Who's cooler, Boba Fett or Richard B. Riddick?


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Liberty's Edge

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Sure, Boba's got a jet pack and missiles and rules Mandalore (nowadays), but Riddick kills guys with a teacup and rules the Necromongers.

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Fett FTW

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I dunno. . .first I'd have to know, is it "pre-sequels" Boba Fett, when he had awesome mystique, or "post-sequels" Jango 'Skippy the Wonder Pup' Fett? I gotta know which before I make my ruling. . .

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Of course, you have to take into account the entire story of both men. From Boba Fett's being cloned and pampered by Jango to Riddick's surviving being strangled by his own umbilical cord and being raised in the prison system.

Not that I'm biasing this or anything... ;)


Fett the big bad bounty hunter got taken out by accident and then swallowed by a sarlacc. Riddick became the ruler of the necromongers by accident.

Riddick wins.

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Xabulba wrote:

Fett the big bad bounty hunter got taken out by accident and then swallowed by a sarlacc. Riddick became the ruler of the necromongers by accident.

Riddick wins.

Alas, Fett survived the sarlacc. Even had a daughter. Wound up working with Han Solo for a time too... But Riddick did outrun the sun on Crematorium.


It's a tricky question. They both have high badass levels. Riddick has a penchant for up close and personal beat-downs and sharp implements. Boba just sorta destroys people with missiles and flamethrowers and his list of achievements is quite long. In the end, though, I think Boba got a little soft whereas Riddick now rules a bunch of crazies called the Necromongers (a name with undeniable coolness), so I will have to side with Riddick.


mattdroz wrote:
Xabulba wrote:

Fett the big bad bounty hunter got taken out by accident and then swallowed by a sarlacc. Riddick became the ruler of the necromongers by accident.

Riddick wins.

Alas, Fett survived the sarlacc. Even had a daughter. Wound up working with Han Solo for a time too... But Riddick did outrun the sun on Crematorium.

When did that happen?


Xabulba wrote:
mattdroz wrote:
Xabulba wrote:

Fett the big bad bounty hunter got taken out by accident and then swallowed by a sarlacc. Riddick became the ruler of the necromongers by accident.

Riddick wins.

Alas, Fett survived the sarlacc. Even had a daughter. Wound up working with Han Solo for a time too... But Riddick did outrun the sun on Crematorium.
When did that happen?

Heh your a bit behind on the SW timeline it seems. He also be came mandalor, leader of the Mandalorans

Here ya go, all you ever want to know about Boba fett


I never read any of the books so Buba Fett is still the loser bounty hunter who got knocked off a barge by a blind man to me.

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Not just any blind man. Han Solo is a bad mutha...


Yep that did happen, however he crawled back out.


Heathansson wrote:
Not just any blind man. Han Solo is a bad mutha...

So, so true.

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Here's how I figure it though.
All those non-shootin stormtroopers......
who are they clones of?
Riddick?
No.....


Heathansson wrote:

Here's how I figure it though.

All those non-shootin stormtroopers......
who are they clones of?
Riddick?
No.....

Thats not true really, clone troopers were Fett clones, storm troopers were clones from dozen if not hundreds of bloodlines and non-clone recruits.

All in all the common clone trooper was 3 times the solder a stormtrooper was. But storm troopers were way cheaper.

Just saying

Scarab Sages

Is this because they're going to make another Riddick movie?

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Are they?


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

Here's how I figure it though.

All those non-shootin stormtroopers......
who are they clones of?
Riddick?
No.....

Thats not true really, clone troopers were Fett clones, storm troopers were clones from dozen if not hundreds of bloodlines and non-clone recruits.

All in all the common clone trooper was 3 times the solder a stormtrooper was. But storm troopers were way cheaper.

Just saying

Yep. Eventually, the original Fett clones got pretty rare among the troopers (I think Darth Vader's personal brigade was 100% Fett though). Obviously the cost of running an empire (not to mention building giant battle moons) made Palpatine's pocketbooks a bit light.

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Heathansson wrote:
Are they?

It's in pre-production, scheduled for release sometime in 2012 (assuming the world's not done for).

I brought it up because I was just watching Chronicles of Riddick earlier on TNT (and the genius of programming decided to follow up a classic such as this with Batman & Robin)

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mattdroz wrote:
It's in pre-production, scheduled for release sometime in 2012 (assuming the world's not done for).

I hope it's better than Babylon A.D. That movie was a mess.


To make Fett cooler than Riddick you have to go into the books, because on the movies alone he is pretty lame. He gets told "NO disentigrations" by Vader, shoots at Luke a couple of times, nods his head to Leia in Jabba's palace, shoots at Luke a couple more times, and then has his rocket pack set off by a blind guy who is basically doing the "oaf carrying canoe" bit from a comedy movie. Screen time alone, Fett is really no more than another Stromtrooper, albeit with a cooler suit.

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Yep that did happen, however he crawled back out.

Not just survived, which in and of itself had never been done before, but damn near killed the thing from the inside. And since it is The Fett, and we know he don't do nothin' half ass, went back and finished it off for good measure. Even timeless, feared monsters have gotten the message..... Don't F with The Fett.

EDIT: Let's face it, if the Rebellion could have afforded Fett, it would have been Star War. He woulda gotten the job done in one hour long movie.


Riddick by surgical shine job.


Jason Ellis 350 wrote:
To make Fett cooler than Riddick you have to go into the books, because on the movies alone he is pretty lame. He gets told "NO disentigrations" by Vader, shoots at Luke a couple of times, nods his head to Leia in Jabba's palace, shoots at Luke a couple more times, and then has his rocket pack set off by a blind guy who is basically doing the "oaf carrying canoe" bit from a comedy movie. Screen time alone, Fett is really no more than another Stromtrooper, albeit with a cooler suit.

See another reason Riddick is cooler, you don't have to read anything to know he's cool.


Yeah, but has anyone written any songs or made music videos about Riddick? No, I don't think so.

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Shadowborn wrote:
Yeah, but has anyone written any songs or made music videos about Riddick? No, I don't think so.

Here's a video for Fett... ;)


mattdroz wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:
Yeah, but has anyone written any songs or made music videos about Riddick? No, I don't think so.

Here's a video for Fett... ;)

For Australians the situation with Fett is complicated. EP 1 Fett is played by a Kiwi (New Zealand) which is like making Fett a hillbilly, the accent destroys the suspension of disbelief. Then again its Temuera Morrison playing Fett and he was Jake the Muss in Once Were Warriors - and Jake was colder harder and tougher than Fett.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Jake was colder harder and tougher than Fett.

I second this.


Fett is a mid-level minor villain in a world of high-level jedi and power magnates.

Riddick is a high-level anti-hero badass in a world of low-level warriors.

You do the math.

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drops in fiery and controversial statement

Mr. Lucas stated that Fett died in the movie. No matter what the books said. He did however, sign away all rights to SW storyline in novel and comic book/graphic novel form.

+1 for Riddick.

Edit: okay, that didnt seem to come across as lighthearted as I meant it to. Riddick rocks. :P


samerandomhero wrote:


Mr. Lucas stated that Fett died in the movie. No matter what the books said. He did however, sign away all rights to SW storyline in novel and comic book/graphic novel form.

The only thing from any Star Wars novel that I think happens to qualify as canon is Mara Jade. The rest does not, including the books that introduced her.

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I saw Riddick kill a man with a cup.....a cup!

I saw Boba Fett fall into a monster.

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Jake was colder harder and tougher than Fett

+1

I saw Jake perform a medical procedure with some glass......

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Vin Diesel plays D&D. Jeremy Bulloch, to my knowledge, does not.

Vin Diesel had a cool '100 things you don't know about Vin Diesel' internet meme ripped off by Chuck 'I want to be President of Texas after it secedes from Obama's Communist States of Amerika' Norris fanboys. Jeremy Bulloch, I'd never heard of, until I looked up who played Boba Fett in the Empire Strikes Back.

Riddick was cool in Pitch Black, and not so much in the terribly muddled Chronicles movie (although I could watch it again just for Alexa Davalos, who is always watchable). Boba Fett was cool-looking, but pretty much got ganked by Han in his first real fight scene, sadly, marking him as one step more impressive than Greedo, who didn't even get a fight scene.

Being 'more impressive than Greedo' doesn't exactly top my awesome chart.

Riddick, all the way.

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Set wrote:


Riddick was cool in Pitch Black, and not so much in the terribly muddled Chronicles movie (although I could watch it again just for Alexa Davalos, who is always watchable).

Could Alexa's character beat Boba Fett? I'd say: "Yeah!"

Being beat by a girl is always bad for your image.......

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Heathansson wrote:

Here's how I figure it though.

All those non-shootin stormtroopers......
who are they clones of?
Riddick?
No.....

Saw you in your recent movie, woofie. Must be cool having DelToro double for you in human form. I didnt know you had such issues with your Dad. Sorry. "sniff"


Coolness Ranking

1. Riddick
2. Blind dude with a stick
3. Fett


samerandomhero wrote:

drops in fiery and controversial statement

Mr. Lucas stated that Fett died in the movie. No matter what the books said. He did however, sign away all rights to SW storyline in novel and comic book/graphic novel form.

To be fair Lucas says alot of really, really strange things.


Riddick tries a bit too hard. It's a bit too over the top. I mean, the way he wants everyone to think he's the bad guy, you wouldn't be surprised he runs an animal shelter where they don't put the animals down and feeds baby kittens personally.

Still, he's got Fett beat by a gigaparsec. Fett's not even trying.

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Velcro Zipper wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Jake was colder harder and tougher than Fett.
I second this.

Thirded.


Neither. Jason Nesmith is the best!


Boba Fett, without question. His death was the first travesty in the movie that became unhinged, and hinted of how the SW legacy would go in the future.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Boba Fett, without question. His death was the first travesty in the movie that became unhinged, and hinted of how the SW legacy would go in the future.

E-bloody-woks were a 300 foot neon sign that George had personally jumped the shark and everything else he touched was to be tainted by merchandising and greed.

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Boba Fett, without question. His death was the first travesty in the movie that became unhinged, and hinted of how the SW legacy would go in the future.
E-bloody-woks were a 300 foot neon sign that George had personally jumped the shark and everything else he touched was to be tainted by merchandising and greed.

Please. Everyone knows that George's official Jumping of the Selachimorpha was when he produced Howard the Duck. He just ain't been right since.


mattdroz wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Boba Fett, without question. His death was the first travesty in the movie that became unhinged, and hinted of how the SW legacy would go in the future.
E-bloody-woks were a 300 foot neon sign that George had personally jumped the shark and everything else he touched was to be tainted by merchandising and greed.
Please. Everyone knows that George's official Jumping of the Selachimorpha was when he produced Howard the Duck. He just ain't been right since.

It's still worth watching; Lea Thompson is h-o-t!


You Riddick fanboys are nuts. He was f*in' cool in Pitch Black, but Chronicles was horrible. But throughout it all, I agree with KaeYoss, he's trying to hard to be bad, you know he's got a heart of "gold" under that rough exterior.

Fett, Fett didn't care about you, didn't care about jack except killin people and gettin money for it.

I was gonna finish this with a rip on you guys complaining about having to read the books and comics to know (I feel the implications in the original trilogy lets you know enough, and I'm a fan of the whole "behind the scenes mystery" technique of storytelling villians) how bad ass Fett is, but I figured calling you guys nuts was enough. Ripping on your reading comprehension would have just been insulting.


I have to believe that if the most recent Star Wars trilogy hadn't been such a disastrous abortion this thread could not exist.

Zo


It isn't that I think Riddick is cool, it is just that I can't see the guy who does little, then dies in an incredibly stupid manner as being the galaxy's biggest badass. Maybe if Fett had died is some kind of epic duel I'd think of him as more than just a random stormtrooper in a cooler suit.

I tend to discount most of the fiction because it tends to leave me wondering if the authors have actually viewed the movies they are using characters from. One author regresses the character, another advances him, and a third has him stuck without any growth whatsoever.

I mean, take most of the novels an it seems as if there is one big railroaded plotline in them. Luke, or an apprentice he has trained slips to the dark side. Again and again and again.

Aside from the Heir to the Empire series and the Rogue Squadron comics, most Star Wars fiction leaves me feeling like I have wasted too much time by reading it.

That, and the fact that Lucas himself has pretty much said that the only thing in any of the novels that counts as canon is Mara Jade.

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Jason Ellis 350 wrote:


Aside from the Heir to the Empire series and the Rogue Squadron comics, most Star Wars fiction leaves me feeling like I have wasted too much time by reading it.

That, and the fact that Lucas himself has pretty much said that the only thing in any of the novels that counts as canon is Mara Jade.

+1

I love reading but I hate most SW literature. To me its like food that was good when served, but now that its been microwaved again and again, its just not good anymore.

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And yet Lucas edited many of those stories he says don't count towards canon.

If Riddick were to stand before Vader and claim "He's no use to me dead!", Vader would force choke his a** and throw the body in the trash. The Fett got away with it, anybody who can get away with that is by far more Badass.

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Besides, the guys name is Dick Riddick. ;D

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