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Urizen wrote:
He's recovering very well. Support him by buying the Heaven & Hell concert DVD coming out soon. \m/

According to a posting on the BLACK SABBATH fan site Black-Sabbath.com, fans can send get-well cards to legendary heavy metal singer Ronnie James Dio (DIO, HEAVEN & HELL, BLACK SABBATH, RAINBOW) through the official fan club address here:

Dio Fan Club
12400 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 624
Studio City, CA
91604

Additionally, if you'd like to send an email to Ronnie, you can do so via getwellronnie@black-sabbath.com. After a short time, Black-Sabbath.com webmaster Joe Siegler will print them out and pass them over to Ronnie and his wife/manager Wendy Dio.

Ronnie James Dio was diagnosed with the early stages of stomach cancer and is currently receiving treatment at the Mayo Clinic.

Dio, 67, has performed with ELF, RAINBOW, BLACK SABBATH, and his own band DIO. Other musical projects include the collective fundraiser "Hear 'n Aid". He is widely hailed as one of the most powerful singers in heavy metal, renowned for his consistently powerful voice and for popularizing the "devil's horns" hand gesture in metal culture. He is currently involved with HEAVEN & HELL, a project which also includes Iommi and other former BLACK SABBATH bandmates Geezer Butler and Vinny Appice. Their first studio album, "The Devil You Know", was released on April 28, 2009.

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Bible black RJD!


Crimson Jester wrote:


[conspiracy theory rant]SHE IS A PLANT[/conspiracy theory rant]

No plant would be that obvious. Plus it's a gratuitous insult to plants to compare them to Palin.

Scarab Sages

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I don't think President Obama will opt for war with Iran. Im my humble opinion, he'll do everything he can to avoid that scenario.

Of course, the other question to ask is "Do we have to go to war with Iran?"

Once again, my opinion says "no". I believe that supporting the democracy movement in Iran is the best way to ensure a favorable outcome for the United States. From my understanding, this movement is already big, and continues to grow. A large percentage of the population is young (under 35 or something like that) and well-educated, and I think many of them support democratic reforms. By putting money and words behind something like that, we'll be better off. That let's the Iranian people themselves change their country, not have someone else do it for them.

Anyway, my 2 cents.


I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions

Silver Crusade

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

Spoiler:
(Turn around) every now and then I get a little bit lonely and you're never coming round
(Turn around) every now and then I get a little bit tired of listening to the sound of my tears
(Turn around) every now and then I get a little bit nervous that the best of all the years have gone by
(Turn around) every now and then I get a little bit terrified and then I see the look in your eyes

(Turn around, bright eyes) Every now and then I fall apart
(Turn around, bright eyes) Every now and then I fall apart

And I need you now tonight and I need you more than ever
And if you only hold me tight We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right 'cause we'll never be wrong
Together we can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time (all of the time)
I don't know what to do and I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight, forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight

Once upon a time I was falling in love, but now I'm only falling apart
There's nothing I can do... a total eclipse of the heart
Once upon a time there was light in my life, but now there's only love in the dark
Nothing I can say... a total eclipse of the heart

(Turn around) bright eyes, Every now and then I fall apart
(Turn around) bright eyes, Every now and then I fall apart

And I need you now tonight
And I need you more than ever
And if you'll only hold me tight
We'll be holding on forever
And we'll only be making it right
Cause we'll never be wrong together
We can take it to the end of the line
Your love is like a shadow on me all of the time (all of the time)
I don't know what to do, I'm always in the dark
We're living in a powder keg and giving off sparks
I really need you tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight
Forever's gonna start tonight

Once upon a time I was falling in love
But now I'm only falling apart
Nothing I can say
A total eclipse of the heart
A total eclipse of the heart


Samnell wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:


[conspiracy theory rant]SHE IS A PLANT[/conspiracy theory rant]
No plant would be that obvious. Plus it's a gratuitous insult to plants to compare them to Palin.

So I take it the Treants' Union will be filing a complaint?

The Exchange

Samnell wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:


[conspiracy theory rant]SHE IS A PLANT[/conspiracy theory rant]
No plant would be that obvious. Plus it's a gratuitous insult to plants to compare them to Palin.

Touche'

However if it is THAT obvious wouldn't it make it a better ploy, since no one in their right mind would believe it?

The Exchange

Celestial Healer wrote:

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

** spoiler omitted **...

well there was always the original way to end all of this. Just make the entire region one radioactive sheet of glass.[/sarcasm]


Crimson Jester wrote:


However if it is THAT obvious wouldn't it make it a better ploy, since no one in their right mind would believe it?

That would require the opposition to be in its right mind. Not always a wise assumption to make. If not for copyright law, The Daily show could just turn on a live feed of Fox News and it would never need writers again.

Liberty's Edge

**Clears throat**

The moonlight it was dancing
On the waves, out on the sea
The stars of heaven hovered
In a shimmering galaxy

A voice from down the ages
So haunting in its song
These ancient stones will tell us
Our love must make us strong

The breeze it wrapped around me
As I stood there on the shore
And listened to this voice
Like I never heard before

Our battles they may find us
No choice may ours to be
But hold the banner proudly
The truth will set us free

My mind was called across the years
Of rages and of strife
Of all the human misery
And all the waste of life

We wondered where our God was
In the face of so much pain
I looked up to the stars above
To find you once again

We travelled the wide oceans
Heard many call your name
With sword and gun and hatred
It all seemed much the same

Some used your name for glory
Some used it for their gain
Yet when liberty lay wanting
No lives were lost in vain

Is it not our place to wonder
As the sky does weep with tears
And all the living creatures
Look on with mortal fear

It is ours to hold the banner
Is ours to hold it long
It is ours to carry forward
Our love must make us strong

And as the warm wind carried
Its song into the night
I closed my eyes and tarried
Until the morning light

As the last star it shimmered
And the new sun's day gave birth
It was in this magic moment
Came this prayer for mother earth

The moonlight it was dancing
On the waves, out on the sea
The stars of heaven hovered
In a shimmering galaxy

A voice from down the ages
So haunting in its song
The ancient stones will tell us
Our love will make us strong


Wheels out some Midnight Oil from the 1980's that is relevant to this thread

US Forces

US forces give the nod
It's a setback for your country
Bombs and trenches all in rows
Bombs and threats still ask for more

Divided world the CIA
Who controls the issue
You leave us with no time to talk
You can write your own assessment

Sing me songs
of no denying
Seems to me too many trying
Waiting for the next big thing

Will you know it when you see it
High risk children
dogs of war
Now market movements call the shots
Business deals in parking lots
Waiting for the meat of tomorrow

Everyone is too stoned to start emission
People too scared to go to prison
We're unable to make decisions
Political party line don't cross that floor
L. Ron Hubbard can't save your life
Superboy takes a plutonium wife
In the shadows of Ban the Bomb we live

Sing me songs of no denying
Seems to me too many trying
Waiting for the next big thing


Also some Redgum from 1983.

I Was Only 19 (A Walk in the Light Green)

Mum and Dad and Denny saw the passing out parade at Puckapunyal, (It was long march from cadets).
The Sixth Battalion was the next to tour and it was me who drew the card…
We did Canungra and Shoalwater before we left.

And Townsville lined the footpath as we marched down to the quay;
This clipping from the paper shows us young and strong and clean;
And there's me in my slouch hat, with my SLR and greens…
God help me, I was only nineteen.

From Vung Tau riding Chinooks to the dust at Nui Dat,
I'd been in and out of choppers now for months.
But we made our tents a home, VB and pin-ups on the lockers,
and an Asian orange sunset through the scrub.

And can you tell me, doctor, why I still can't get to sleep?
And night time's just a jungle dark and a barking M16?
And what's this rash that comes and goes, can you tell me what it means?
God help me, I was only nineteen.

A four week operation, when each step could mean your last one on two legs:
it was a war within yourself.
But you wouldn't let your mates down 'til they had you dusted off,
so you closed your eyes and thought about something else.

Then someone yelled out "Contact"', and the bloke behind me swore.
We hooked in there for hours, then a God almighty roar;
Frankie kicked a mine the day that mankind kicked the moon: -
God help me, he was going home in June.

1 can still see Frankie, drinking tinnies in the Grand Hotel
on a thirty-six hour rec. leave in Vung Tau.
And I can still hear Frankie lying screaming in the jungle.
'Till the morphine came and killed the bloody row

And the Anzac legends didn't mention mud and blood and tears,
and stories that my father told me never seemed quite real
I caught some pieces in my back that I didn't even feel…
God help me, I was only nineteen.

And can you tell me, doctor, why I still can't get to sleep?
And why the Channel Seven chopper chills me to my feet?
And what's this rash that comes and goes, can you tell me what it means?
God help me,
I was only nineteen.


One last one by Eric Bogle

And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda

When I was a young man I carried me pack
And I lived the free life of the rover
From the Murray's green basin to the dusty outback
I waltzed my Matilda all over
Then in 1915 my country said: Son,
It's time to stop rambling, there's work to be done
So they gave me a tin hat and they gave me a gun
And they sent me away to the war

And the band played Waltzing Matilda
When the ship pulled away from the quay
And amid all the tears, flag waving and cheers
We sailed off for Gallipoli

It well I remember that terrible day
When our blood stained the sand and the water
And how in that hell they call Suvla Bay
We were butchered like lambs at the slaughter
Johnny Turk, he was ready, he primed himself well
He rained us with bullets, and he showered us with shell
And in five minutes flat, we were all blown to hell
He nearly blew us back home to Australia

And the band played Waltzing Matilda
When we stopped to bury our slain
Well we buried ours and the Turks buried theirs
Then it started all over again

Oh those that were living just tried to survive
In that mad world of blood, death and fire
And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive
While around me the corpses piled higher
Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head
And when I awoke in me hospital bed
And saw what it had done, I wished I was dead
I never knew there was worse things than dying

Oh no more I'll go Waltzing Matilda
All around the green bush far and near
For to hump tent and pegs, a man needs both legs
No more waltzing Matilda for me

They collected the wounded, the crippled, the maimed
And they shipped us back home to Australia
The armless, the legless, the blind and the insane
Those proud wounded heroes of Suvla
And when the ship pulled into Circular Quay
I looked at the place where me legs used to be
And thank Christ there was no one there waiting for me
To grieve and to mourn and to pity

And the Band played Waltzing Matilda
When they carried us down the gangway
Oh nobody cheered, they just stood there and stared
Then they turned all their faces away

Now every April I sit on my porch
And I watch the parade pass before me
I see my old comrades, how proudly they march
Renewing their dreams of past glories
I see the old men all tired, stiff and worn
Those weary old heroes of a forgotten war
And the young people ask "What are they marching for?"
And I ask myself the same question

And the band plays Waltzing Matilda
And the old men still answer the call
But year after year, their numbers get fewer
Someday, no one will march there at all

Waltzing Matilda, Waltzing Matilda
Who'll come a-Waltzing Matilda with me?
And their ghosts may be heard as they march by the billabong
So who'll come a-Waltzing Matilda with me?

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

I was riding on the Mayflower
When I thought I spied some land
I yelled for Captain Arab
I have yuh understand
Who came running to the deck
Said, "Boys, forget the whale
Look on over yonder
Cut the engines
Change the sail
Haul on the bowline"
We sang that melody
Like all tough sailors do
When they are far away at sea

"I think I'll call it America"
I said as we hit land
I took a deep breath
I fell down, I could not stand
Captain Arab he started
Writing up some deeds
He said, "Let's set up a fort
And start buying the place with beads"
Just then this cop comes down the street
Crazy as a loon
He throw us all in jail
For carryin' harpoons

Ah me I busted out
Don't even ask me how
I went to get some help
I walked by a Guernsey cow
Who directed me down
To the Bowery slums
Where people carried signs around
Saying, "Ban the bums"
I jumped right into line
Sayin', "I hope that I'm not late"
When I realized I hadn't eaten
For five days straight

I went into a restaurant
Lookin' for the cook
I told them I was the editor
Of a famous etiquette book
The waitress he was handsome
He wore a powder blue cape
I ordered some suzette, I said
"Could you please make that crepe"
Just then the whole kitchen exploded
From boilin' fat
Food was flying everywhere
And I left without my hat

Now, I didn't mean to be nosy
But I went into a bank
To get some bail for Arab
And all the boys back in the tank
They asked me for some collateral
And I pulled down my pants
They threw me in the alley
When up comes this girl from France
Who invited me to her house
I went, but she had a friend
Who knocked me out
And robbed my boots
And I was on the street again

Well, I rapped upon a house
With the U.S. flag upon display
I said, "Could you help me out
I got some friends down the way"
The man says, "Get out of here
I'll tear you limb from limb"
I said, "You know they refused Jesus, too"
He said, "You're not Him
Get out of here before I break your bones
I ain't your pop"
I decided to have him arrested
And I went looking for a cop

I ran right outside
And I hopped inside a cab
I went out the other door
This Englishman said, "Fab"
As he saw me leap a hot dog stand
And a chariot that stood
Parked across from a building
Advertising brotherhood
I ran right through the front door
Like a hobo sailor does
But it was just a funeral parlor
And the man asked me who I was

I repeated that my friends
Were all in jail, with a sigh
He gave me his card
He said, "Call me if they die"
I shook his hand and said goodbye
Ran out to the street
When a bowling ball came down the road
And knocked me off my feet
A pay phone was ringing
It just about blew my mind
When I picked it up and said hello
This foot came through the line

Well, by this time I was fed up
At tryin' to make a stab
At bringin' back any help
For my friends and Captain Arab
I decided to flip a coin
Like either heads or tails
Would let me know if I should go
Back to ship or back to jail
So I hocked my sailor suit
And I got a coin to flip
It came up tails
It rhymed with sails
So I made it back to the ship

Well, I got back and took
The parkin' ticket off the mast
I was ripping it to shreds
When this coastguard boat went past
They asked me my name
And I said, "Captain Kidd"
They believed me but
They wanted to know
What exactly that I did
I said for the Pope of Eruke
I was employed
They let me go right away
They were very paranoid

Well, the last I heard of Arab
He was stuck on a whale
That was married to the deputy
Sheriff of the jail
But the funniest thing was
When I was leavin' the bay
I saw three ships a-sailin'
They were all heading my way
I asked the captain what his name was
And how come he didn't drive a truck
He said his name was Columbus
I just said, "Good luck."


Celestial Healer wrote:

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

** spoiler omitted **...

Dude that spoiler is far eviler than a Rickroll.

Silver Crusade

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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

** spoiler omitted **...

Dude that spoiler is far eviler than a Rickroll.

*bows*


Celestial Healer wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

** spoiler omitted **...

Dude that spoiler is far eviler than a Rickroll.
*bows*

Brought back disturbing memories from the Eighties and a certain weepy ex-girlfriend .. Kudos my winged friend ..


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Incidentally, Iran wouldn't be "another front". It would be merging all of our fronts into one contiguous occupied state.

Of course, it's still not a good idea. I'm pretty much just being an ass at this point.

** spoiler omitted **...

Dude that spoiler is far eviler than a Rickroll.

I always like that song. :(

The Exchange

Samnell wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:


However if it is THAT obvious wouldn't it make it a better ploy, since no one in their right mind would believe it?
That would require the opposition to be in its right mind. Not always a wise assumption to make. If not for copyright law, The Daily show could just turn on a live feed of Fox News and it would never need writers again.

I think that the writers of the daily show are too talented to just leave a live feed of fox news on. Though I bet at one time they talked about it. :D

I find it funny that the conservatives that are on TV are so far right that they have all but come around left again and really don't speak for those of us who actually have a conservative view. Maybe they think we are all too busy watchen Wraslin' or soemthing.

The Exchange

Posting Blitz!


Crimson Jester wrote:
Posting Blitz!

OK. Why?


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Posting Blitz!
OK. Why?

I think in preparation for giving up (or at least seriously limiting ) posting for lent. Or something to that effect, I think.


I believe it was to get a certain thread put into the archives. Did I win the prize CJ?


Garydee wrote:
I believe it was to get a certain thread put into the archives. Did I win the prize CJ?

Nah, it was to boost his post count prior to his lenten departure; he posted his post total on his FB page that evening. :P


Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I believe it was to get a certain thread put into the archives. Did I win the prize CJ?
Nah, it was to boost his post count prior to his lenten departure; he posted his post total on his FB page that evening. :P

Dang it! I thought I had it.


Garydee wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I believe it was to get a certain thread put into the archives. Did I win the prize CJ?
Nah, it was to boost his post count prior to his lenten departure; he posted his post total on his FB page that evening. :P
Dang it! I thought I had it.

That's me after I fail miserably on a quiz. :P


Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I believe it was to get a certain thread put into the archives. Did I win the prize CJ?
Nah, it was to boost his post count prior to his lenten departure; he posted his post total on his FB page that evening. :P
Dang it! I thought I had it.
That's me after I fail miserably on a quiz. :P

That is a big post count.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
That is a big post count.

All of us are but dust in the wind next to Heathansson's...


Urizen wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
That is a big post count.
All of us are but dust in the wind next to Heathansson's...

I noticed that your post count is a lot higher than mine Urizen. When did you join Paizo?


Garydee wrote:
I noticed that your post count is a lot higher than mine Urizen. When did you join Paizo?

About this time last year. But I really didn't start posting until last Summer on a regular basis.

Dark Archive

Heathy even outshines the Paizo staff in post count.


Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I noticed that your post count is a lot higher than mine Urizen. When did you join Paizo?
About this time last year. But I really didn't start posting until last Summer on a regular basis.

I'm going on two years myself and my post count is well below most of those people who joined later than I did. Especially those who participate in the Fawtl thread.


Heathy posts in tongues.


Garydee wrote:
I'm going on two years myself and my post count is well below most of those people who joined later than I did. Especially those who participate in the Fawtl thread.

Well, you just post quality content whereas I'm just full of fluff and filler. Feel better now, Gary? ;)


Urizen wrote:
Heathy posts in tongues.

I agree. 50% of the time he says the most brilliant statements I've ever heard. The other 50% I can't figure out what the hell he's talking about.


Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I'm going on two years myself and my post count is well below most of those people who joined later than I did. Especially those who participate in the Fawtl thread.
Well, you just post quality content whereas I'm just full of fluff and filler. Feel better now, Gary? ;)

No! *whimpers*


Garydee wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I'm going on two years myself and my post count is well below most of those people who joined later than I did. Especially those who participate in the Fawtl thread.
Well, you just post quality content whereas I'm just full of fluff and filler. Feel better now, Gary? ;)
No! *whimpers*

You'll feel better once you put up a FB profile picture. *cough*


David Fryer wrote:
I wish Sarah Palin would just go away. She is not doing us conservatives any good.

She can't go away, that road she built up there doesn't GO anywhere! (vague reference to that whole alaskan road project thing, maybe you remember, maybe not)


Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Garydee wrote:
I'm going on two years myself and my post count is well below most of those people who joined later than I did. Especially those who participate in the Fawtl thread.
Well, you just post quality content whereas I'm just full of fluff and filler. Feel better now, Gary? ;)
No! *whimpers*
You'll feel better once you put up a FB profile picture. *cough*

I enjoy being a sock puppet. :) One day I'll do it....maybe.


aylengyr wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I wish Sarah Palin would just go away. She is not doing us conservatives any good.
She can't go away, that road she built up there doesn't GO anywhere! (vague reference to that whole alaskan road project thing, maybe you remember, maybe not)

The only thing good out of this Sarah Palin are Tina Fey's impersonation on SNL and Lisa Ann's impersonation in Hustler films. :P


Garydee wrote:
I enjoy being a sock puppet. :) One day I'll do it....maybe.

You're a pool player, just put up a picture of Minnesota Fats. :P


Garydee wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Heathy posts in tongues.
I agree. 50% of the time he says the most brilliant statements I've ever heard. The other 50% I can't figure out what the hell he's talking about.

You should be proud. Even Heathy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about 99% of the time.

Edited for that old-timey avatar.

Sovereign Court

Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions

I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.


Andrew Phillips wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions
I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.

Wraith!?


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Andrew Phillips wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions
I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.
Wraith!?

No, Splugorth.


The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Andrew Phillips wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions
I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.
Wraith!?
No, Splugorth.

???


The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Andrew Phillips wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions
I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.
Wraith!?
No, Splugorth.

Rifts! I've got it now!


Crimson Jester wrote:
The devil went down to Georgia...

Love that song, up there with House of the Rising Sun on my list of all time favorites.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Andrew Phillips wrote:
Frostflame wrote:
I don't think the U.S can afford another war. There are already American troops spread in Iraq and Afghanistan, opening another front against Iran would be a disastrous. The Iranian army is very well trained and they have alot of military equipment from Russia. Not to mention the fact other countries will oppose such actions
I was wondering where the soldiers would come from for the new war. There really is no option to start another conflict. Even if there was enough money it would take a Draft to get the troops and you know that ain't gonna happen, at least not without a planet wide invasion from Atlantis.
Wraith!?
No, Splugorth.
Rifts! I've got it now!

I am a big fan of the setting.

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