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Female Gnome Witch 6 (Ward currently on Nobody, Hero Points: 1, Hit Points: 50/54)
Deevor wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

BT and Deevor:
With green hags, sister probably also means rival. :P

It's also possible that Evalt was Heirone's mentor, but disgusted with her mentor's 'passiveness', Herione left. That way, we could get both rival and mentor, too, giving us a lot of options. I can't really see Evalt learning from anyone else, though.


OK, I thought the group decision was to purchase a wand of CLW, but I see a request for a few potions of Shield or Shield of Faith and I think we have a lot of healing available to us currently. I'm in favor of augmenting our existing healing, but I don't know if we need to spent nearly all of our cash on a wand.

For that matter, scrolls are less expensive and at least half of our party can use those, so we could use them almost as easily as most parties use potions.

I realize that the wand has the biggest bang for the buck. I just like the idea of upgrading Broccan's armor and having some other options in addition to the healing.

I'll get the wand if that's still the consensus, just floating ideas out there.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

EDRUKK: I calculated the take from selling armor and weapons at 814 gold pieces.

I'm fine with either the wand or the pile o' potions. Whatever ends up being the consensus.

I don't know how much gold was in the summoner's and big orc's pouches, but that can be added to the mix as well.

The cloak should probably go to Erine or Sanstree, and the scroll to whichever one didn't get the cloak. Offhand, I don't recall what a potion of silversheen does, so I've no idea who would best benefit from it.

EDIT: Silversheen gives a weapon the qualities of a silver weapon for bypassing DR, according to the PFCR.


Dwarven Warpriest of Gorum| AC 20, T 11, F 19| HP 78/99| F 8 R 4 W 9, +2 vs poison, spells, spell-like abilities| Init +1| Perc +5| Fervor 6/7| Blessing 7/7| Sacred weapon 7/7| armor 7/7
Cuchulainn wrote:

EDRUKK: I calculated the take from selling armor and weapons at 814 gold pieces.

I'm fine with either the wand or the pile o' potions. Whatever ends up being the consensus.

I don't know how much gold was in the summoner's and big orc's pouches, but that can be added to the mix as well.

The cloak should probably go to Erine or Sanstree, and the scroll to whichever one didn't get the cloak. Offhand, I don't recall what a potion of silversheen does, so I've no idea who would best benefit from it.

EDIT: Silversheen gives a weapon the qualities of a silver weapon for bypassing DR, according to the PFCR.

130 gp in loose change for a total of 944 gp

The scroll is arcane, so Sanstree would not be able to use it (he's a divine caster, it's an arcane scroll). I don't know if the spell is on anyone's spell list, actually. Once Sanstree is a wizard, he would have access to it. On the other hand, he's expressed an interest in the cloak.

I don't know the price of a breastplate, but I think we might have enough money to obtain one for Broccan now.

I'm hoping to find out what the selection is from the temple before I get too specific on what I'm buying.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Armor choices within probable price range:

Chain mail 150 gp
Breastplate 200 gp
Banded mail 250 gp

I can sell back Broccan's scale mail at half-price, which would contribute another 25 gps to the pot. Broccan also has 19 gp leftover to add in also. Banded mail would be awesome, but either chainmail or breastplate would be an improvement.


If you can spare 50 or 100 gp for potions of Shield of Faith for Canvy that would be nice, but he's not in it for the money or treasure...although anyone buying him stuff like that would please him greatly..Other than that he will wait until he can get better armor.


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

Sanstree has about 19GP left over and could contribute to a fund. Really only want to see a wand of CLW in Erines hands for the return to the citadel.

Has anyone else figured out their PCs next level?

I am obviously going wizard for level 2.....


All right - 944 gp and Broccan's sold 25 gp for 969 to work with.

750 gp for the Wand of Cure Light Wounds leaves us with 219 gp.

200 gp to get the better armor on the fighter leaves us 19 gp.

If anyone wants to contribute, we can purchase some scrolls of Shield of Faith or Protection from Evil. Otherwise, I think we keep the 19 gp for future purchases.

EDIT: I guess we don't know for certain whether they have Scribe Scroll. I'm leaning toward scrolls due to the cost difference.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

I will throw in my 19 gold to the scroll fund in appreciation for the armor. Thanks!


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

I think that Erine should have the wand (she has no weapons and it fits the pacifist role). I do not mind if she has the scroll and cloak either. We can always change gear up when/if we need to.

My interest in the cloak will really kick in once I drop my armor to prevent having arcane spell failure...

With the Wand of CLW in place I will be boosting my offense with a club and the Shillelagh spell..... as well as continue storm bursts....

likely will keep using the bursts and save the club for when things get rough. I would rather not be tied up casting CLWs....

Next level I will be crossbowing and have arcane spells!


Dwarven Warpriest of Gorum| AC 20, T 11, F 19| HP 78/99| F 8 R 4 W 9, +2 vs poison, spells, spell-like abilities| Init +1| Perc +5| Fervor 6/7| Blessing 7/7| Sacred weapon 7/7| armor 7/7

@Broccan: LOL, just realized that I'm trying to figure how to upgrade your armor and I'm wearing the same stuff you are trying to get rid of!

I thought Erine would be the best choice to be carrying the wand, as well.

@Sanstree: With Edrukk able to channel energy and swap spells for Cure spells, you hopefully should not need to occupy a spell slot with another CLW, but it's certainly welcome.

@Sanstree: Just to be clear, you realize that the cloak has no impact on armor, right? It's protection only applies to saving throws. As for your diversion into arcana, do you have a long-range plan for tying your classes together in some fashion, or are you just doing where the winds blow with his development? I'm planning on Edrukk seeing the cleric class through, but he could possibly pick up fighter at some later date.


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

Pc development for Sanstree looks like this

Druid 1
Druid 1 / Wizard (divination) 1
D2/W1
D3/W1
D4/W1
D4/W2
D4/W3
Mystic theurge


Sanstree wrote:

Pc development for Sanstree looks like this

Druid 1
Druid 1 / Wizard (divination) 1
D2/W1
D3/W1
D4/W1
D4/W2
D4/W3
Mystic theurge

I wondered if that wasn't the end goal. Not that it matters, but what are your opposition schools for your specialization?


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

There is a spoiler for next level on the Sanstree page. Opposition schools Necromancy and Evocation.......

I will enjoy the school spell true strike whether I use it for that one crossbow bolt that has to hit or on the storm burst of even the shillelagh......

Also the mount spell was made for druids!

Plus wherever entangle fails grease should work....

I guess check the page and let me know if you have any other questions.....


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Hey Canvy:

Spoiler:
I'm sorry if I've been a little curt on you, but I've had some trouble wrapping my head around how to integrate Canvy in some overarching plot. Now I got some ideas, but I wonder how much you will let me mess with your character?


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

Canvy got a bath during his last drinking binge!!!!

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:
Black Tom wrote:
Hey Canvy:** spoiler omitted **

BT:
Me I'm pretty easy going and despite slowly turning into a grumpy old man, like games where the players are cooperative even if their characters aren't. So I am open to ideas which would make the game a) more fun and interesting, b) I am very appreciative of playing Canvy in this game, because I know how difficult it must be to incorporate such a character into a game. It wasn't something I had really appreciated when I started out. So I'm more than willing to work with you to do something with Canvy. I will say if it's something I fundamentally disagree with.

Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Canvy Mandrain wrote:
Black Tom wrote:
Hey Canvy:** spoiler omitted **
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
Great! Not to give away any spoilers but I think you can stick to your original idea of Canvy slowly descending into madness and we'll see what happens. In the meantime have a hero point for being cooperative.

OK BT


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

I just got my pdf of the Advanced Player's Guide, and there are tons of goodies in it. I don't know if you have access to it, but if and when you do I wanted to let you know my policy.

I count on Erine being adjusted to the current witch rules. I trust you to find the differences. For the rest of you, I will allow you to retcon your characters if you find something that you like in it, preferably when you level up. Since I haven't had time to look through all of it I reserve the right to veto anything, so please check with me if you are making any changes, but I don't want to deny you the fun of the new options.

The only thing is that I want to ask you to try to keep your characters essentially the same in flavor.


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

Base classes all the way BT...

Watch out Wizard here I come!


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

The APG is about much more than new classes. There are lots of options for both wizards and druids, as well as new feats and spells. But none of it is essential, so if you don't want to use it, that's fine too.


Female Kobold
Black Tom wrote:

I just got my pdf of the Advanced Player's Guide, and there are tons of goodies in it. I don't know if you have access to it, but if and when you do I wanted to let you know my policy.

I count on Erine being adjusted to the current witch rules. I trust you to find the differences. For the rest of you, I will allow you to retcon your characters if you find something that you like in it, preferably when you level up. Since I haven't had time to look through all of it I reserve the right to veto anything, so please check with me if you are making any changes, but I don't want to deny you the fun of the new options.

I can't afford the APG at the time, so she'll probably go a ways without updating.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
I can't afford the APG at the time, so she'll probably go a ways without updating.

No worries - between BT and myself and whoever has the book, we'll get the wee lass shaped up proper!

I'm off t' see 'at interestin' changes 'ave been made fer dwarven cleric's o' Gorum!

EDIT: I did see some interesting things, but the only one I'm considering is a subdomain selection. I'll have to weigh the changes against his current configuration, but I think I will leave the old boy just like he is.


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

If you guys with the book see a better specialization school than divination in the APG let me know, since that is my next level, also any feats that seem to fit my PC......

Any alternatives to the arcane bond in the APG? I don't like either one in the core but am looking at the familiar.....

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

I have a wizard in another game, I chose divinity as my specialist school, so you won't get any complaints from me.


Sanstree wrote:

If you guys with the book see a better specialization school than divination in the APG let me know, since that is my next level, also any feats that seem to fit my PC......

Any alternatives to the arcane bond in the APG? I don't like either one in the core but am looking at the familiar.....

Sanstree:

Spoiler:
How do you define 'better'? There are alternative specializations in the book based on the four elements, so one of them might interest you, depending on what you prefer.

Another option has to do with modifications to the existing schools, basically replacing a power here, a power there. So if there's a school that tempts you, but you don't like the power associated with it, perhaps there's a replacement power you would like better.

If you are willing to, we can discuss this off-line via e-mail. My address is my profile name at yahoo dot com.


Canvy Mandrain wrote:
I have a wizard in another game, I chose divinity as my specialist school, so you won't get any complaints from me.

Huh. And I figured divinity would be more likely to interest a cleric... ;-)


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

OK sent an e-mail to discuss


Male Human Druid 3 / Wizard (Foresight School) 3 / Mystic Theurge 2

Thanks for the information!

BT
want to make a slight tweak from the APG to Sanstree's next level....

Spoiler:

Foresight School
Replacement Powers: The following school powers replace the diviner's fortune and scrying adept powers of the divination school.

Prescience (Su): At the beginning of your turn, you may, as a free action, roll a single d20. At any point before your next turn, you may use the result of this roll as the result of any d20 roll you are required to make. If you do not use the d20 result before your next turn, it is lost. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier.

Foretell (Su): At 8th level, you can utter a prediction of the immediate future. While your foretelling is in effect, you emit a 30-foot aura of fortune that aids your allies or hinders your enemies, as chosen by you at the time of the prediction. If you choose to aid, you and your allies gain a +2 luck bonus on ability checks, attack rolls, caster level checks, saving throws, and skill checks. If you choose to hinder, your enemies take a -2 penalty on those rolls instead. You can use this ability for a number of rounds per day equal to your wizard level. These rounds do not need to be consecutive.

As far as I can tell will keep forwarned as well just exchanging the other two.....

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

I'll be out on a vacation Thursday to Tuesday, may get sporadic posts, but don't let Canvy hold you up. When I'm not around I will let the DM play Canvy as he sees fit.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

We're good at finding traps....that's one for Edrukk and another for Broccan....

Who needs rogues!! LOL

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Yeah, that's gonna leave a mark!

Well, it's what Broccan would've done, he's young, impatient, and has too many fanciful minstrel's tales in his head that he needs to be disabused of...the hard way, it seems.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

Just wondered about using the wand of healing, if Erine doesn't post. It seems a little difficult for us to continue with exploration, if the wand person is unavailable and we rely on the wand to keep us up. How do you want us to play that BT?


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Has Erine dropped out? I'll let Canvy, Sanstree or Edrukk use the wand if Erine doesn't post.


Female Kobold
Black Tom wrote:
Has Erine dropped out? I'll let Canvy, Sanstree or Edrukk use the wand if Erine doesn't post.

I'm still here. Erine didn't have much to contribute to the conversation, so I was sort of skimming over the posts.


Dwarven Warpriest of Gorum| AC 20, T 11, F 19| HP 78/99| F 8 R 4 W 9, +2 vs poison, spells, spell-like abilities| Init +1| Perc +5| Fervor 6/7| Blessing 7/7| Sacred weapon 7/7| armor 7/7

No offense intended with that last post -- Edrukk's just a little sensitive about the cracks about his trapfinding escapade...

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

Wow, so there's the first character death. So how do you handle it from here, Black Tom? Does Deevor make a new character, to be introduced at the next opportune moment?


Cuchulainn wrote:
Wow, so there's the first character death. So how do you handle it from here, Black Tom? Does Deevor make a new character, to be introduced at the next opportune moment?

Oh, the humanity! Coup d' grace by a fiendish rat!! Truly sorry, Deevor - it never crossed my mind that Canvy was in real danger - and Edrukk's busy missing rats in the hallway, anyway...


M somewhat akin to a kender Y / MA

We are just swatting at rats in the hallway! Not hitting any....

Actually thought Canvy was only in danger of loosing a toe and contracting filth fever. Did not expect a coup.....


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat

Yeah, Deevor, you are welcome to create a new character if you like. Sorry about the Coup de Grace, but fiendish rats are... fiendish. And the wizard isn't a very nice guy either.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

Ohh....Just when Canvy was beginning to get interesting.....

...I'll do something but need time to mourn first....

....I feel a barbarian or wizard coming on....

....or if anyone has any requests....

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

BT, I just remembered your hero points system, can I either use some points to add +8 to the d20 roll (4 HPs), or failing that can I use the points(5HPs) to reroll the fortitude save?


Male Human (mostly) Ex-cleric and Grumpy Cat
Canvy Mandrain wrote:

BT, I just remembered your hero points system, can I either use some points to add +8 to the d20 roll (4 HPs), or failing that can I use the points(5HPs) to reroll the fortitude save?

Oh yes. The 4 points need to be spent before the roll, but you can definitely spend 5 points for a reroll. On the other hand hero points carry over to your new character (and you will get 3 more: 2 for level and 1 for a heroic death), so if you fail the save again you lose them.

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

There's also this to consider: Suppose you use your Hero Points to re-roll your save vs the coup de grace and you make it. That's great, but you're still lying on the ground, stunned. What is the most likely action that the Fiendish Dire Rat will take on the next round?

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:

Well...I'll just go for the new character.....we'll see how it goes..

shame, I never got the chance to use his abilities to he full...I don't like rats....

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Cleric/2 Fighter/1 HP: 36/55 AC10/T10/FF10 Conditions:
KenderKin wrote:

We are just swatting at rats in the hallway! Not hitting any....

Actually thought Canvy was only in danger of loosing a toe and contracting filth fever. Did not expect a coup.....

I thought it was a save against disease too...a nasty disease, but didn't think it would be against death...c'est la vie.


M somewhat akin to a kender Y / MA

There was once a thread about a PC trying to "totally ignore" a dire rat and the DM ruled for a coup....

It was a strange thread,,, with a dire rat coup being a side note so yep some DM's do.....

I call it DM perogative!

The totally ignore part of course has nothing to do with this situation......

Liberty's Edge

Male I don't like to run and I'm not overly competitive Procrastinator 10/Daydreamer 15/Trivia Buff 5

So, are we just waiting for Tiana to post, then? It's been a couple days now.


Female Kobold
Canvy Mandrain wrote:

Ohh....Just when Canvy was beginning to get interesting.....

...I'll do something but need time to mourn first....

....I feel a barbarian or wizard coming on....

....or if anyone has any requests....

Actually, it's partially my fault you died. Erine's action would quite possibly have been to run over and drag you to safety. Sadly, Erine was caught up in the fog of battle, and spent six seconds getting her bearings. :P

We could also pool our money to get you raised, as a third option. Of course, permanent negative levels=not very fun.

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