[LPJ Design] Obsidian Twilight Campaign Setting for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Available


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Louis Porter Jr. Design has released it all post-apocalyptic survival horror campaign setting for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Obsidian Twilight Campaign Setting. Obsidian Twilight Campaign Setting is available at RPGNow.com and DriveThruRPG.com. Here is information on this product:

A dark star fell from the sky bringing with it the end of all things! The sanctity of the world known as Abaddon was shattered when a global apocalyptic event of a meteor impacting the planet causing a destructive ecological and eldritch change. Now there is no day or night, just never ending twilight. An undead world ruled by fear and horror. Undead nightmares prowl the darkest forest with malevolent ghouls, grim demonic fiends and horrific vampires prey on a fearful populace. The world is dominated by the monstrously powerful immortal vampiric lich lord known as Calix Sabinus reigns supreme over this world. And with all this the mysterious force known as Nightwall. Evil dominates the world to be challenged by noble heroes fighting to take back a world that should belong to them. Are you willing to take up the fight?

Inside this book you will find you’ll need to embark on adventures in the exciting setting of Obsidian Twilight:

• 8 new races usable as player characters or NPCs.
• Over 100 new feats, over 140 new spells and 6 new prestige classes.
• New equipment, weapons and magic items.
• New monsters and monster template.
• Highly detailed regions and history, new organizations to launch your campaign

Players assume the roles of brave adventures facing ultimate evil in the hopes of saving the world, all in a postapocalyptic setting of survival horror and adventure. Obsidian Twilight created by Louis Porter Jr. Written by James ‘Grim’ Desborough and Louis Porter, Jr. Available Here at RPGNow.com

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So far two good pieces of news:

#1 - We entered the RPGNow.com Top 100 at #16. Not bad for less that 24 hours of selling.

#2 - Here is the first review we have gotten on Obsidian Twilight. Enjoy!

Super Genius Games

LMPjr007 wrote:

So far two good pieces of news:

#1 - We entered the RPGNow.com Top 100 at #16. Not bad for less that 24 hours of selling.

#2 - Here is the first review we have gotten on Obsidian Twilight. Enjoy!

Hey Louis,

Can you make more of it available via the flash preview? All I can see is the table of contents. :)

Hyrum.


HyrumOWC wrote:
Can you make more of it available via the flash preview? All I can see is the table of contents. :)

I have, but for some reason it is not responding. Sent and email to RPGNow.com but keep checking back.

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Ummm...your monsters have Grapple bonuses instead of CMB/CMD.


DitheringFool wrote:
Ummm...your monsters have Grapple bonuses instead of CMB/CMD.

Damn it! Those editorial gremlins once again that plagued me! Well thank god this is PDF that we can fix and re-released. Thanks for the heads up!


Obsidian Twilight gets it first 4 out of 5-star review. Read about it here!


Is this going to be available in Print format? I've been looking forward to this one for awhile now, I just prefer the "book in hand" format as opposed to pdf.
Thanks


Brutorz Bill wrote:

Is this going to be available in Print format? I've been looking forward to this one for awhile now, I just prefer the "book in hand" format as opposed to pdf.

Thanks

Yes it is, and we hope to offer the print version through RPGNow. We are still working on that so cross your fingers and say a little prayer that it will happen.


Thanks for the info. Any idea of the potential time-table for the print release? Or is it too early to tell?


Brutorz Bill wrote:
Thanks for the info. Any idea of the potential time-table for the print release? Or is it too early to tell?

To early to tell. I am still waiting to hear back from the product I sent to them over a month ago. But have no fear, THERE WILL BE A PRINT VERSION!


Now available at Paizo!!!


When I was browsing the titles of threads I thought that said Twilight Campaign Setting and did a double take.

Sparkly vampires in Pathfinder? The horror! ;P


Just got our 2nd 4 out of 5-star review from RPGNow.com Read it here!!!


We just got or third 4 out of 5-star review and our first 5 out of 5-star review. Read it here!

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

No offense, but I downloaded the latest version and the monster section is still in 3.5 terms, not Pathfinder. Is this going to be addressed?

One of the things that I especially appreciate about Super Genius is that if any of us find discrepancies, typos, or errors in their products, they jump on it. Even Adamant corrected their Tome of Secrets pretty quick after getting fan feedback.


LMPjr007 wrote:
Brutorz Bill wrote:
Thanks for the info. Any idea of the potential time-table for the print release? Or is it too early to tell?
To early to tell. I am still waiting to hear back from the product I sent to them over a month ago. But have no fear, THERE WILL BE A PRINT VERSION!

Ordered my print copy. Looking forward to getting this!


DitheringFool wrote:
No offense, but I downloaded the latest version and the monster section is still in 3.5 terms, not Pathfinder. Is this going to be addressed?

This is going to be addressed but we are having an issue with the writer. Once this is resolved then we will be updated the PDF.

DitheringFool wrote:
One of the things that I especially appreciate about Super Genius is that if any of us find discrepancies, typos, or errors in their products, they jump on it. Even Adamant corrected their Tome of Secrets pretty quick after getting fan feedback.

The real advantage that both Super Genius and Admant have on LPJ Design is that these are full times jobs for those involved, while LPJ Design is a part business for me. But I take full responsibility for what happened and it was an oversight on my part. Feel free to contact me directly his you would like me to rectify this situation. Once again thank you for your support.

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Thanks, I appreciate the response - all I want is for your awesome products to accurately reflect their awesomeness! If you say you're on it, I'm good with that.

Dark Archive

This product has been interesting to follow because of the sharp contrasts in reviews. On the one hand, I've read all the links above gushing about the product quality, illustration, etc. On the other hand, there's the review by Kadeity.

For those who have the Pathfinder-compatible supp, what's the word?


joela wrote:

This product has been interesting to follow because of the sharp contrasts in reviews. On the one hand, I've read all the links above gushing about the product quality, illustration, etc. On the other hand, there's the review by Kadeity.

For those who have the Pathfinder-compatible supp, what's the word?

All I can say it at RPG Now we have had three 4-star reviews and one 5-star and a two star review, so opinions do vary. What I suggest you do is take a look at all the FREE Obsidian Twilight products we have available and see if you like them. If you do, pick up the Obsidian Twilight Campaign Setting and see how you like it. If you don't like the free ones, review them and then don't pick up the PDF and save yourself $14.99. We want you to be happy with your experience with us, even if you don't purchase a product.


Just got it a while back and was finally able to sit and do some reading, aside from before mentioned issues, where's the map for the setting?


Tark of the Shoanti wrote:
Just got it a while back and was finally able to sit and do some reading, aside from before mentioned issues, where's the map for the setting?

There is no map for the setting. I never actually built one for the setting. It was something that I thought was not needed.


So I have to map out a world you made? Well I guess that makes it easier to decide what setting I am using, not OT. Sorry, but that's just poor design to not show the world where the setting happens in.
I mean seriously, "something that I thought was not needed."
Yeah, why would the people to know where they are going to and all. Highly overrated.


LMPjr007 wrote:
a two star review from __________ (who I believe is Kadeity)

I consider it bad form to post someones personal information on a public website just because they gave you a bad review. In the context of your post there is no reason to even attempt to post my real name. If you recall public outcry against Blizzard for suggesting that they link real life names to Forum posts.

Consider this me respectfully asking you once to edit your post to delete all mention of my name, and to not repeat this action in the future.

DitheringFool wrote:
One of the things that I especially appreciate about Super Genius is that if any of us find discrepancies, typos, or errors in their products, they jump on it. Even Adamant corrected their Tome of Secrets pretty quick after getting fan feedback.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

LMPjr007 wrote:
The real advantage that both Super Genius and Admant have on LPJ Design is that these are full times jobs for those involved, while LPJ Design is a part business for me. But I take full responsibility for what happened and it was an oversight on my part. Feel free to contact me directly his you would like me to rectify this situation. Once again thank you for your support.

LPJ, im not sure why you think i have something personal against you, but if you recall i DID contact you directly, with an extended version of my review, addressing and itemizing several of the specific issues, telling you that you should really address these before putting your book into print. You sent me a standardized reply, and then a few days later, you put your book, errors were included, into print at LULU.com

Heres the thing LPJ. Ive been a displeased customer from the start, and contacted you several times, hoping for you to "rectify this situation" and i have been met with contempt, you displaying my name publicly on the facebook comments of other publishers and now here.

I do like Obsidian Twilight, i just think that maybe you should have done some better editing, and aquire better customer service skills, because honestly, the only personal issue i have with you at all is how you have dealt with me on this issue, start to finish.

I work full time also, but you know, if you want it, i can compile a list of errors for you, or you can just crowd-source it and start a playtest thread, and then at the end, use what youve learned to fix the pdf that you are hoping will be the core of a new product line.

Tark of the Shoanti wrote:
Just got it a while back and was finally able to sit and do some reading, aside from before mentioned issues, where's the map for the setting?

There is no map, no nations, nothing like that. I remedied it, personally, by looking at the setting as more of a "template setting" than a stand alone setting. For example, take the timeline, and apply it all to Ebberon, and ask yourself "how would this all effect the setting", or do what i plan to do, and Run the "Second Darkness" adventure path with full intention of the pc's failing to stop the meteor, and of running "Obsidian Twilight: Golarion" as your next setting.

Joela wrote:
For those who have the Pathfinder-compatible supp, what's the word?

I gave it a 2/5 only because the potential it has isnt exploited fully, and it stumbles over compatibility errors and balance issues. While balance issues are a matter of opinion, compatibility issues really arent. I could elaborate but ive already said a lot, the point is that its a good product waiting to happen. With a little elbow grease, it can be used, but there is a good bit of work that needs to be done to it. Whenever LPJ gets time to edit the raw document and address some of the issues in it, i will likely revisit my review, and i am still using the product in the mean time, albeit heavily houseruled and modified.

The reason i even chose to post this review was because it seemed everyone was on a united front saying the product was top notch, and so i bought it, only to find that there was very little i felt(in my opinion) was balanced enough to use in actual gameplay. I was really disappointed, and so i emailed LPJ directly, which got me nowhere. So i posted this review, so that at least other people will be able to make an informed decision.

The short version of what i had hoped to convey in my review: Lots of potential, very interesting setting, great art, but not enough usable rules text to justify the pricetag, unless you REALLY like art, and REALLY like homebrewing, or just plain dont care about balance since youre running a Pathinder/3.5-gestalt-ignore-level-adjustments-game anyway. If thats the case, pick it up, its the product for you.

In the mean time, ill be waiting on the errata, so it can be the product for me.


Yeah, wow, now that I have read more, I can see the issues you're having with it and agree myself. I just can't get over no map I mean in his tag about the setting:
"Highly detailed regions and history, new organizations to launch your campaign" yeah, like where? No high detail cause he never thought it was important to map things out?
Grammar errors, and such I can over look, having done edit work for news papers and other pubs, but the map thing just sticks in my gob (mouth).
And while you LPJ may not need a map of the world, seeing as you created it, those of us who spend money on your products and don't know it as intimately as you, well a map helps.
After seeing all that Kadeity has gone through with you, document dropping is just a horrible and petty thing to do. It's a honest review he/she gave, and well, is entitled to it.
You've saved me a lot of time and money LPJ with seeing this thread, now I know I can save my money and not by your products, and waste my time with them.


Tark of the Shoanti wrote:

So I have to map out a world you made? Well I guess that makes it easier to decide what setting I am using, not OT. Sorry, but that's just poor design to not show the world where the setting happens in.

I mean seriously, "something that I thought was not needed."
Yeah, why would the people to know where they are going to and all. Highly overrated.

Tell you the truth I have build several RPG setting without maps. We have roughly done map where we know where things are but since this was to be a one-off product and not a line we though doing a map would be a cost that we didn't need. Aslo we don't refer to locations in the setting so people can create what ever world they want. But if the map is the issue that prevents you from playing this setting, I would suggest LandEscapes: World Map 01 if you are in need of a map.

Dark Archive

Kadeity wrote:

The reason i even chose to post this review was because it seemed everyone was on a united front saying the product was top notch, and so i bought it, only to find that there was very little i felt(in my opinion) was balanced enough to use in actual gameplay. I was really disappointed, and so i emailed LPJ directly, which got me nowhere. So i posted this review, so that at least other people will be able to make an informed decision.

The short version of what i had hoped to convey in my review: Lots of potential, very interesting setting, great art, but not enough usable rules text to justify the pricetag, unless you REALLY like art, and REALLY like homebrewing, or just plain dont care about balance since youre running a Pathinder/3.5-gestalt-ignore-level-adjustments-game anyway. If thats the case, pick it up, its the product for you.

Thanks for the reply, Kadeity. I'm not unfamiliar with LPJ products so the reason of my query.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Kadeity wrote:
LMPjr007 wrote:
a two star review from __________ (who I believe is Kadeity)
I consider it bad form to post someones personal information on a public website just because they gave you a bad review.

Since LMPjr007 can't edit his own post, I've redacted it for him. For what it's worth, I think it's up to the individual poster to decide whether or not to out his or her own real name publicly.


Gary Teter wrote:
Since LMPjr007 can't edit his own post, I've redacted it for him. For what it's worth, I think it's up to the individual poster to decide whether or not to out his or her own real name publicly.

Thanks for the tip, Mephistopheles!

;-)

Liberty's Edge

If I wanted to run this campaign in 3.5 would it work?


szarkel wrote:
If I wanted to run this campaign in 3.5 would it work?

Yes and no. The setting is (mostly) designed for pathfinder, so youd need to be familiar enough with pathfinder to convert a lot of it backwards. However, the psionics rules that are present use the 3.5 rules, the races are virtually indistinguishable from 3.5 races, the spells could mostly be used as is, though i suggest an item by item review before you just say "all of these are kosher" because of some balance issues. The monsters are, other than skills, indistinguishable from 3.5 monsters.

The Prestige classes dont have full caster progression, and use mostly pathfinder rules, so they need some conversion and maybe tune up for balance purposes. A good rule of thumb for creating a prestige class is to make sure class abilities are worth what caster levels you lose, and that what abilities you gain are Effective Character Level appropriate based on the level you would gain them entering the PRC As soon as you can. Most of the PRC's in this supplement dont do that and you end up trading too much for too little. Giving them all full caster progression can alleviate some of that, as well as giving slightly earlier entry, but thats up to the person doing the conversion/homebrew since that isnt how they are written.

The feats, with exceptions i noted earlier in the thread, are pathfinder feats, so they would need to be reviewed one at a time, and converted.

Basically, the supplement appears to be a 3.5 supplement that was converted hastily to pathfinder, so and experienced DM could probably use it in 3.5 with a bit of work, yes.

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