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M somewhat akin to a kender Y / MA

I assume BT will either skip or NPC her turn in a bit......

Canvy make something fun........


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Canvy Mandrain wrote:
KenderKin wrote:

We are just swatting at rats in the hallway! Not hitting any....

Actually thought Canvy was only in danger of loosing a toe and contracting filth fever. Did not expect a coup.....

I thought it was a save against disease too...a nasty disease, but didn't think it would be against death...c'est la vie.

Sorry about that. Maybe I should have been clearer about that. I just thought that the phrase "chewing on the jugular" was enough to get the message through. I meant it to be taken literally.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind having Canvy Reincarnated if you want to keep him, but you can ask AinvarG about other casualties in my game, if it's any comfort. I'm just not a very nice DM.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:
Black Tom wrote:


Sorry about that. Maybe I should have been clearer about that. I just thought that the phrase "chewing on the jugular" was enough to get the message through. I meant it to be taken literally.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind having Canvy Reincarnated if you want to keep him, but you can ask AinvarG about other casualties in my game, if it's any comfort. I'm just not a very nice DM.

I did think the phrase was nasty, but a coup de grace didn't spring to mind, I'm just not that imaginative!! I'd do whatever it takes for re-incarnation... because I think Canvy is kinda unique and it saves me making a new character. Well mainly Canvy is unusual to play. Just let me know what you want, and I'll happily reincarnate...

I'm sure we'll keep in mind your style of DMing...I will..

And thank you...


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Honestly it doesn't matter to me if you reincarnate Canvy or not. Either way works for me. It's a decision I'll leave to the group. There is a druid that has access to the spell in the vicinity. Actually you could even raise him, but that might tax your resources a bit stiffly.

By the way it's funny. I've always considered myself a pretty lenient DM, but I've killed a few characters in my PBPs. Is the mortality rate generally lower in PBPs than in tabletop games?


Black Tom wrote:

Honestly it doesn't matter to me if you reincarnate Canvy or not. Either way works for me. It's a decision I'll leave to the group. There is a druid that has access to the spell in the vicinity. Actually you could even raise him, but that might tax your resources a bit stiffly.

By the way it's funny. I've always considered myself a pretty lenient DM, but I've killed a few characters in my PBPs. Is the mortality rate generally lower in PBPs than in tabletop games?

I haven't really noticed your kill ratio to be unusually high or low, to be honest. There do seem to be a number of scenes where the character just had to die, but they didn't, possibly because of DM fiat, possibly because of lucky die rolls. *shrug*

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

This is the first death I've been involved with in a pbp...but I don't think there was anything wrong with it....we had the opportunity to save me, but didn't take it.....that's always fair..except that it was me!!!...

Normally I wouldn't mind rolling up a new character and starting again, but Canvy is quite a unique character and definitely not suited to every game, hence the desire to keep him up. Hopefully for a while longer too.


Male Human Brawler 3 I AC 17 T 13 FF 14 l HP 40/40 l F +7 R +6 W +2 l Init +3 l Perc +1 I Action Points 1/6 I Att +6 I CMB +5/+7*/+9** I CMD 17/+19*

BT,

I had a question about using Hero Points for rolling Hit Points. Do we have to declare first that we want to use them, then roll twice and keep the best score, or can we roll first, then decide to use them if we are unhappy with the first result?


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Broccan Dunchad wrote:

BT,

I had a question about using Hero Points for rolling Hit Points. Do we have to declare first that we want to use them, then roll twice and keep the best score, or can we roll first, then decide to use them if we are unhappy with the first result?

The former. You decide whether to use them before you roll.


Male Human Brawler 3 I AC 17 T 13 FF 14 l HP 40/40 l F +7 R +6 W +2 l Init +3 l Perc +1 I Action Points 1/6 I Att +6 I CMB +5/+7*/+9** I CMD 17/+19*

Alrighty then, let's make it official: hereby using my Hero Points for my second level hit point roll: Heeerrrre goes...

1d10 ⇒ 8

1d10 ⇒ 10

He shoots...he scores!!!!

When the party returns to Wolfstone, Broccan will suggest selling Canvy's possessions (except his armor, falchion, and holy symbol) and use the funds to pay for his burial. If there are intentions to reincarnate or raise Canvy, someone will need to clue him in.

Broccan will also inquire in Wolfstone for anyone interested in purchasing the spider fangs and poison sacs he removed. Broccan is a local, but has no ranks in local history or gather information. I think he would assume to ask Allustan first, the the mine chemists next, then finally asking around at the Feral Dog if these avenues fail.

Broccan will make a point of offering them as useful and exotic alchemical ingredients, not as ready-made poison.


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Do you want to have Canvy Reincarnated or not? I feel that it's a decision that should be left to the group.


Male Human Brawler 3 I AC 17 T 13 FF 14 l HP 40/40 l F +7 R +6 W +2 l Init +3 l Perc +1 I Action Points 1/6 I Att +6 I CMB +5/+7*/+9** I CMD 17/+19*

Broccan would not be familiar with that level of magic, so he probably wouldn't even realize it was a possibility. He would, once told, be willing to go along with it, as it would assuage his sense of guilt for not keeping his companion alive.

As a player, I find Canvy an entertaining aspect of the group, and have no objection to him returning from the grave. I also have no objection to letting him rest in peace, either, if that is the final decision.


Dwarven Warpriest of Gorum| AC 20, T 11, F 19| HP 78/99| F 8 R 4 W 9, +2 vs poison, spells, spell-like abilities| Init +1| Perc +5| Fervor 6/7| Blessing 7/7| Sacred weapon 7/7| armor 7/7

Edrukk's aware of the possibility, but it doesn't occur to him -- removing a fallen warrior from his final reward just doesn't sit right with him.

That said, he shares Broccan's feelings of guilt, that Canvy didn't have an opportunity to die a glorious death, so he will not argue with bringing him back.

My question as a player is how are we going to pay for this? I don't think this is a cheap option.


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

I vote canvies death was unnatural as it was caused by dire rats rather than natural rats.....

I say we work to raise him.......


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

If you do want to raise Canvy, Reincarnate would be the cheapest option. Allustan knows a druid powerful enough to cast it.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Just a bit of whimsy, would the druid accept bartering for the spell, such as the party retrieving something for him/her? I think it would be interesting if, in addition to reincarnating Canvy, the druid put a quest spell on him to fetch the item and therefore "ensure payment for services rendered."


Cuchulainn wrote:
Just a bit of whimsy, would the druid accept bartering for the spell, such as the party retrieving something for him/her? I think it would be interesting if, in addition to reincarnating Canvy, the druid put a quest spell on him to fetch the item and therefore "ensure payment for services rendered."

Keep coming up with the goodies....although I must say if I got really lucky, Canvy would get reincarnated as a race that would naturally be followers of Lamashtu....maybe strange how things turn out.


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Cuchulainn wrote:
Just a bit of whimsy, would the druid accept bartering for the spell, such as the party retrieving something for him/her? I think it would be interesting if, in addition to reincarnating Canvy, the druid put a quest spell on him to fetch the item and therefore "ensure payment for services rendered."

You can count on it. I know a good adventure hook when I see it.


I'm game for this quest idea -- in fact, I think Edrukk would be almost relieved at the idea if he knew about it.


I feel a puppet at the hands of the deadly DM....this may turn out to be really good fun, I'm beginning to really like all this, but then again tinged with fear and trepidation.


You're in good hands, don't be nervous.

Spoiler:
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

;-)


Sorry, its the English reserve coming out....if I was from the US it would be zippee doo this is the most marvellous time, its fabulous, amazing having a brilliant time. But we say, yep things are good.

:)


Female Gnome Witch 6 (Ward currently on Nobody, Hero Points: 1, Hit Points: 50/54)

Wait, we gained a level?
*Reads through old posts*
D'oh! I'll level up immediately.


Female Kobold

So, it looks like the APG playtest PDF is no longer available, and my download isn't working. I don't suppose anybody could let me know what I gained, and the witch's spell list?


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
So, it looks like the APG playtest PDF is no longer available, and my download isn't working. I don't suppose anybody could let me know what I gained, and the witch's spell list?

Glad to help:

Second level Witch has:

BAB +1
Fort +0
Ref +0
Will +3

She gains one hex and her spells per day change to:
4 Cantrips
2 First-level

You gain one patron spell, but I haven't checked to see what your patron is...

Spell list:

Spoiler:
WITCH SPELLS
Witches gain access to the following spells. While most of these spells are found in the Core Rulebook, those marked with an asterisk (*) appear in Chapter 5 of this book.
0-Level Witch Spells—bleed, dancing lights, daze, detect magic, detect poison, guidance, light, mending, message, putrefy food and drink*, read magic, resistance, spark*, stabilize, touch of fatigue.
1st-Level Witch Spells—beguiling gift*, burning hands, cause fear, charm person, chill touch, command, comprehend languages, cure light wounds, dancing lantern*, detect secret doors, enlarge person, hypnotism, identify, ill omen*, inflict light wounds, mage armor, mask dweomer*, mount, obscuring mist, ray of enfeeblement, reduce person, sleep, summon monster I, unseen servant.

Let me know what else you need and I will see if I can't track it down.

(Did you look to see if this is on the pfsrd site yet?)

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

I realized as I was levelling-up Broccan that I had been neglecting a combat-related penalty I should have been assessing. The tower shield bestows a -2 attack penalty when used in combat, due to encumberance.

Anyway, I wanted to point out my error and correct it in some manner. Broccan has given up on the tower shield in favor of the heavy wooden shield. This dials his armor class back from 21 to 19.

Anyway, I wanted everyone to know that I wasn't intentionally ignoring the penalty, I just missed it in the description. Again, my apologies.


Cuchulainn wrote:

I realized as I was levelling-up Broccan that I had been neglecting a combat-related penalty I should have been assessing. The tower shield bestows a -2 attack penalty when used in combat, due to encumberance.

Anyway, I wanted to point out my error and correct it in some manner. Broccan has given up on the tower shield in favor of the heavy wooden shield. This dials his armor class back from 21 to 19.

Anyway, I wanted everyone to know that I wasn't intentionally ignoring the penalty, I just missed it in the description. Again, my apologies.

Really? You had a negative to your attack without the tower shield penalty? I assumed you were already including the penalty...


Ahh, safety comes at a cost....


M somewhat akin to a kender Y / MA
Cuchulainn wrote:

I realized as I was levelling-up Broccan that I had been neglecting a combat-related penalty I should have been assessing. The tower shield bestows a -2 attack penalty when used in combat, due to encumberance.

Anyway, I wanted to point out my error and correct it in some manner. Broccan has given up on the tower shield in favor of the heavy wooden shield. This dials his armor class back from 21 to 19.

Anyway, I wanted everyone to know that I wasn't intentionally ignoring the penalty, I just missed it in the description. Again, my apologies.

With all those dice rolls of 1,2, 3's from the cursed dice....you did not need the penalty...'

I also thought you were applying it to get those low rolls........

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5
AinvarG wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:

I realized as I was levelling-up Broccan that I had been neglecting a combat-related penalty I should have been assessing. The tower shield bestows a -2 attack penalty when used in combat, due to encumberance.

Anyway, I wanted to point out my error and correct it in some manner. Broccan has given up on the tower shield in favor of the heavy wooden shield. This dials his armor class back from 21 to 19.

Anyway, I wanted everyone to know that I wasn't intentionally ignoring the penalty, I just missed it in the description. Again, my apologies.

Really? You had a negative to your attack without the tower shield penalty? I assumed you were already including the penalty...

That was the minus from the Strength damage as a result of the spider venom.


Cuchulainn wrote:
AinvarG wrote:
Really? You had a negative to your attack without the tower shield penalty? I assumed you were already including the penalty...
That was the minus from the Strength damage as a result of the spider venom.

Wow - I had no idea you had lost that much Strength -- we seriously should have bailed out of there sooner. Too bad the cleric's not paying attention to the welfare of the party, eh? "Blood and souls for Gorum!!!"


Oooh nasty spider......but personally I hate rats..


Female Kobold

It's up on PFSRD now. Thanks.


Female Gnome Witch 6 (Ward currently on Nobody, Hero Points: 1, Hit Points: 50/54)

And Erine is levelled up!


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2
Erine Wintyle wrote:
And Erine is levelled up!

Except your thing says witch 1

I love the command spell I think it is very fitting for the witch!


As much for the fun of it as to make it a quick transition, I guess I should be looking at what changes when Edrukk levels up. It's just been very crazy to be me lately. Hoping life slows down before I burn up in the atmosphere...

Off to see what a cleric 2 gets...

(And you are most welcome, Kobold Cleaver. I like your Erine and Edrukk's somewhat protective of her, too.)

EDIT: Meh, there's not much there -- rolling his hit points might be the most time-consuming part of updating his next level. Nothing to get excited about, for sure.


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Deevor, do you want to roll for what Canvy will be coming back as or should I? I'm working on something here...

By the way, I hope you don't mind if we leave the Citadel for now and go into Morrick Mansion instead. I think there is more fun to be had that way.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Let's go wherever the road takes us, on to Morrick Mansion, then! :)

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:
Black Tom wrote:

Deevor, do you want to roll for what Canvy will be coming back as or should I? I'm working on something here...

By the way, I hope you don't mind if we leave the Citadel for now and go into Morrick Mansion instead. I think there is more fun to be had that way.

I will trust the ever loving DM here.......OMG!!!! what am I saying!!!

You roll I'll take it on the chin...be kind...


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

I ATEN'T DEAD!

I'll be getting my new computer tomorrow, and will hopefully be able to post something coherent by then. This week has been hell.

Canvy:

Spoiler:
I rolled half-orc for you, but I'm thinking that Canvy is spontaneously reanimated by the power of Lamashtu and pure chaos, so while you are mechanically a half-orc, you are really a human tainted with chaos. I leave the description to you, as well as what it does to your mind, but I suspect that Canvy's madness is going to get worse.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:
Black Tom wrote:

I ATEN'T DEAD!

I'll be getting my new computer tomorrow, and will hopefully be able to post something coherent by then. This week has been hell.

Canvy:** spoiler omitted **

I have updated Canvy for you...

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Welcome back, BT! Game on, woo-hoo!

BTW, did I (Broccan) successfully sell the spider parts?


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Cuchulainn wrote:
BTW, did I (Broccan) successfully sell the spider parts?

Yes, an alchemist working for one of the more unscrupulous mine owners is willing to take them off your hands, but since they were quite inexpertly harvested, he only offers you 5 gp for them.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Just for clarification, is that 5 gold pieces total, or 5 gold pieces per harvested spider (20 gold pieces)?


Just to let you know, I will be taking what I think is a much-deserved vacation to anywhere but here starting Saturday. I expect to have Internet access, but I don't expect to have a lot of time, so my posting after Friday might be sporadic for a week or so.

Please DMPC Edrukk as necessary.


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Cuchulainn wrote:

Just for clarification, is that 5 gold pieces total, or 5 gold pieces per harvested spider (20 gold pieces)?

That is 5 gp total.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

Still here in the background...wondering what the lime jello tastes like.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Does anyone know if Tiana is still with us, or have we experienced another mysteriously vanishing character?

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

Perhaps we should all put the round as a title for each post in action....

Round 1
Canvy casts a spell, then runs away.

....sort of thing...there is nothing to stop more than one post per round, as information becomes clearer...as Canvy has done in the last few rounds, i.e. his first round actions changed slightly when it was clarified he had his armor and weapons on/with him.

But at least with a title in combat we'd know each get an action each round and probably help BT too.

Just a thought...shoot down at will...

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

I'm all for streamlining things and keeping the game moving, with as little confusion as possible.

If that means a little extra typing on my part, so be it.


In the other games I've enjoyed with BT, the practice has been relatively simple. We roll for initiative and that gives us relative positions in the order, but he doesn't get too caught up about who posts when - first to post is first to act, then he does the NPCs/monsters and tells us who's up.

The problem we are having here is usually one or two people that seem to post an action every time they log in, whether it is their turn or not, so others follow suit because they see that the other one's gone.

I think if we just refrain from posting multiple actions, we'd be fine. The most I think we need is a checklist of who's gone so far so the rest of the party knows whether they need to post or not.

I don't think we need a lot -- just a little self-control, mostly.

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