I don't have any sensitivities that I know of, and I'm only allergic to apple peel--it actually blisters my lips; it's an immediate reaction :-(I'm allergic to any fruit that has a core or pit. (Apples, Pears, Peaches, Plums, Cherries, etc.) They make my mouth and throat swell and itch, but only when they're raw. If they've been cooked, they don't bother me at all (apple sauce, apple pie, peach cobbler, marachino cherries, apple cider). Riddle me that one. When I want healthy raw fruit, I stick with citrus, melons, and berries.
Plus respiratory allergies to some type of pollen (ragweed is the most likely culprit), mold, and cigarette smoke (that one came out of nowhere in the last year or two).
I wonder if the reaction to pitted fruits is related to their propensity to accumulate metals?
I have one or two friends who developed violent cigarette allergies in adulthood also.
I don't have any sensitivities that I know of, and I'm only allergic to apple peel--it actually blisters my lips; it's an immediate reaction :-(I'm allergic to any fruit that has a core or pit. (Apples, Pears, Peaches, Plums, Cherries, etc.) They make my mouth and throat swell and itch, but only when they're raw. If they've been cooked, they don't bother me at all (apple sauce, apple pie, peach cobbler, marachino cherries, apple cider). Riddle me that one. When I want healthy raw fruit, I stick with citrus, melons, and berries.
Plus respiratory allergies to some type of pollen (ragweed is the most likely culprit), mold, and cigarette smoke (that one came out of nowhere in the last year or two).
I wonder if the reaction to pitted fruits is related to their propensity to accumulate metals?
I have one or two friends who developed violent cigarette allergies in adulthood also.
Mine wasn't exactly violent, but I did notice some swelling when I started hanging out with smokers or making out with them.
It's interesting to see what everyone is allergic to, but back to the topic -- well, the guy in the article isn't. The Earth has its own natural electromagnetic field; that's why compasses work. You're bathed in it 24 hours a day, no matter where you are. So were the dinosaurs. And it's a lot more intense than the minute signal given off by a WiFi, for example, which won't even budge a compass needle.
Problems hearing ultra-high or ultra-low frequency sounds, as Andrew describes? Check. The lights in my bathroom drive me nuts. But that's an audio thing (not an electromagnetic wave thing) that has nothing to do with your neighbor.
@Samnell -- Amen. I explain to people all the time that oleander is 100% natural and therefore wholesome. You should smoke all your food on all-natural organic oleander wood!
It's interesting to see what everyone is allergic to, but back to the topic -- well, the guy in the article isn't. The Earth has its own electromagnetic field; that's why compasses work. You're bathed in it 24 hours a day, no matter where you are. So were the dinosaurs. And it's a lot more intense than the minute signal given off by a WiFi, for example, which won't even budge a compass needle.
Problems hearing ultra-high or ultra-low frequency sounds, as Andrew describes? Check. The lights in my bathroom drive me nuts. But that's an audio thing (not an electromagnetic wave thing) that has nothing to do with your neighbor.
Haha. Todd beat you to it, Kirth.
Me? I was all ready to bring the guy in for tests.
And BTW, we know the Earth has a magnetic field. We also know that different frequencies of EM radiation have different physical effects which I suspect made cases of electrosensitivity deserving enough for scientific tests (by scientists who also know about the Earth's EM field, BTW).... ;)
Wifi dude is a dead topic. We're on to bigger and better things.
So while we're sharing, fluorescent lighting give me eye ache and I hate the buzz, too. I can also see in the dark really well. Don't bother, I already know why.
@Samnell -- Amen. I explain to people all the time that oleander is 100% natural and therefore wholesome. You should smoke all your food on all-natural organic oleander wood! ** spoiler omitted **
I have a beef.
While I agree with Todd, Samnell, and you on that one... (Believe me, I am in marketing and I've used it myself--for my part I know when I'm getting spin on this one so I don't give a s!#+.)
I would like to add something to the "Natural" issue... (OK, mostly because Samnell and Todd have now derided it, called it a marketing ploy, and Todd has (rather offensively) implied that gullible yuppies (myself?) are being ripped off with it.)
(A) NOT NATURAL
For me natural is not branding, it's NOT pissing chemicals into everything we eat. I have corn allergies. When I called the US manufacturer of my medicines and ask if there is trace corn they said they are not required by law to divulge this information. My brother who is a doctor got the same result. They then offered to direct me to their brand of anti-histamine (which it turns out I am allergic to). Basically, they're happy suggesting that I should just endure my allergies and use more meds to clear up symptoms caused by foods that are chemically drenched and medicine that's full of my allergens. NOT NATURAL.
(B) NATURAL
I find out what I'm allergic to and eliminate it from my diet. I eat foods that are not covered in chemicals (as best I can). This is natural. If I have a tummy ache (high stomach acid) from some trace corn in my food (usu bread) I drink organic chamomile tea instead of taking TUMS (w corn starch) or Zantac (with corn derived binders). Organic chamomile tea works almost as well as Zantac. Interestingly, as I live like this, minor health problems I've been having that I did not think related to my allergies disappear. Now I am taking NO meds. That's NATURAL.
I tried (A) and it did not work. I tried (B) and it is working wonderfully. Let's see you make fun of that, Todd (Also, if you see this, Mr. Stewart, please read back to the part about my Grandfather dying because of drug interactions between FDA approved pharm because I think you ought to, having made certain assertions about the danger of natural remedies).
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Yellow Jackets sting will kill me. and no not the Disney/Variety. which is why we no longer live on the west coast. The ER time and almost dying kinda makes one want to move.
Penacillin and said family of drug do much the same for me.
I realized something. I have used up 3 of my nine lives.
So while we're sharing, fluorescent lighting give me eye ache and I hate the buzz, too. I can also see in the dark really well. Don't bother, I already know why.
You too? It's a running joke around here that I have low-light vision. I'm constantly turning off lights. It just doesn't need to be that bright...Of course normal people seem to feel differently about that. :)
My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
I have a beef. I would like to add something to the "Natural" issue...
What you're calling for seems more like an issue of TRANSPARENCY vs. OPACITY, not NATURAL vs. ARTIFICIAL. If you're allergic to corn (corn is natural, btw), you should be able to find out what products -- natural and artificial -- contain corn, are made with corn, or have corn as an ingredient in them. I sure as hell won't argue about that!
As far as pumping livestock full of antibiotics and growth hormones, that's unnatural, yes, and it's also stupid in the long run. Using animal husbandry to increase yields or maximize resistance to condition X is likewise unnatural, but a lot less harmful. That's now an issue of side effects, however, and not an issue of natural vs. otherwise.
My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
I can deal with that okay. ....Alright so I wear hats a lot since sunglasses don't work well for me since I wear glasses. But driving at night is a b$*+%. All those bright lights glaring right into my face from the other cars. :/
Kirth,
I found out that I can get the information I need from drug manufacturers outside the US (I don't even live there, I just bought some medicine there) so it's not my problem. You guys call for transparency if you like. Me, I solved my allergy issue using nothing artificial: that seems to me to be an issue of NATURAL vs. ARTIFICIAL.
Results may vary, and I'm not a doctor. Certainly there are times when pharmaceuticals are needed, but a common problem that I'm sure we can all agree with is that pharmaceutical companies would like us to use their drugs even when they are not needed. I suggest finding a good doctor. I have one, although he's a long way away, and he prefers natural remedies when they are safe and viable (no, this does not necessarily mean a visit to the hippie/yuppie herb outlet).
I don't know how animal husbandry got into this but it seems pertinent to something that worries me. It seems to me that husbandry (breeding) is a MORE natural way of increasing yields than pumping them full of chemies. Hunting wild game is not doable (well, I do go fishing when I can).
Perhaps natural/non-natural is not just a simple binary.
I don't know how animal husbandry got into this but it seems pertinent to something that worries me. It seems to me that husbandry (breeding) is a MORE natural way of increasing yields than pumping them full of chemies. Perhaps natural/non-natural is not just a simple binary.
Indeed, because the MOST natural would be to avoid processing or cooking the food, which would lead to all kinds of interesting parasitic infections and diseases from consuming it. Cooking and preparation is less natural, but smarter. Animal husbandry is less natural still, but still not harmful. It's more natural than overusing chemicals, and also smarter. Other examples of more/less natural vs. more/less viable outcome can easily be listed. In the end, one sees that there are more vs. less healthy solutions, which despite the attraction of 1:1 simplicity in life, do NOT correlate exactly with more vs. less "natural" ones.
P.S. Corn syrup is natural, by itself -- it can be made by the action of two naturally-occurring enzymes on 100% natural corn starch -- but it would still irritate your allergy. So it's not natural vs. non-natural; it's corn vs. not corn.
P.P.S. I'm not trying to be a dick here; you know I respect you -- it's just in this instance it seems like an oversimplification that proves a "pat" answer, also on occasion provides a wrong answer.
I don't know how animal husbandry got into this but it seems pertinent to something that worries me. It seems to me that husbandry (breeding) is a MORE natural way of increasing yields than pumping them full of chemies. Perhaps natural/non-natural is not just a simple binary.Indeed, because the MOST natural would be to avoid processing or cooking the food, which would lead to all kinds of interesting parasitic infections and diseases from consuming it. Cooking and preparation is less natural, but smarter. Animal husbandry is less natural still, but still not harmful. It's more natural than overusing chemicals, and also smarter. Other examples of more/less natural vs. more/less viable outcome can easily be listed. In the end, one sees that there are more vs. less healthy solutions, which despite the attraction of 1:1 simplicity in life, do NOT correlate exactly with more vs. less "natural" ones.
P.S. Corn syrup is natural, by itself -- it can be made by the action of two naturally-occurring enzymes on 100% natural corn starch -- but it would still irritate your allergy. So it's not natural vs. non-natural; it's corn vs. not corn.
P.P.S. I'm not trying to be a dick here; you know I respect you -- it's just in this instance it seems like an oversimplification that proves a "pat" answer, also on occasion provides a wrong answer.
And I am also allergic to corn. It's natural. That's entirely not my point.
Otherwise we are in agreement.
Incidentally, I do try to eat raw foods when I can. And I've never been poisoned by those raw foods that I do consume: sushi, eggs, vegetables, fruits, and some nuts (raw peanuts are very popular here).
With raw food you have to start small and build. We become resistant to the bacteria as we eat it. There are, of course, some things that one should not eat raw because they are prone to massive bacterial populations which can be very toxic. Of course I don't even eat chicken when it's cooked so...
Of these raw things I eat, eggs are an interesting example because 'organic' eggs contain more bacteria than production eggs. That seems scary, but when they are really bad you can see it by the color, consistency of the yolk, and if really bad by the smell. It seems to work well for me. Results may vary, or even get you hospitalized. But eating processed foods gets me hospitalized 90% of the time so that doesn't seem like a big deal to me now.
... sushi...
I mean sashimi.
Wow! You made a comment I'm in complete agreement with.
It happens to everyone eventually, I'm sorry to say.
You'll never quite feel clean again, but I am informed that scalding showers (with all-natural boiling water!) and scrubbing with bits of broken glass (100% natural sand!) and rusty nails (old fashioned!), followed by a vigorous salt-rub can reduce the sensation. :)
I've heard stories about people experimenting with self-immolation, but the side-effects can be deleterious to one's health. I don't recommend it, but if you want I can refer you to the homicidal pyromaniac next door. He's lonely and loves visitors. Makes the greatest well-done hamburgers too. This isn't biasing me at all, but I should tell you that every time he gets a referral from me, he invites me over to have some. Hell of a guy.
I would like to add something to the "Natural" issue... (OK, mostly because Samnell and Todd have now derided it, called it a marketing ploy, and Todd has (rather offensively) implied that gullible yuppies (myself?) are being ripped off with it.)
Of note, I qualify for yuppie status myself. But there's a certain subset of the group that I'm happily deriding. I once worked in a lab that shared space with a hippie foodstore. Between the aisle of ear candling supplies and the extensive and expensive homeopathy aisle combined with creepy people walking down the hill and trying to stare into our windows and telling us that we must be doing things that "weren't natural", I tend to look sideways at the type rather often.
(A) NOT NATURAL
For me natural is not branding, it's NOT pissing chemicals into everything we eat. I have corn allergies. When I called the US manufacturer of my medicines and ask if there is trace corn they said they are not required by law to divulge this information.
If not required by the FDA* they don't want to give out the information because either as an excipient or adjuvant that inactive ingredient of a drug modifies the absorption or activity of a given drug. They don't give that out because it's part of what they spend tons of $ on developing, and what generics and competitors have to likewise spend lag time in developing even once a drug has been patented and its formulation released. Trade secrets butting heads against patient health is always a tricky issue.
*(in the case of allergens affecting any decent number of people (not sure what the threshold should be) I'm of the opinion it should be required in labeling just like "this was processed in a facility that also processes peanuts, etc")
Let's see you make fun of that, Todd (Also, if you see this, Mr. Stewart, please read back to the part about my Grandfather dying because of drug interactions between FDA approved pharm because I think you ought to, having made certain assertions about the danger of natural remedies).
My father died of an allergic reaction (to talc).
Of note, I qualify for yuppie status myself....
Fair enough. My beef is cooked.
But there's a certain subset of the group that I'm happily deriding. I once worked in a lab that shared space with a hippie foodstore. Between the aisle of ear candling supplies and the extensive and expensive homeopathy aisle combined with creepy people walking down the hill and trying to stare into our windows and telling us that we must be doing things that "weren't natural", I tend to look sideways at the type rather often.
I've had my share of "back to the garden of Eden" encounters too.
... expensive homeopathy aisle...
Don't get me started.
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Hey Kirth, not to argue on what is natural and unnatural, but the majority of the crops produced in the US are from a handful of strains (for each type of veg) of genetically modified seeds. That to me is unnatural although I am not sure of the actual definition.
Big Business farming is run much like a mafia with only a couple of corporations having their hand in producing a vast majority of our food. Join in and use those seeds or your little farm is in peril. They put a lot of pressure on independent farms. Damn, I wish I remembered the name of that documentary I saw....
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Hey Kirth, not to argue on what is natural and unnatural, but the majority of the crops produced in the US are from a handful of strains (for each type of veg) of genetically modified seeds. That to me is unnatural although I am not sure of the actual definition.
Big Business farming is run much like a mafia with only a couple of corporations having their hand in producing a vast majority of our food. Join in and use those seeds or your little farm is in peril. They put a lot of pressure on independent farms. Damn, I wish I remembered the name of that documentary I saw....
And God help you if bees pollinate your non-modified crops with Monsanto genetic IP, then you have no choice but to pay them.
That's rich. Yes. Very rich.
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If not required by the FDA* they don't want to give out the information because either as an excipient or adjuvant that inactive ingredient of a drug modifies the absorption or activity of a given drug. They don't give that out because it's part of what they spend tons of $ on developing, and what generics and competitors have to likewise spend lag time in developing even once a drug has been patented and its formulation released. Trade secrets butting heads against patient health is always a tricky issue.
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BTW, you can read the patent applications as soon as they are processed. You don't need to wait for the patents. I've done patent research for industry. It's easy.
And it seems to me that nobody with the laboratories needed to create drugs has any trouble releasing generic versions of drugs by the time a patent expires, I really don't know where you're getting this.
This secrecy only harms regular Americans. But hey, at least they can call the Canadian producers, so no big deal, right?
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Food, Inc. ?Hey Kirth, not to argue on what is natural and unnatural, but the majority of the crops produced in the US are from a handful of strains (for each type of veg) of genetically modified seeds. That to me is unnatural although I am not sure of the actual definition.
Big Business farming is run much like a mafia with only a couple of corporations having their hand in producing a vast majority of our food. Join in and use those seeds or your little farm is in peril. They put a lot of pressure on independent farms. Damn, I wish I remembered the name of that documentary I saw....
That's the one, thanks bro.
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...The Earth has its own natural electromagnetic field; that's why compasses work. You're bathed in it 24 hours a day, no matter where you are. So were the dinosaurs. And it's a lot more intense than the minute signal given off by a WiFi, for example, which won't even budge a compass needle...
This is almost exactly what the doc said in class the other day; it's what he meant by saying the guy wouldn't be able to live anywhere.
I'm beginning to think we all took really way-out there Flaws in exchange for beaucoup Freebie Points from the man upstairs.
I can deal with that okay. ....Alright so I wear hats a lot since sunglasses don't work well for me since I wear glasses. But driving at night is a b%@!&. All those bright lights glaring right into my face from the other cars. :/My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
I hate bright lights, too. They make me sparkle.
Hey Kirth, not to argue on what is natural and unnatural, but the majority of the crops produced in the US are from a handful of strains (for each type of veg) of genetically modified seeds. That to me is unnatural although I am not sure of the actual definition.
True! But despite sinister appelations such as "Frankenfoods," a genetically-modified organism (GMO) is chemically and biologically indentical to one that's been bred over a long period of time for certain traits -- we just compress the breeding time, in essence. Therefore, it's "unnatural" in the same sense that breeding is.
Now, big business (argibusiness, pharmaceuticals) is its own topic -- but that's a separate topic from what's "unnatural."
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I hate bright lights, too. They make me sparkle.I can deal with that okay. ....Alright so I wear hats a lot since sunglasses don't work well for me since I wear glasses. But driving at night is a b%@!&. All those bright lights glaring right into my face from the other cars. :/My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
Its all the Frakenfoods. ALso do I have to have been born on a Saturday to kill you?
Its all the Frakenfoods. ALso do I have to have been born on a Saturday to kill you?I hate bright lights, too. They make me sparkle.I can deal with that okay. ....Alright so I wear hats a lot since sunglasses don't work well for me since I wear glasses. But driving at night is a b%@!&. All those bright lights glaring right into my face from the other cars. :/My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
You can't kill me. My soul is already dead.
You can't kill me. My soul is already dead.Its all the Frakenfoods. ALso do I have to have been born on a Saturday to kill you?I hate bright lights, too. They make me sparkle.I can deal with that okay. ....Alright so I wear hats a lot since sunglasses don't work well for me since I wear glasses. But driving at night is a b%@!&. All those bright lights glaring right into my face from the other cars. :/My eyes also water a lot from cold air and bright lights. In direct sunlight and especially on a sunny day with snow cover I'm half useless without sunglasses.
Your a politician?
Will be watching this shortly. Once I finished downloading it... Remember, I'm in China, guys, there's no DVD rental down on the corner.