BTW, my sis got her daughter out after a couple of years by charging $400 and having a written contract with the rules. Trouble is my sons would never hold to a contract, so why try?My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
If they don't then you can legally evict them. Sounds hard but hey so is life. Tell them to suck it up.
Don't mean to sound like a hard ass, but this is a pet peeve of mine. If I was their father, well I can't really say what I would do without violating the boards policies, he he
piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These adults need to grow up.
Fixed it for ya. ;)
piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These adults need to grow up.Fixed it for ya. ;)
Thanks man! .
piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These adults need to grow up.Fixed it for ya. ;)
Sure, rub it in. Yes, they are legally 'adults'...
I'm afraid for the future. I have several friends with similar tales. These kids are gonna vote in euthanasia so they can take over our homes, cars, and gaming materials.
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piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These adults need to grow up.Fixed it for ya. ;)Sure, rub it in. Yes, they are legally 'adults'...
I'm afraid for the future. I have several friends with similar tales. These kids are gonna vote in euthanasia so they can take over our homes, cars, and gaming materials.
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Not our gaming materials!!!My wife and I have the "future" discussion about my son a lot. Fortunately, he seems interested in leaving the house when he graduates. :)
The token atheist here says these kids need a "Come to Jesus" pep talk, but of course you have to talk it out with the wife because if it's not a unified front, then it's definitely going to be moot. Ever thought about going to a counselor for an unbiased opinion? Given your recent ailment, I'd say something about having a 'bucket list' as you're starting to give a different / new perspective on life and if the spawn doesn't feel like they need to contribute, then you got to look out for number one.
Unfortunately, it's going to be rough before it gets better.
As for the son that only works 10 hours .... not everything has to be cash related. I'm sure you got something around the house that needs addressed. What? They can't do it? Ooops. I'm sorry, I only got food for your mother and I. Shouldn't have bought the damn game, boy. What? You want to drive my car? Fork over the insurance money; I got to pay for my medical bills. What? You don't have it? Shouldn't have bought the game, son. Better invest in a 10 speed.
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The token atheist here says these kids need a "Come to Jesus" pep talk, but of course you have to talk it out with the wife because if it's not a unified front, then it's definitely going to be moot. Ever thought about going to a counselor for an unbiased opinion? Given your recent ailment, I'd say something about having a 'bucket list' as you're starting to give a different / new perspective on life and if the spawn doesn't feel like they need to contribute, then you got to look out for number one.
Unfortunately, it's going to be rough before it gets better.
As for the son that only works 10 hours .... not everything has to be cash related. I'm sure you got something around the house that needs addressed. What? They can't do it? Ooops. I'm sorry, I only got food for your mother and I. Shouldn't have bought the damn game, boy. What? You want to drive my car? Fork over the insurance money; I got to pay for my medical bills. What? You don't have it? Shouldn't have bought the game, son. Better invest in a 10 speed.
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After much weeping and wailing we finally got our 22 yo to take the bus to work a few days now. I'm hoping that pushes him to save for a car and then whoolah! - my insurance goes down.
As for work, my wife used to gather the boys when they were young and vacate to her mom's when I worked around the house. In case I swore if something didn't go right. Basically taught them to run from work and head to candyland. I never got to teach them how to fix things. Or to swear properly. :P
Sure, rub it in. Yes, they are legally 'adults'...
Sorry man. I was just joking. I didn't mean rub it in on you.
Sorry man. I was just joking. I didn't mean rub it in on you.
Sure, rub it in. Yes, they are legally 'adults'...
Nah, just busting your chops. :P
I get these kids at work with the same mindset. Fresh out of college, they get my name from someone and I get an e-mail - 'The office down the hall was empty so I moved myself in. Can you have someone transfer my phone?' Seriously.
I get a chuckle replying and copying their manager.
I like Urizen's suggestion about an impartial 3rd party. It might help your wife see the solution, if it comes from someone else. Ultimately, you need a united front when you make a decision.
I like Urizen's suggestion about an impartial 3rd party. It might help your wife see the solution, if it comes from someone else. Ultimately, you need a united front when you make a decision.
Sadly, I've tried before. She's so fearful that she'll be judged. I've even offered to go to a generic church for counseling to make her feel safer. So, I've gone myself. That only helps so much.
Hopefully, she really meant what she said at lunchtime and we can be unified on this incident.
If I'm off work for an extended period my boys are really gonna hate me. No more party woo hoo.
This day sucks. Hard. :(Misery luvs company. Come snuggle up here. ;)
Vent away if you wish. I shouldn't be hogging the vent box.
Sigh. No venting. I feel like I'm gonna vomit, and literally ten seconds after I tell him that, husband says he wants to talk about our relationship. I don't want to. We're pretty much at an impasse and talking only ups the misery level. It's already pretty high. I've been depressed about it and have pretty much just gone into my little cocoon to try and escape from my own drama for a while.
Same old, same old. :(
This day sucks. Hard. :(Misery luvs company. Come snuggle up here. ;)
Vent away if you wish. I shouldn't be hogging the vent box.
Sigh. No venting. I feel like I'm gonna vomit, and literally ten seconds after I tell him that, husband says he wants to talk about our relationship. I don't want to. We're pretty much at an impasse and talking only ups the misery level. It's already pretty high. I've been depressed about it and have pretty much just gone into my little cocoon to try and escape from my own drama for a while.
Same old, same old. :(
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
It's that time of the month. The pain is so bad it makes me vomit sometimes. Probably way more info than you wanted. Sorry. :)
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It's that time of the month. The pain is so bad it makes me vomit sometimes. Probably way more info than you wanted. Sorry. :)
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
It sounds like you and my wife have a lot in common. Have you been tested for Endometriosis.
It's that time of the month. The pain is so bad it makes me vomit sometimes. Probably way more info than you wanted. Sorry. :)
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
That's OK. I've already made today Dirty Laundry Day.
Yep, bad timing on the relationship discussions when you're feeling crappy. It would kinda jade the whole thing. I keep replaying the exchange with my son to see if my medical problem has played a role in it. Also, how the lack of sleep last nite has influenced my outlook on things today. I suppose the same holds true for your thinking process. Though you are a girl, and girls are way different than guys. From a whole other planet so I'm told.
My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
But how to collect? These kids ignore bill collectors. And son #3 barely gets 10 hours per week at his current place. Utilities would be nice. Running electricity for 24 hrs a day adds up. Heck, I remember GIVING my parents rent at 19, and other money when I was younger still. And I always helped out. They never had to ask for either.
On an upside I spoke with my wife briefly. She's not pouncing on me like this is my fault. Seems like son #3 has been getting under her skin lately.
~stern look~ Remove the toys. End of story. Take them and sell them off to pay for their bills. Or put them at another location. start to make the place unpleasant for them to live there. NO FRIENDS until they start to follow some ground rules.
~stern look~ Remove the toys. End of story. Take them and sell them off to pay for their bills. Or put them at another location. start to make the place unpleasant for them to live there. NO FRIENDS until they start to follow some ground rules.
Yep, unpleasant it shall be. Son #3 luvs to camp out in the family room with the game system, holding it away from other family members. That game is over. I threw out the no friends for a while line last nite, when he 'escalated' the argument.
Maybe he'll get serious about the military. He's smart, so he could do well. Jobs are hard to come by around here. Maybe he just needs to live elsewher for a while, to gain some appreciation. It worked a bit with Son #2, though it didn't fix the lazy and sloppy parts.
On a related note, many of our family arguments (not just those including me) have occurred when someone has been playing video games. I bet there's a correlation btwn aggressiveness and games. Not just violence and games.
Calling one of you fart smellers to provide insight!
On a related note, many of our family arguments (not just those including me) have occurred when someone has been playing video games. I bet there's a correlation btwn aggressiveness and games.
~snarls at you~ No they are not! ~fires at some unkown alien on the screen~
~GRINS~
It sounds like you and my wife have a lot in common. Have you been tested for Endometriosis.It's that time of the month. The pain is so bad it makes me vomit sometimes. Probably way more info than you wanted. Sorry. :)
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
Even after reading that I have no idea what it is.
On a related note, many of our family arguments (not just those including me) have occurred when someone has been playing video games. I bet there's a correlation btwn aggressiveness and games.~snarls at you~ No they are not! ~fires at some unkown alien on the screen~
~GRINS~
At least you're not marking your territory by leaving controllers and cables all over the room. :P
At least you're not marking your territory by leaving controllers and cables all over the room. :POn a related note, many of our family arguments (not just those including me) have occurred when someone has been playing video games. I bet there's a correlation btwn aggressiveness and games.~snarls at you~ No they are not! ~fires at some unkown alien on the screen~
~GRINS~
~just as you finish that, you trip over my controller's cord~ Yes I do.
~just as you finish that, you trip over my controller's cord~ Yes I do.At least you're not marking your territory by leaving controllers and cables all over the room. :POn a related note, many of our family arguments (not just those including me) have occurred when someone has been playing video games. I bet there's a correlation btwn aggressiveness and games.~snarls at you~ No they are not! ~fires at some unkown alien on the screen~
~GRINS~
Arrggghhhh!!!
It sounds like you and my wife have a lot in common. Have you been tested for Endometriosis.It's that time of the month. The pain is so bad it makes me vomit sometimes. Probably way more info than you wanted. Sorry. :)
That sux. Is the thought of discussing it the cause of the nausea, or is it medical?
Yes Lynora, you should get tested, my wife had that earlier this year.
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Even after reading that I have no idea what it is.
My knowledge of it is still fairly limited. As simply as I can put it, it is basically menstrating on the outside of the uterus (sp?). This causes "adhesions" as this extra blood tissue doesn't really have anywhere to go. Some problems with it -- it's VERY difficult to diagnose. There are no scans that will find it. The only way to find out if someone for sure has it, is to cut them open and take a look. The other further problem is that there is no cure. There are some treatments that help to bring down the pain to a reasonable level, but nothing has been shown to take the pain away. Women with endometriosis typically have a lot more pain than normal during menstration cycles. They also may have pain during ovulation (like my wife) so that there may be two (yes, two) times a month of great pain. These adhesions can cause pain in other areas depending on where they have "adhered" to -- like bladder or intestines, etc. These adhesions can also block some things making it more difficult to get pregnant. It generally sucks with no cure. But sometimes giving a name or a reason to pain helps people understand it a little.
The FAWTL thread is kind of like a big dysfunctional family of its own :)
This is what happens when mom and dad ignore us.
Thanks for the info, Moff. To be honest, that sounds terrifying. Given that the last time I had a 'routine' operation I almost died, I'm not so keen on submitting to another surgery.:/
maybe it's time for some ... heavy petting.
Lynora, sorry to hear about you being sick. And, yeah, "relationship talk" shouldn't be done when one party is ill.
CrimJ, I hope you back gets back in. Actually, I know how painful that can be, so I hope you feel better soon.
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Lynora, sorry to hear about you being sick. And, yeah, "relationship talk" shouldn't be done when one party is ill.
CrimJ, I hope you back gets back in. Actually, I know how painful that can be, so I hope you feel better soon.
Thank you, the big problem just happens to be that I am still trying to 'clean out the garage' so we can move.
Good luck with everything Lynora.
maybe it's time for some ... heavy petting.Not really.
Come on. You know you want some.
Urizen can give you the Mardi Gras special. ;P
Thanks for the info, Moff. To be honest, that sounds terrifying. Given that the last time I had a 'routine' operation I almost died, I'm not so keen on submitting to another surgery.:/
Lynora, FB me if you need some advice on this please.
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Thanks for the info, Moff. To be honest, that sounds terrifying. Given that the last time I had a 'routine' operation I almost died, I'm not so keen on submitting to another surgery.:/
My wife has had 4 or 5 (hard to keep track) surgeries. She was scared to death of every one and is still scared to have another one. Your fear is justified. But you may still want to talk to your OBGYN about the possibility and what they might be able to do to help you out. Ironically, what really helps the most (from my limited experience) is for the woman to stop menstrating. This includes things like pregnancy and menopause. But early on, my wife was prescribed (basically) birth control stuff that pretty well kept anything from happening for 6 months. The idea with that is that the body will heal itself if it is given a chance.
Hope that helps and hope that things get better for you.
maybe it's time for some ... heavy petting.Not really.
My version involves not pulling donkey punches. :P
Am I alone or is this site dragging some serious ass? I'm not having problems elsewhere on the web.
Thanks for the info, Moff. To be honest, that sounds terrifying. Given that the last time I had a 'routine' operation I almost died, I'm not so keen on submitting to another surgery.:/My wife has had 4 or 5 (hard to keep track) surgeries. She was scared to death of every one and is still scared to have another one. Your fear is justified. But you may still want to talk to your OBGYN about the possibility and what they might be able to do to help you out. Ironically, what really helps the most (from my limited experience) is for the woman to stop menstrating. This includes things like pregnancy and menopause. But early on, my wife was prescribed (basically) birth control stuff that pretty well kept anything from happening for 6 months. The idea with that is that the body will heal itself if it is given a chance.
Hope that helps and hope that things get better for you.
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Am I alone or is this site dragging some serious ass? I'm not having problems elsewhere on the web.
You're not alone. It's dragging quite a lot.
You're not alone. It's dragging quite a lot.Am I alone or is this site dragging some serious ass? I'm not having problems elsewhere on the web.
Someone's watching high definition 3-d bovine pr0n on the company server again. I blame Cosmo.
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If you feel you must, get a second opinion. But I wouldn't sit on this despite whatever fears you may have with surgery. I had to knock a similar sense into my woman's head last year until she finally succumbed to the fact that she just had to get the d@mned gall bladder out instead of crossing her fingers on those homeopathic cement-tasting crap she kept doing for a 'cleanse.' Besides, after having my appendix burst and gall bladder removed the previous year (five hospital visits, four surgeries in 12 months), I wasn't feeling necessarily sympathetic. At least after she had the surgery to get it removed, there was definite signs of improvement with regard to the pain issue. Afterwards, because we met the OOP for insurance, that's when we decided to do gastic bypass for her. Made the right call back in December, far as I'm concerned. :D
Someone's watching high definition 3-d bovine pr0n on the company server again. I blame Cosmo.You're not alone. It's dragging quite a lot.Am I alone or is this site dragging some serious ass? I'm not having problems elsewhere on the web.
Me too. Cosmo is so weird!