be discussed. I mean, seriously people. If you don't want to discuss what the OP brought up, then don't leave mean-spirited or "I am the Authority" comments.
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I think the short answer is "Yes."
Cheliax is a nation of laws. Slaves are part of those laws.
While you being CE may want to gleefully whip your slave until it's a quivering pile of goo, living or unliving, the respectable Lawful Evil slave owner would look down on this as it's a terrible waste of good slaveflesh. If they're still alive, they're basket cases of no practical use, and if they're dead, you won't even get to resurrect them if you need them because they won't be coming back.
The LG slave owner in Cheliax? Well, they spoil their slaves, treat them like pets or even ordinary people. They can probably even free them if they like--after all, Cheliax is a land of laws, and what someone does with their property is their business. Even so, this is frowned upon. Leaving all your worldly wealth to your slave is like someone in the modern day leaving all their money to their poodle--legally permissible but nuts, and something the non-slave heirs will be challenging in court.
That all said the ideal slave owner would be in the model of Asmodeus, cruel but just. A slave who failed in his duty would be punished--society expects this--and shown no mercy, but by the same token, shown no additional cruelty. After all, if you overvalue a punishment for one infraction, it calls the whole system into question. Asmodeus may be many things, but some of the things he is not are arbitrary and whimsical.
Escaped slaves are another matter and one the state has a good deal of interest in. The slave will of course be punished but by the same token the master will likely be punished as well--certainly inspected, possibly fined, maybe even made a slave himself. After all, if your slaves are escaping, that's a sign of poor control, and if your escaped slave kills someone it is the same legally as it would be when your attack dog jumps the fence and kills someone.
The ideal slave does not love his master but fears him, but fears abandonment by his master more. This includes abandonment due to death. A master who believes relatives are conspiring against him to gain control of his property including his slaves would be wise to put a proviso in his will that upon his death, all his slaves are to be put to death and buried with the master. This will inspire the slaves to side with the master and pray to Asmodeus for his continued health rather than side with conspiring relatives.
Think Imperial Rome. Watch the HBO series and the Spartacus thing from showtime (if you're old enough for R rated)...... add in devil worship.
I think the short answer is "Yes."
Cheliax is a nation of laws. Slaves are part of those laws.
While you being CE may want to gleefully whip your slave until it's a quivering pile of goo, living or unliving, the respectable Lawful Evil slave owner would look down on this as it's a terrible waste of good slaveflesh. If they're still alive, they're basket cases of no practical use, and if they're dead, you won't even get to resurrect them if you need them because they won't be coming back.
The LG slave owner in Cheliax? Well, they spoil their slaves, treat them like pets or even ordinary people. They can probably even free them if they like--after all, Cheliax is a land of laws, and what someone does with their property is their business. Even so, this is frowned upon. Leaving all your worldly wealth to your slave is like someone in the modern day leaving all their money to their poodle--legally permissible but nuts, and something the non-slave heirs will be challenging in court.
That all said the ideal slave owner would be in the model of Asmodeus, cruel but just. A slave who failed in his duty would be punished--society expects this--and shown no mercy, but by the same token, shown no additional cruelty. After all, if you overvalue a punishment for one infraction, it calls the whole system into question. Asmodeus may be many things, but some of the things he is not are arbitrary and whimsical.
Escaped slaves are another matter and one the state has a good deal of interest in. The slave will of course be punished but by the same token the master will likely be punished as well--certainly inspected, possibly fined, maybe even made a slave himself. After all, if your slaves are escaping, that's a sign of poor control, and if your escaped slave kills someone it is the same legally as it would be when your attack dog jumps the fence and kills someone.
The ideal slave does not love his master but fears him, but fears abandonment by his master more. This includes abandonment due to death....
Intriguing. Very much so. Thanks for this.