| Michael Johnson 66 |
Worked great Michael. I have a few pro projects to finish up and I'll be slapping some layout to this :) If anyone has any art that you want added in, let me know :)
I'm working on some art, and will post when I'm done. So far, I have color illustrations showing 3 examples of each of the 4 genotypes, and color illustrations of iconics for each of the 4 classes (8 color illus. total).
@ Urizen: You have great taste in art, my friend! :) I'm a big fan of those old woodcut artists, and Giger too.
| Michael Johnson 66 |
...and the missus is a big fan of O'Keefe. Guess who won here at home? ;)
You mean the missus didn't want Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights hanging over the fireplace? LOL! Come to think of it, Bosch would be really appropriate for this project, especially his scenes of hell, with all those butts and bird heads running around on humanoid legs! :P
| Urizen |
Yep. I have a couple art and prose books sitting around here in the house. I was so close (a couple hours too late) from scoring a huge find with a coffee book size of his artwork at a Half Price Books a month ago. I blasphemed the clerk for even suggesting that I was that close. It would have been better if I had not known and thus carry this lamenting disappointment as a burden on my soul. :P
| Urizen |
I think Metalholocaust (which amuses me as I'm a metalhead) when I see the first word and Metacataclysm...I dunno. Just not grabbing me. I do think the word Cataclysm should be used somewhere, though. Perhaps the end part could be A.C., which is After (the) Cataclysm when assigning a date period like using A.D. or C.E. (puts on thinking cap)
| Michael Johnson 66 |
I think Metalholocaust (which amuses me as I'm a metalhead) when I see the first word and Metacataclysm...I dunno. Just not grabbing me. I do think the word Cataclysm should be used somewhere, though. Perhaps the end part could be A.C., which is After (the) Cataclysm when assigning a date period like using A.D. or C.E. (puts on thinking cap)
Yeah, I like A.C. (after the cataclysm) for dating purposes. Coming up with a cool title is going to be the hardest thing, I think ...
| Urizen |
Twin Agate Dragons wrote:;)Cripe I remember submitting a handful of campaign names. I think the postmonster got hungry.
Omega Alpha
Omega Terra
Terra Omega A.C.(After the Cataclysm)
I'd like to use the word Omega, but I want to avoid anything sounding exactly like Gamma World. Especially now knowing that WotC is going to be releasing their 4e version soon.
| Twin Agate Dragons |
English to Latin translations for the word 'land';
tellus, ager, solum, humus
Solum Omega A.C.
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English to Latin translations for the word 'life';
vita, spiritus, anima, aevum
Aevum Omega, A.C.
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I'm really fond of the latter.
| Twin Agate Dragons |
Twin Agate Dragons wrote:Obscure. :DUrizen wrote:Again, too obscure. Got to come out with a regular English word that'll make no mistake exactly what this is.Then how about 'terrene'?
Omega Terrene, A.C.
It has a nice ring to it.
Oh come on!
If you don't like what I'm pitching, than at least pitch an idea back rather than just holding the ball.
| Enevhar Aldarion |
Michael Johnson 66 wrote:Yeah, I like A.C. (after the cataclysm) for dating purposes. Coming up with a cool title is going to be the hardest thing, I think ...It'll come to you when you're reading an advice column in one of your wife's magazines while on the toilet. Or maybe that's me. :P
Huh? You are going to come to him while he is reading an advice column while on the toilet? ;)
As for a name, how about:
Terra Nova
Terra Omega
| Michael Johnson 66 |
I like Terra Omega, and doing a search of it, didn't find it as being already used. I don't have the issue of Polyhedron with the Omega World d20 minigame by Jonathan Tweet, though, so it might be in there already.
I also like Terra Ultimus (Final Earth). What do y'all think?
P.S.: A.C. (After the Cataclysm) is a definite keeper as a subtitle. :)
| Urizen |
I guess I'm just trying to find the appropriate replacement for the word 'Gamma' because it resonates to us that there was a radiation that took place and the situation is FUBAR. :P What I'm having trouble with some of these titles is that they don't necessarily convey that stereotype that would be easily picked up from the public consciousness just by reading the name/title alone. Does this make any sense?
| Michael Johnson 66 |
I guess I'm just trying to find the appropriate replacement for the word 'Gamma' because it resonates to us that there was a radiation that took place and the situation is FUBAR. :P What I'm having trouble with some of these titles is that they don't necessarily convey that stereotype that would be easily picked up from the public consciousness just by reading the name/title alone. Does this make any sense?
It does make sense, Urizen, and I appreciate your commitment to finding the perfect title. :)
We might not be able to find something that really screams "I AM THE PERFECT TITLE", but I think the suggestions that have been posted here are pretty damn good, and I might just choose one of them for the 3rd print, with of course the option to change it for a 4th print if the elusive-but-obvious answer is presented after the fact.
BTW, the art is coming along, I have 8 color illustrations done, and will create an illustration for the psionics chapter (an esper suggesting two arks into fighting each other instead of the esper's party); the mutations chapter (a winged, clawed mutant kicking the a$$es of a group of knights of genetic purity); the equipment chapter (illustrations of select weapons, armor, and equipment items); cybernetics chapter (a cyborg doing something, probably bashing somebody's face in :)); the robotics chapter (a killer robot deathmatch); and the vehicles chapter (a road skirmish like something out of The Road Warrior).
| Twin Agate Dragons |
I also like Terra Ultimus (Final Earth). What do y'all think?
P.S.: A.C. (After the Cataclysm) is a definite keeper as a subtitle. :)
Personally, it's a mouthful.
I guess I'm just trying to find the appropriate replacement for the word 'Gamma' because it resonates to us that there was a radiation that took place and the situation is FUBAR. :P What I'm having trouble with some of these titles is that they don't necessarily convey that stereotype that would be easily picked up from the public consciousness just by reading the name/title alone. Does this make any sense?
Perfectly. And now having run a word search I've come up with two words that I think might fit; aurora and efflux.
| Michael Johnson 66 |
BTW Michael, I have absolutely no clue how to set up a webpage. So for now I think a Yahoo Group might be the best bet. When we [finally] settle on a name I'll create it.
Sounds like a plan, TAD! :) I'm going to sleep on the names for now. ("To sleep, per chance to dream -- of the perfect title!")
| Michael Johnson 66 |
Any thoughts about "Alpha Decay"
Hmm, that's not bad, F33b! Urizen, TAD, Aux? What do you guys think of ALPHA DECAY?
| Michael Johnson 66 |
Mike -
Refresh my memory. Using your Eukay (sic?) campaign setting, what actually caused the cataclysm? I'm trying to think of some conventional naming ideas based on that.
I'm going with the Gamma World timeline from the old '84 Dragon magazine, where a combination of things caused the fall of civilization, starting with limited nuclear exchange, which was a catalyst for volcanic/seismic catastrophes, and finally, the "Social Wars", which aren't really detailed in the timeline, but I assume they were global hi-tech wars involving nuclear attacks and the use of energy age weapons.
| Michael Johnson 66 |
You make it sound that it was a bit more gradual rather than a climatic singularity that changed the world as the people once knew it. As a thought, if A.C. (after the cataclysm) were to be use as a new dating system, what would have been the pivotal event to which the new calendar system began?
I'd say the most recent and final blow would be the Social Wars, which reduced the technological levels of all Earth civilizations, and gave rise to all known Cryptic Alliances. This occured less than 200 years prior to the present (I'll check the timeline to be sure).
EDIT: Yeah, about 125 yrs. ago.
| Urizen |
I'd say the most recent and final blow would be the Social Wars, which reduced the technological levels of all Earth civilizations, and gave rise to all known Cryptic Alliances. This occured less than 200 years prior to the present (I'll check the timeline to be sure).
EDIT: Yeah, about 125 yrs. ago.
Any particular pivotal day? Like a 9/11? D-Day. Pearl Harbor. Etc.? That's where I'm getting that. Sorry if I'm not communicating my thoughts clearly.
| Michael Johnson 66 |
Michael Johnson 66 wrote:Any particular pivotal day? Like a 9/11? D-Day. Pearl Harbor. Etc.? That's where I'm getting that. Sorry if I'm not communicating my thoughts clearly.I'd say the most recent and final blow would be the Social Wars, which reduced the technological levels of all Earth civilizations, and gave rise to all known Cryptic Alliances. This occured less than 200 years prior to the present (I'll check the timeline to be sure).
EDIT: Yeah, about 125 yrs. ago.
None mentioned, but if you feel inclined to flesh out the details, be my guest. As I'm thinking about it, alot more than a mere 125 yrs. would have to pass for things to get as wierd as they are, I'd say at least 300-400 yrs., so I might redo the timeline altogether, or advance it quite a bit. I'll take another look at it, maybe the big collapse actually occured earlier. At any rate, if you have any cool ideas about a specific date, or would like to try coming up with an alternate timeline, go ahead, because the one I added to the pdf is probably IP of WotC anyway ...
| Urizen |
None mentioned, but if you feel inclined to flesh out the details, be my guest. As I'm thinking about it, alot more than a mere 125 yrs. would have to pass for things to get as wierd as they are, I'd say at least 300-400 yrs., so I might redo the timeline altogether, or advance it quite a bit. I'll take another look at it, maybe the big collapse actually occured earlier. At any rate, if you have any cool ideas about a specific date, or would like to try coming up with an alternate timeline, go ahead, because the one I added to the pdf is probably IP of WotC anyway ...
Okee dokee. And you're probably right about WotC; you may have to proactively do something about that. Can't have their MiB standing at your front door to take you away in chains. ;)
| Michael Johnson 66 |
Michael Johnson 66 wrote:None mentioned, but if you feel inclined to flesh out the details, be my guest. As I'm thinking about it, alot more than a mere 125 yrs. would have to pass for things to get as wierd as they are, I'd say at least 300-400 yrs., so I might redo the timeline altogether, or advance it quite a bit. I'll take another look at it, maybe the big collapse actually occured earlier. At any rate, if you have any cool ideas about a specific date, or would like to try coming up with an alternate timeline, go ahead, because the one I added to the pdf is probably IP of WotC anyway ...Okee dokee. And you're probably right about WotC; you may have to proactively do something about that. Can't have their MiB standing at your front door to take you away in chains. ;)
Yeah, I don't think I can have a laptop in jail ... :)
Snorter
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As I'm thinking about it, alot more than a mere 125 yrs. would have to pass for things to get as wierd as they are, I'd say at least 300-400 yrs., so I might redo the timeline altogether, or advance it quite a bit. I'll take another look at it, maybe the big collapse actually occured earlier.
Seconded; given that so many mutant manimals now breed true, I'd say there'd have to be a long period while they went through some evolutionary dead ends.
What if the Year Zero were to run from the date that some Pure-Strain survivors banded togather, and declared (an attempt at) a new central government?
Normal timeline (A.D.)
Chaos (Another timeline, or maybe un-knowable/uncounted?)
New timeline (A.C.)
?
| Michael Johnson 66 |
Michael Johnson 66 wrote:As I'm thinking about it, alot more than a mere 125 yrs. would have to pass for things to get as wierd as they are, I'd say at least 300-400 yrs., so I might redo the timeline altogether, or advance it quite a bit. I'll take another look at it, maybe the big collapse actually occured earlier.Seconded; given that so many mutant manimals now breed true, I'd say there'd have to be a long period while they went through some evolutionary dead ends.
What if the Year Zero were to run from the date that some Pure-Strain survivors banded togather, and declared (an attempt at) a new central government?
Normal timeline (A.D.)
Chaos (Another timeline, or maybe un-knowable/uncounted?)
New timeline (A.C.)?
Yes, definitely something to that effect. I'll try to construct an original timeline by the end of February for the 3rd print (which will also contain artwork and reformatted equipment descriptions detailing slot, construction requirements, etc.). If you have any ideas to help with the timeline, Snorter, post 'em here or on the 2nd print thread. Thanks! :)
| Michael Johnson 66 |
I'm not sure of what you'd need to do royalty/copyright wise but how about ... Thundarr's World ?
That, in my belief, was the inspiration for Gamma World anyhoo
"Devil Dogs!", and "Lords of Light!" LOL! Thundarr certainly captures the often-silly feel of one end of the Gamma World spectrum (and I'll admit that I will watch an episode on Boomerang occasionally, especially since I began this project -- might get some inspiration for an adventure :P). Someone did do a Thundarr RPG online, if I recall ...
I believe the inspiration might possibly be reversed, though, as Thundarr debuted in the early '80s, whereas the first ed. of Gamma World came out in the late '70s.