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Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

so, the boots... are they large as in large because they're so tall? Or large as in an ogre could wear them? (I missed the large and am worried)


mundane boots, large thigh high black leather
Sorry, I misspoke; but yes, they're called large because they come up higher than a regular boot. They are sized for a medium humanoid.
I should say:
mundane boots, medium thigh high black leather

A little bit more and they'd be very expensive hip waders.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard
DM-Camris wrote:

mundane boots, large thigh high black leather

Sorry, I misspoke; but yes, they're called large because they come up higher than a regular boot. They are sized for a medium humanoid.
I should say:
mundane boots, medium thigh high black leather

A little bit more and they'd be very expensive hip waders.

Very expensive, stylish hip waders?


In your judgement, yes they are.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

So...questions on pricing and economy. Why the inflated prices? Are we expected to negotiate? Are we to negotiate prices down and resale values up? Or is this because we got too much treasure?

Will enchanting items cost more than normal? Are there other "common" items we can commission, such as cloaks of resistance or bracers of armor? Or are we to make some sort of check to hunt for craftsmen / sellers in the city to attempt to attain other items?

How do you feel about crafting feats? How appropriate are they for this campaign?


As for Tigotts', the inflated prices are because his buyers are mostly nobility or rich merchants (this is in the noble district). Certainly the prices here can be negotiated down if you're a public hero and/or a pretty girl.

You can always negotiate the price up or down if you want to take the time, I believe that the rule of thumb is you can always sell things immediately for half the book value.

Originally I was going to make you hunt for master craftsmen to make your magic items, but I think it is way to nitpicky for a play by post game. Commissioning magic items and priceing is per the book. I belive in this city there is a upper limit of 5,000 gp on individual items available. (gotta look that up).

I think you have more treasure right now because there are is a long dry spell where you don't have a magic shoppe available. If you want magic items more available (and more of the ones you want) crafting feats might be the way to go.

Grand Lodge

Since I will be using wildshape more and more as we level, I can take Craft Wonderous Item, but not until 7th level.


Dax Thura wrote:
Since I will be using wildshape more and more as we level, I can take Craft Wonderous Item, but not until 7th level.

Bindlplotz will possibly take Master Craftsman later...I think that's the feat.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard
Bindlplotz Cogwhistle wrote:
Dax Thura wrote:
Since I will be using wildshape more and more as we level, I can take Craft Wonderous Item, but not until 7th level.
Bindlplotz will possibly take Master Craftsman later...I think that's the feat.

After you take Master Craftsman, you still have to take the other feats too.

Annie can exchange her spell focus (enchantment) for craft wondrous item right now. Let me check the crafting rules a moment first and make sure that makes sense - annie doesn't ahve the skill points to keep on being the party face and take crafting skill ranks...

Edit: I have to keep spellcraft high, but it's only one skill. Upping it means I have to stop putting skill points into role-playing skills like I'd hoped to be able to do, but I can keep up the three social interaction skills I've been leveling (intimidation isn't Annie's thing) and knowledge(local) as I have been, at least. I'd hoped to make her the consummate diplomat with lots of languages too, but maybe I can come up with a magic item that casts tongues or something so I can communicate before 7th level.

I wish there was a low attack bonus, high skill version of the cleric in pathfinder. :)

I'm a little sad to lose effectiveness in helping take out bad guys in combat, but I think the ability to have the items we need will be more helpful overall than controlling some mooks in a couple of fights.

Edit #2
Hah! I forgot my human skill point this level (though adding things up, I didn't the other two), so I can still take Linguistics! Yay! I can still be a diplomat! I originally took Celestial, but I forgot about the earth elemental. I'm going to choose Terran instead.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

Gull Street Annie's Crafting Ability:

Annie can make wondrous items only at this time. The craft DC (Spellcraft) of these items = 5 + CL of object. As a third level caster, Annie meets the requirements of making items 3rd CL wondrous items with spells on the Cleric list. If one of the other party casters assists her by casting spells they know but she doesn't, she can meet all the requirements for those items as well.

Annie has a +8 bonus to spellcraft checks. On items where Annie meets all the requirements, she can craft the item with no chance of failure (failure indicates all crafting components (1/2 base price) are lost).

If Annie is missing any requirement for an item, the craft DC rises by 5. If Annie is asked to craft something where nobody has the required spell, then the craft DC for a 3rd CL item would be 13. Annie would have to roll a 5 or higher to succeed = 80% chance of success, 20% chance of failure. Every prerequisite Annie is missing raises the chances of failure by 25%.

Annie will make items at cost for party members. If she fails at a check, however, the entire cost is bourne by the requester. Base cost is 1/2 market price + expensive material component. For items without an expensive material component, a second attempt will make the item cost no more than fair market value.

Stat Boosting Items:
Annie has access to Bull's Strength, Bear's Endurance, Eagle's Splendor and Owl's Wisdom. The caster level for these items is 8, which means the crafting DC is 13 - 20% failure chance.

If you want intelligence or dexterity enhanced, however, unless someone else in the party supplies the spell, it will be a DC 18 Spellcraft Check - 45% of failure (gulp!).

Grand Lodge

Time to start saving for that Amulet of Mighty Fists for Bryson.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

I can't find a rule either way - anyone know if I can have party members aid me on spellcraft checks for crafting? I'd assume it's consume our entire day as it consumes my entire day alone, but if anyone is able to help, it would allow me to make simple items without necessarily having the spell on my class list.

Grand Lodge

The crafting magic section of the srd does not say you can't. I got the impression, though, that except for allowing someone else help to meet the prerequisites, the crafter is on there own.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

Yeah, that's what I mean. I've seen posts on the board saying you can...but nothing official in the core rulebook or on the forums that says you can or can't. Which at this point means it's up to the DM.


I can see item creators cooperating to meet prerequisites in crafting magic items (if they spend the same amount of time), but that final creation roll is the main crafters alone. No help from anyone else there.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

Alright, looking, I forgot to take into account taking 10.

I can craft anything up to CL 13 without fail if I have all prereqs. I can craft anything up to CL 8 without fail if I am missing only one prereq.

This means...I can craft all stat boosting items without fail!

Belt of Dexterity OR Headband of Intellect +2: CL 8 + 5 + 5 (missing prerequisite spell) = DC 18

Belt of Con or Str OR Headband of Cha or Wis +2: CL 8 + 5 = DC 13

I can also craft: Cloaks of Resistance, Boots of Springing and Striding, Elixirs of Swimming and Folding Boat.

If you're interested in the folding boat as a party item, it will cost 3625 gold to craft it - 604 gold each.

Bags of holding and handy haversacks are too difficult for me to craft without fail. I do have a 95% of crafting one successfully, but if I roll a 1 on the crafting check, the money invested is lost.

Annie is going to spend a couple of days making herself a headband of Wisdom +2 and another making herself an elixir of swimming for emergencies. I wouldn't want to spend more than about 7 days crafting - we do have to finish the work Miss Lavinia has tasked us with - so let me know if you need Annie to craft anything!


Camris,

I'm sorry to jump in on your discussion group. But I'd love to get in on the game if you have room. Any space available?


Male Half-orc Monk (Iron Mountain) 8 |HP: 60/61 | AC:26 Current 29, T 19, FF 21 | Fort: +9 Ref:+10 Will:+12 (+14 Enchantment) |CMB +12 (+16 grapple), CMD 25 (27) | Init+3 | Perc +13 | Ki Pool 9/9

Headband of wisdom sounding like a good idea for Ghirrak


Exo1a; At the moment we are full up. But if we lose more people we might be hiring, so watch this space!


DM-Camris wrote:
Exo1a; At the moment we are full up. But if we lose more people we might be hiring, so watch this space!

Thanks Camris. I've been looking to play this adventure path since it came out, so I'll be watching along here and in the main PbP thread for sure!


Ghirrak, did you make the presentation, or were you going to hang on to them for a while?


Male Half-orc Monk (Iron Mountain) 8 |HP: 60/61 | AC:26 Current 29, T 19, FF 21 | Fort: +9 Ref:+10 Will:+12 (+14 Enchantment) |CMB +12 (+16 grapple), CMD 25 (27) | Init+3 | Perc +13 | Ki Pool 9/9

I'll do it now if there's an opportunity to do so.


Exo1a wrote:
DM-Camris wrote:
Exo1a; At the moment we are full up. But if we lose more people we might be hiring, so watch this space!

Thanks Camris. I've been looking to play this adventure path since it came out, so I'll be watching along here and in the main PbP thread for sure!

p.s. I'd be happy to run one of the NPCs you have, if that would help you out.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

savage disease...savage tide...

Did I just change out domain power to something that will be useless for the entire campaign?

:(


You mean your Touch of Adoration? Not at all. There will be concentrated areas where you have to face a bunch at a time, but over the course of the campaign, oddly few of them.
But it is intended that you should fear them...

Grand Lodge

Real Life has jumped up and smacked me in the face recently. As a consequence my posting will be rather erratic for a bit as I only have access at work.

Grand Lodge

For those that may have an interest in this sort of thing, there's a new play test going on. It's for the Ultimate Combat supplement. It includes the Pathfinder rules for firearms. It's a free download.


Well, if Bindlplotz wants to switch to that system instead of my cobbled together rules, I'm willing to make a deal...;)


I just looked at the stats; 42 people looked at the last map in the last four days.
And two people looked at the Parrot Island map!
The Savage Tide rules!


DM-Camris wrote:

I just looked at the stats; 42 people looked at the last map in the last four days.

And two people looked at the Parrot Island map!
The Savage Tide rules!

Obviously lots of us lurkers following along with the team (and hoping to join in at some point)...

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

Go us! :)


Male Dwarf Shielded Fighter 5

DM, would you allow my character to go back to being a standard fighter, rather than a variant fighter?


Sorry guys, had a run of "go work, come home, eat, fall asleep" days.

Dgrim; you can go back to regular fighter. What was wrong with your variant?


Male Dwarf Shielded Fighter 5

I don't know...not sure what I was thinking when I made that request, and I'd like to pretend that it never happened.

Grand Lodge

Bryson 4th level hit points 1d8 ⇒ 7


Male Dwarf Shielded Fighter 5

1d10 ⇒ 9

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard

Annie's Hit poits: 1d8 ⇒ 4

edit:Annie is leveled.


Annie, you can reroll that.


Male Human Bard/Rogue (Seasinger/Pirate) L4 | AC 19(T14FF15) | HP 29/29 | Saves: F2R8W3 | Init: +5 | Perc: +4 | Bard Perf: 7/7 | Status:

1d8 ⇒ 8


Male Half-orc Monk (Iron Mountain) 8 |HP: 60/61 | AC:26 Current 29, T 19, FF 21 | Fort: +9 Ref:+10 Will:+12 (+14 Enchantment) |CMB +12 (+16 grapple), CMD 25 (27) | Init+3 | Perc +13 | Ki Pool 9/9

1d8 ⇒ 4

if reroll allowed
1d8 ⇒ 6

Leveled


OK boys and girls, fair warning. In the process of residing my apartment complex, they managed to cut my cable/internet connection. No idea as to when it'll be fixed, so posting will be erratic.

Sovereign Court

Female Human Level 4 Bard
DM-Camris wrote:
Annie, you can reroll that.

Oh, cool, you meant less than the average. Sweet!

1d8 ⇒ 1

EDIT: Err...okay, again: 1d8 ⇒ 7

Whew!


Has everybody levelled?

Annie, I don't see your updated sheet.

Yes, I'm still working on Jons...


Male Dwarf Shielded Fighter 5

Dgrim is done.
...

Spoiler:
  • CON score increase from 19 to 20
  • Improved Reposition feat
  • 1 rank added to Climb, Swim, Knowledge/Engineering, and Intimidate skills
  • new HP 55 = 37 + 9 (rolled) + 5 (CON) + 1 (Toughness feat) + 3 (1 HP for each character level 1-3 due to CON increase)
  • BAB/attacks and saves updated

Grand Lodge

DM Camris, how do you feel about Bryson wildshaping into dinosaur forms? Once we reach the Isle of Dread, I'm sure to see some and will therefore be able to use those shapes, but what about now?


I would rule that until Bryson encounters dinosaurs, he can't take their form. Except for Crocs/Gators.

Of course, once you DO, anything goes!

I can totally see Dgrim taking Cavalier levels and riding a Triceratops.


Guys, to save time in composing the posts, I have taken to rolling the dice on the desk in front of me instead of using the dice roller in the posts like I used to.
If this bothers you guys, speak up and I can find another way.


Male Dwarf Shielded Fighter 5

HP: 1d10 ⇒ 3
1d10 ⇒ 10

Grand Lodge

Hit points
1d8 ⇒ 3
1d8 ⇒ 6

How much down time will we have?
How much is Lavinia paying us?

I'd like to point out that this would be an opportune time to consider recruiting a skill monkey and, dare I say it, a PC arcane-whip.

Also, with the advent of Ultimate Combat, will Bindle be allowed to make some changes? Does he want to change?


Down time is about two months.
I think Bindlplotz was intending to remake into some sort of Gunslinger, this is the moment to do so.
Recruiting? What do the rest of you say? Want to get a hireling, or a full PC?

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