
Kirth Gersen |

Still does not make it sound any less ignorant to folks that know what the word means. You wanna play a "gish" In any game I run you can only be one race and die at level 16
Do you have the same attitude towards other slang that you personally happen to find unappealing?
PLAYER 1: "I love this game! It's da bomb!"
DMSEEKER: "You sound ignorant. A bomb falls on your character and you die."
PLAYER 2: "That ain't right, man!"
DMSEEKER: "Your character's right arm falls off. You can't use your greatsword anymore."

seekerofshadowlight |

Just that one, not sure why but it runs though me, I hate it and wont use it, You want to play a fighter/mage say so, mystic warrior, jedi, arcane warrior, fighter/mage all get the point across. "gish" does not until after you explain what your talking about
Besides after having an issue with the non gamer slang "gish" at a table once, we do not use it.

seekerofshadowlight |

seekerofshadowlight wrote:Still does not make it sound any less ignorant to folks that know what the word means.I think that just makes you a grouchy ol' grumbler ;) :P "Dang whippersnappers and their newfangled words usings!"
So be it, still anyone using it to mean a fighter/mage or arcane warrior I'll just roll my eyes and not pay em much mind really. Just like I would someone calling a monk a "cocktail"

Brian E. Harris |

Orthos wrote:So be it, still anyone using it to mean a fighter/mage or arcane warrior I'll just roll my eyes and not pay em much mind really. Just like I would someone calling a monk a "cocktail"seekerofshadowlight wrote:Still does not make it sound any less ignorant to folks that know what the word means.I think that just makes you a grouchy ol' grumbler ;) :P "Dang whippersnappers and their newfangled words usings!"
But you'll let someone call their non-Force-using fighter/magic-user a Jedi?

seekerofshadowlight |

But you'll let someone call their non-Force-using fighter/magic-user a Jedi?
Not really, but "I want to play a jedi like character" needs no explanation at most tables. "I want to play a gish" however gets alot of huh, or misunderstanding in a few cases before you sit down and explain it
I want to play a jedi, I want to play an arcane warrior, I want to play a mystic warrior. Are all clear and get the point across. "I want to play a gish" does not, unless you spend your time on message boards, and even then it's not a sure thing you know what they are talking about
You get folks like me who got confused as we knew what a gish was. Then you get folks who have zero clue what the hell your talking about, or you sometimes get folks who know what gish means away from d20. The las one is awkward to say the lest

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I've never been fond of the word "gish" in reference to fighter/mages before, myself, though I never really encountered it until someone directed me to a few posts on character optimization boards.
Really, I've never seen the combo as particularly "uber", even if the elven fighter/mage is my favorite archetype to play (mostly due to loving the bladesinger character concept. I've never been the min-maxing munchkin sort. Hate that kind of gaming, really.)