Sorry to hear about that Emperor. I wonder why your wife can't see she's an enabler?
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So, guess who made the GRE's his b#~$!?
I felt really good about the writing portion as well, but I won't know how I did on those for a while yet since they have to be hand-scored.
Anyway, I also liked the philharmonic concert I went to on Saturday night. It was a good one.
Mini-rant:
I hate the whole idea of a computer-based time clock, because it takes the time associated with booting your computer off the clock. Now when I wait for this ancient machine to boot up, I get to know that it's on my own time.
On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this shit out.
So, guess who made the GRE's his b&~#@?
** spoiler omitted **
Anyway, I also liked the philharmonic concert I went to on Saturday night. It was a good one.
Mini-rant:
** spoiler omitted **On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this s&!& out.
Congratulations on the GRE! I remember doing pretty well on mine too.
I hope they can at least give you 5 weeks off. I guess you didn't realize it was a negotiation, not unlike buying a car. :)
Ooh, the 'I want him out of this house' line went over well with the wife. I managed 3 hrs sleep, broken up. This day will only get worse.
Thx, Team FAWTL.
That sucks. I understand what you are going through myself, having been through something similar more than once.
It's a difficult age they're in, E7. I remember when I was 20-ish: I was a freakin' pain in the ass. I hope you're able to get through it all with your sanity intact. Feel free to rant any time you need to.
Wath do you mean "Was"? I thought you still were? ~grins~
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On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this s&!& out.
I hope they can at least give you 5 weeks off. I guess you didn't realize it was a negotiation, not unlike buying a car. :)
It makes me glad I started with a higher number than I really needed :)
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It's a difficult age they're in, E7. I remember when I was 20-ish: I was a freakin' pain in the ass. I hope you're able to get through it all with your sanity intact. Feel free to rant any time you need to.Wath do you mean "Was"? I thought you still were? ~grins~
As we get older we just become pains-in-the-ass in new ways.
It makes me glad I started with a higher number than I really needed :)
On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this s&!& out.
I hope they can at least give you 5 weeks off. I guess you didn't realize it was a negotiation, not unlike buying a car. :)
~grins~ True. But they really need to give you the full six weeks.
GOoooooooooooooood morning Fawlty Towers!!!!
Spent most of the weekend working at the second job and taking care of friend's baby, who was being unusually bad this weekend(1.5 year old, crying a lot to the point he was shaking because he couldn't get his way). I just picked him up, told him he was being a brat and held him against me until my heartbeat calmed him down and he was able to sleep. Well I can't say he was being SO bad, he was playful at first(kept coming back to see me while I was doing internet work for the second job, which was funny- explorative baby noises were the last thing I expected to hear when I was checking out MSM hookup sites), then hungry(he loves udon noodles), then refusing to sleep. Apparently crying that loud and hard keeps you awake. I wish I could do that some days...but I digress. The heartbeat trick put him to sleep right quick. Unfortunately, it worked as well on me as it did on him, so we passed out together, much to the adulation of his mother, my wife and our friends. Sometimes being the only guy in the house rules. Sometimes.
The other night of the second job I was in the field in the village, and now that it's spring, it's getting gorgeous there, even at night. My partner for the shift and I were out until 3 in the morning looking for a semi-mythical place that sells milk and cookies until 3 in the morning. We were looking for the place for almost an hour until he got a free internet connection on his phone and discovered that it was across the street and down the block from our starting point. Ah, New York.
Finally, in other news, I've finally come up with a semi-workable exercise schedule for myself- after starting and stopping for the umpteenth time, it was getting new clothes this weekend that really did it for me- I'm swimming in a 38 waist, but a 36 is cut all wrong for me: I need to build more muscle. I've reached the limit in terms of what pseudo vegetarianism can do for me weightwise, and my body has gotten used to the bike- I've just got to start exercising/training again.
I'm also considering selling my reserve bike and my current folding bike to pick up one of these lovelies. The wife is complaining about the amount of space having two bikes takes up, even if one of them does fold. The price I've been quoted at the bike shop is about 500 for a new one, although I'm not sure which year they're stocking- if I sell both my bikes for 200 each(a generous mark-down, I think, although I'll have to check it against craigslist, I'll be within shooting range.
Aaand that's it for me, for now anyway.
So, guess who made the GRE's his b*#*%?
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Anyway, I also liked the philharmonic concert I went to on Saturday night. It was a good one.
Mini-rant:
** spoiler omitted **On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this s*#& out.
AWRIGHT CH!!!! Be sure to leave 20 bucks on the GRE's nightstand for the psychological blow. I hope to be with you there sometime soon. And I share the pain of computer punch-in.
It makes me glad I started with a higher number than I really needed :)
On other work-related news, I appealed to my manager about the summer leave thing, and offered to take only 5 weeks instead of 6, which he said might make a difference. Apparently the stuff he told me before about 4 weeks being a hard limit set by company policy was mostly BS, and they just didn't want me gone that long. Well, I'm going to be gone a LOT longer if they don't work this s&!& out.
I hope they can at least give you 5 weeks off. I guess you didn't realize it was a negotiation, not unlike buying a car. :)
You sneaky devil, you. Um, angel.
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GOoooooooooooooood morning Fawlty Towers!!!!
Huh. I had never heard about the heartbeat trick. When we had my daughter, I was responsible for getting her to sleep when she was a baby. I'd walk around with her for about 20 minutes, and she'd go to sleep and stay asleep for the whole night (unless she was sick). I held her close to my chest when I walked around with her, so I wonder if I was inadvertently doing the heartbeat trick.
Good luck with the exercise routine.
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Sorry for the dump, but I'm wide awake because of this.
Went through that period with my mother during that age. Her psychiatrist recommended her to boot us out. Technically, the issue was concerning my brother as he was the 'problem child'. I had to go because she didn't want to favor one or the other (but over the years, she did admit that if that weren't the case, I could have stayed longer). My sister didn't have to go that route as she was 13 (and 11) years younger than us (and I was 20 when I left).
They're living rent free and being disrepectful? I don't blame you one bit if you need to make that step. Maybe that'll give them some well needed lessons in maturity & responsibility.
So, guess who made the GRE's his b#&~*?
'gratz on smackin' around the GRE!
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Sorry for the dump, but I'm wide awake because of this.
Went through that period with my mother during that age. Her psychiatrist recommended her to boot us out. Technically, the issue was concerning my brother as he was the 'problem child'. I had to go because she didn't want to favor one or the other (but over the years, she did admit that if that weren't the case, I could have stayed longer). My sister didn't have to go that route as she was 13 (and 11) years younger than us (and I was 20 when I left).
They're living rent free and being disrepectful? I don't blame you one bit if you need to make that step. Maybe that'll give them some well needed lessons in maturity & responsibility.
I guess my post on the topic got eaten, E7, but if it's any consolation to you, the instant I realized it was my mom's way or the highway, I got the hell out of dodge. Of course we were having some..*ahem* issues with me being an only child and her being a single mom, but once I moved out it did a world of good for our relationship.
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My dad always said that after college we could stay at the house but we better have a plan to do something afterwards. He was always harassing me about what I was going to do next. So I stayed home for two years after college, saved money as I had no rent and bought a condo! Thank goodness he gave me that leeway.
E7, my advice is to either make your sons come up with a long-term plan or start making them pay rent and/or contributing to other bills like phones and food. That will drive them out quick!
E7,
In this month's Reader's Digest, I came across this:
Q: How much should we charge a child living at home? She graduated from college last year but hasn't found a "real" job in her field. In the meantime, she earns a decent salary working in a friend's office.
A: No blanket rule here. The real question, when it comes to family supporting family, is how you define payment. If your household needs the cash, then she should contribute: Check local rents and charge accordingly. If money is not the issue, consider doing yoru daughter an even greater service by requiring her participation as a family member: some cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, certain household bills she tracks and pays. Lessons in adult responsibility can be more valuable than cash.
E7,
In this month's Reader's Digest, I came across this:
Q: How much should we charge a child living at home? She graduated from college last year but hasn't found a "real" job in her field. In the meantime, she earns a decent salary working in a friend's office.
A: No blanket rule here. The real question, when it comes to family supporting family, is how you define payment. If your household needs the cash, then she should contribute: Check local rents and charge accordingly. If money is not the issue, consider doing yoru daughter an even greater service by requiring her participation as a family member: some cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, certain household bills she tracks and pays. Lessons in adult responsibility can be more valuable than cash.
Actually I have to disagree with this- my mom made me pay a few bills around the house here and there swearing that it was teaching me responsibility, but it added up in such a way that with the bills I had to pay from college and books and stuff, it kept me from moving out for a good year and a half. I think working with the people in question to come up with a solid date for moving and easing the transition would work better. Still, YMMV.
Sorry to hear about that Emperor. I wonder why your wife can't see she's an enabler?
'Cause she's more like her mother than she realizes. Her brothers are deadbeats. One didn't move out 'til he was 40! *shudder*
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Huh. I had never heard about the heartbeat trick. When we had my daughter, I was responsible for getting her to sleep when she was a baby. I'd walk around with her for about 20 minutes, and she'd go to sleep and stay asleep for the whole night (unless she was sick). I held her close to my chest when I walked around with her, so I wonder if I was inadvertently doing the heartbeat trick.GOoooooooooooooood morning Fawlty Towers!!!!
Vibrations will sometimes work well. My niece went to sleep well with the vacuum running in her room. She had the cleanest floor in the neighborhood.
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Actually I have to disagree with this- my mom made me pay a few bills around the house here and there swearing that it was teaching me responsibility, but it added up in such a way that with the bills I had to pay from college and books and stuff, it kept me from moving out for a good year and a half. I think working with the people in question to come up with a solid date for moving and easing the transition would work better. Still, YMMV.E7,
In this month's Reader's Digest, I came across this:
Q: How much should we charge a child living at home? She graduated from college last year but hasn't found a "real" job in her field. In the meantime, she earns a decent salary working in a friend's office.
A: No blanket rule here. The real question, when it comes to family supporting family, is how you define payment. If your household needs the cash, then she should contribute: Check local rents and charge accordingly. If money is not the issue, consider doing yoru daughter an even greater service by requiring her participation as a family member: some cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, certain household bills she tracks and pays. Lessons in adult responsibility can be more valuable than cash.
If money's tight all around, it may end up being unavoidable. However, if the parent is doing fine without the money, they should put the payment away and save it up for a downpayment on a house/condo/etc.
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Good morning all. I think I'm pretty well caught up.
E7 -- good luck. My brother will be going through something very similar in six years or so. It's a hard balance to keep between the "kids" (not really kids at 20) and the wife. Good luck.
Weather here has been surprisingly good. Decided to do the garden thing again this year. (Last year ended up letting the plot go fallow -- which is gardening talk for being lazy.) Planting zucchini, spinach, lettuce, carrots, and sunflowers. Also planted a number of bulb flowers this year. Hopefully the columbine will work where I put them.
E7,
In this month's Reader's Digest, I came across this:
Q: How much should we charge a child living at home? She graduated from college last year but hasn't found a "real" job in her field. In the meantime, she earns a decent salary working in a friend's office.
A: No blanket rule here. The real question, when it comes to family supporting family, is how you define payment. If your household needs the cash, then she should contribute: Check local rents and charge accordingly. If money is not the issue, consider doing yoru daughter an even greater service by requiring her participation as a family member: some cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, certain household bills she tracks and pays. Lessons in adult responsibility can be more valuable than cash.
Careful what you offer:
Boring and painful details -
22 yo works in retail, but spends every $ on fun, including $ he should be paying for his student loan. Bill collector calls are common. To my house phone, 'til I started giving out his latest cell. The wife took out a loan for him AGAINST MY WISHES to go to a trade school, $7k, which he has totally ignored. He likes to sleep 'til 4 when not working. He's the rock n roller.
20 yo is in his 2nd yr of comm college, taking the minimum # of credit hours to maintain full-time status. He works really part time, but stays up all night on Xbox, even on school nights. He recently broke up with his gf, so I haven't pressed him hard. Last nite's blow up was about his constant refusal to set limits on how late his loser buddies can hang out. We set midnight Sun-Thurs, 1 am on weekends. His friends are good kids, and so is he, but they are so frikkin' lazy! I was a douche by pointing out the hours violation at 1:30, then refusing to let him use MY CAR to drive his lazy ass loser friend home. Even tho he had a eye doc appt this morning and said he was going to 'do some job hunting today' he thinks its OK to stay up all night.
On top of all this all the kids, including my 15 yo daughter, are slobs! With me home all day lately I have to look at this crap.
As for money issues, it's tight. We fail to cover 'expenses' regularly. We fall too quickly into the fast food trap. I feel guilty about spending money on myself, then she turns around and blows a couple hundies on clothes for the GROWN kids. I'm the only one that feels the $ burden. I feel so frikkin old![/end rant]
So, guess who made the GRE's his b#*~&?
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Outstanding!!!!! :)
If money's tight all around, it may end up being unavoidable. However, if the parent is doing fine without the money, they should put the payment away and save it up for a downpayment on a house/condo/etc.
I dreamt of this at one point.
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Hmm. I couldn't wait to get out of my parents' house. I went to college after high school and lived in a dorm, then I came home the summer after my freshman year and absolutely hated living at home, having to be home at a certain time, and not having any privacy. That summer, when I was 19, is the last time I lived with my parents.
It's hard for me to understand why somebody would want to stretch that out. I can understand it being necessary under certain circumstances, but moving would always be my first priority.
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Maury had a show on about spirits and ghosts. They had ghost hunters checking out their studios. I was a little taken aback from the newspaper headline they showed. "Kirk Moore plunges to his death from 17th floor window."
This explains oh so much.
It takes guts to admit that, CrimJ. I think I would have made up some other source for that story rather than admit I was watching Maury ;)
More to the point, however, it would take more than a 17 story fall to keep our Moorluck down.
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Maury had a show on about spirits and ghosts. They had ghost hunters checking out their studios. I was a little taken aback from the newspaper headline they showed. "Kirk Moore plunges to his death from 17th floor window."
This explains oh so much.
It takes guts to admit that, CrimJ. I think I would have made up some other source for that story rather than admit I was watching Maury ;)
More to the point, however, it would take more than a 17 story fall to keep our Moorluck down.
I did not choose what was on. I am at work and someone, some strange person, changed the channel and left it on. I glanced and they show this headline. I am in such shock I don't change the channel. It is still on in fact.
Maury had a show on about spirits and ghosts. They had ghost hunters checking out their studios. I was a little taken aback from the newspaper headline they showed. "Kirk Moore plunges to his death from 17th floor window."
This explains oh so much.
It takes guts to admit that, CrimJ. I think I would have made up some other source for that story rather than admit I was watching Maury ;)
More to the point, however, it would take more than a 17 story fall to keep our Moorluck down.
Would it had been better if he had said Oprah?
I eventually had to move back home after experiencing an auto accident and a fall down a flight of stairs seven days later. It was mom's decision. I cannot remember why my brother moved back home. I didn't have that problem with my mother; she never gave me any curfew boundaries and on at least one occassion she actually let a girl come into the house while I was sleeping. Eventually, she decided to try living with my sister's father and was going to rent out the family home to my brother and his friends. I knew it was time to get my ass out of there a month after she moved because my brother's friends were getting high all the time and constantly eating & drinking my stuff from the fridge (I actually bought a mini fridge and put it in my room as a reaction to this).
Good luck, E7. One way or another, it does look like you and your wife will have to tackle this topic one way or another despite it being an uncomfortable topic.
Hmm. I couldn't wait to get out of my parents' house. I went to college after high school and lived in a dorm, then I came home the summer after my freshman year and absolutely hated living at home, having to be home at a certain time, and not having any privacy. That summer, when I was 19, is the last time I lived with my parents.
It's hard for me to understand why somebody would want to stretch that out. I can understand it being necessary under certain circumstances, but moving would always be my first priority.
LOL. It's the latest generation. I am not alone in this. We're really lax about a lot of things, not many rulz. But, since I've been home, noise has been a big hot button for me. I should be able to head to the couch in the living room if the wife is snoring, without having to worry about visitors being over.
Heck I got married and moved out 2 months before I turned 22, and was a dad at 22. I still went home and helped my parents, while my older brother was out having a good time.
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Hmm. I couldn't wait to get out of my parents' house. I went to college after high school and lived in a dorm, then I came home the summer after my freshman year and absolutely hated living at home, having to be home at a certain time, and not having any privacy. That summer, when I was 19, is the last time I lived with my parents.
It's hard for me to understand why somebody would want to stretch that out. I can understand it being necessary under certain circumstances, but moving would always be my first priority.
My experience was very similar. However, after being on my own for quite a while, I found myself under a lot of debt. I moved back home for around 6 months (about all I could stand) and put every cent toward my debt. Ended up paying off around 20k in credit cards in around 2 and a half years.
And the thing is, I love/loved my parents dearly. They are wonderful people. But I wanted independence and independence while living with your parents seems like a contradiction to me.
Garydee, msg sent to FB, he he
Good luck, E7. One way or another, it does look like you and your wife will have to tackle this topic one way or another despite it being an uncomfortable topic.
Tried this. My wife refuses to discuss most of it, especially when it comes to setting limits and enforcing them.
Hmm. I couldn't wait to get out of my parents' house. I went to college after high school and lived in a dorm, then I came home the summer after my freshman year and absolutely hated living at home, having to be home at a certain time, and not having any privacy. That summer, when I was 19, is the last time I lived with my parents.
It's hard for me to understand why somebody would want to stretch that out. I can understand it being necessary under certain circumstances, but moving would always be my first priority.
My experience was very similar. However, after being on my own for quite a while, I found myself under a lot of debt. I moved back home for around 6 months (about all I could stand) and put every cent toward my debt. Ended up paying off around 20k in credit cards in around 2 and a half years.
And the thing is, I love/loved my parents dearly. They are wonderful people. But I wanted independence and independence while living with your parents seems like a contradiction to me.
Heh, I posted something along this line last nite. They want independence, but at someone else's nickel.
Good luck, E7. One way or another, it does look like you and your wife will have to tackle this topic one way or another despite it being an uncomfortable topic.Tried this. My wife refuses to discuss most of it, especially when it comes to setting limits and enforcing them.
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May have to pull some of Sun Tzu's tricks of reverse psychology in the near future.
Garydee, msg sent to FB, he he
Thanks!
LOL. It's the latest generation.
It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)
You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.
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My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
[whine]But that's not fair! I was going to Tashi Station to pick up some power converters![/whine]
My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
But how to collect? These kids ignore bill collectors. And son #3 barely gets 10 hours per week at his current place. Utilities would be nice. Running electricity for 24 hrs a day adds up. Heck, I remember GIVING my parents rent at 19, and other money when I was younger still. And I always helped out. They never had to ask for either.
On an upside I spoke with my wife briefly. She's not pouncing on me like this is my fault. Seems like son #3 has been getting under her skin lately.
This day sucks. Hard. :(
[whine]But that's not fair! I was going to Tashi Station to pick up some power converters![/whine]My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
So close it could be true. We got son #3 out of his $85 per month phone bill by rolling him into an expanded plan for us. He was supposed to pay $35. 2 months and no money, but he made it to the concert and movies, a bought a new video game.
[whine]But that's not fair! I was going to Best Buy to pick up the new Splinter Cell![/whine]
My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
BTW, my sis got her daughter out after a couple of years by charging $400 and having a written contract with the rules. Trouble is my sons would never hold to a contract, so why try?
This day sucks. Hard. :(
Misery luvs company. Come snuggle up here. ;)
Vent away if you wish. I shouldn't be hogging the vent box.
My piece of advice, start charging these kids rent, and not any piddling sum either, try 400 bucks a month, and going as high as 800 bucks. Charging for utilities would also be good. These kids need to grow up.You mean that's not for Millenium? ;)It's called Generation Me for a reason. :)
LOL. It's the latest generation.
But how to collect? These kids ignore bill collectors. And son #3 barely gets 10 hours per week at his current place. Utilities would be nice. Running electricity for 24 hrs a day adds up. Heck, I remember GIVING my parents rent at 19, and other money when I was younger still. And I always helped out. They never had to ask for either.
On an upside I spoke with my wife briefly. She's not pouncing on me like this is my fault. Seems like son #3 has been getting under her skin lately.
Have then sign legal papers. You can get those downloaded and printed out anywhere from most state websites. I had to sign lease papers when I lived with my roomate before. It is for your protection, and theirs as well. When they move out they will be signing these papers, so they had better get used to it.
advice given TotP, he he