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Just another Super hero flick without the powers. Except this has a purple haired girl who Kills. I hate to say it but this is the sort of cross-breeding between KITE and LAZYTOWN you didnt want to see. Nick Cage will probably be nailed to the wall for this one or patted on the back for pushing boundaries.
If this is your sort of movie, you are probably someone who would enjoy the Power Ranger Fanfiction that ends with the Death of the Pink Ranger after a nightmare of torture and Rape.
Will it be banned? Hard to say.
Now I know what is wrong with all those super heroes. They don't kill enough bad guys.
I think you're going a bit overboard here, Dingo. I own multiple copies of every issue of kickass, and I can tell you that although it's quite bloody(real life is pretty bloody), it's also a great story- one that almost every comic book geek can relate to.
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The director has some good chops (directed Neil Gaiman's Stardust, the movie Layer Cake, and was Guy Ritchie's producer for Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch). I'd love to see Nick Cage do something good again (since the 80's, the only movies I've liked with him were Adaption and his 10 seconds of goofiness in Grindhouse).
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I think you're going a bit overboard here, Dingo. I own multiple copies of every issue of kickass, and I can tell you that although it's quite bloody(real life is pretty bloody), it's also a great story- one that almost every comic book geek can relate to.
Like most 'anime' there is a fetish quality that wont walk with the censors - in light of the reclassification of kiddie porn to include 'anime' and 'manga' - Children involved in things like executions (victim or perpetrator) qualify as child endangerment. That purple haired girl with the killing instinct ticks all the naughty boxes and Nick Cage the Paedophile old daddy.
Just stamp Lolita on it and set it on fire.
I just saw another trailer for this. Looks a lot tamer now...
Good. All hail violence.
Good. All hail violence.
You think the movie will be bad? The comic pushes boaundaries they have already said they don't dare do in the movie. The movie will be a tamer different story somewhat than the original. So you know, there ya go.
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If the whole foulmouthed-brownie-assassin-choppy-bloody thing isn't your cup of tea, yellowdingo, you could try Special (2006) with Michael Rapaport or Defendor (2009) with Woody Harrelson. Both are movies about normal people trying to be superheroes and neither one is very violent. Both are also very good and showcase the often underrated talents of both actors.
By the by, you, uh, don't happen to have a link to that Power Rangers fanfic you mentioned, do you?
I heard good things about Defendor, but I haven't seen it yet.
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overall, movie was very good. action, music, dialogue was pretty spot on to the comic.
that being said, some of the changes they made (like BD on the "unmasked" newscast...really?) really seemed to cheapen the story.
I am once again reminded that American movie audiences must see the good guy win, no matter what. Oh well.
Millar & Romita Jr.'s comic is much darker, grittier, and just as violent, and any "stilted" language gets subsumed in the overall feel/art of the book. The movie tries really hard, but fails to deliver the total knockout punch the book does (like usual.)
I'd give it a solid B+ or A-, definitely worth the price of admission.
-t
Yea It starts pretty faithful to the comics, but seriously derails and goes opposite halfway through in terms of plot. I think the comic works as is forsome of us, but for the mass appeal the movie needs to be succesful I think they made the right choices as I was worried that most audiences wouldn't get it anyway. Seems I was right, and they made the movie more accessible to the non comics crowd in a way. That is always a good thing in my opinion...
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Yea It starts pretty faithful to the comics, but seriously derails and goes opposite halfway through in terms of plot. I think the comic works as is forsome of us, but for the mass appeal the movie needs to be succesful I think they made the right choices as I was worried that most audiences wouldn't get it anyway. Seems I was right, and they made the movie more accessible to the non comics crowd in a way. That is always a good thing in my opinion...
And that is why Alan Moore cries himself to sleep.
When movies need to dumbed down from comics, I shudder to think of the reading comprehension levels of the average American.-t
Not possible!
This comic is my Mark Millar, the "genius" behind Marvel's Civil War. Therefor it s#@*s by definition!
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I didn't really have a problem with the concept of Civil War. It's implimentation left a bit to be desired, however.
1. Marvel stated several times that they were going to try to have both sides represented well enought so that there wouldn't be an obvious "right" or "wrong" side. In this they failed magnificently...Tony Stark and the pro-SHRA characters were clearly painted as the bad guys fairly early into the storyline. And if you had any doubts, they let out supervillains to bring in the rogue anti-SHRA heroes. If that wasn't enough, they also imprisoned heroes in a different dimension for an indeterminate period. Actually presenting both sides equally would have made a more interesting storyline, in my opinion.
2. Spidey even supporting the SHRA for a micro-second. I dunno if Miller simple has no understanding of Spider-Man, or if he just doesn't give a damn, but he showed a clear disregard for the characterization that has been built up for Peter Parker over the past 45 years. Peter and Norman's relationship is perhaps the best example for how much a determined villain that knows your identity can screw with your life.
3. This ties back into the first point, but Miller needs to tone down the goddamn commentary. There's storytelling, and there's preaching. There's nothing wrong with mixing the two, but if you're going to err, err on the side of storytelling. Heavily.
I didn't really have a problem with the concept of Civil War. It's implimentation left a bit to be desired, however.
1. Marvel stated several times that they were going to try to have both sides represented well enought so that there wouldn't be an obvious "right" or "wrong" side. In this they failed magnificently...Tony Stark and the pro-SHRA characters were clearly painted as the bad guys fairly early into the storyline. And if you had any doubts, they let out supervillains to bring in the rogue anti-SHRA heroes. If that wasn't enough, they also imprisoned heroes in a different dimension for an indeterminate period. Actually presenting both sides equally would have made a more interesting storyline, in my opinion.
2. Spidey even supporting the SHRA for a micro-second. I dunno if Miller simple has no understanding of Spider-Man, or if he just doesn't give a damn, but he showed a clear disregard for the characterization that has been built up for Peter Parker over the past 45 years. Peter and Norman's relationship is perhaps the best example for how much a determined villain that knows your identity can screw with your life.
3. This ties back into the first point, but Miller needs to tone down the goddamn commentary. There's storytelling, and there's preaching. There's nothing wrong with mixing the two, but if you're going to err, err on the side of storytelling. Heavily.
I love Kick-Ass and the bulk of Millar's work, but I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything said here. Wholeheartedly.
for once, I am glad not to have read the Civil War series.
Thanks, guys
-t
The biggest slap in the face that came from Civil war, and was repeated in World War hulk is simply the part where someone at marvel said "Crap we need an ending that isn't going to alienate anyone.... Quick just kinda stop the whole fight and move on!" It was like months of wasted energy.
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Just saw the movie. I had no idea Millar was associated with it, and winced to see his name, since he's never been my favorite, and has gotten worse and worse as he's gotten more unfathomably popular (much like Frank Miller, come to think of it).
It was okay for what it was, a movie. I was entertained.
Hit Girl's unhealthy relationship with her dad was hardly social commentary (or even approval, given that it was explicitly referred to as damaging by her dad's best friend), but I didn't go to a movie called Kick-Ass expecting to see the nuanced and creepy relationship between Leon and Mathilda in The Professional.
I went to see ass-kicking, and much ass was kicked, so I got my eight dollars worth.
The only part I loathed was the voice-over. Fight Club used voice-over narration to great effect. Blade Runner had good narration (although it was arguably even better without it). And then there are movies like this one, Wanted and Jumper, where the narration made me want to punch the writer in the face.
Set, we disagree on Millar and...Miller. That's an unusual name pairing, but I love their visceral style.
I love Kick-Ass and the bulk of Millar's work, but I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything said here. Wholeheartedly.
Well, since Marvel's Civil War was my first experience with Mark Millar, my view of his other work may be colored by my fist extremely bad impression.
Just saw the movie, liked it, will give it a B rating.
Hit Girl's unhealthy relationship with her dad was hardly social commentary (or even approval, given that it was explicitly referred to as damaging by her dad's best friend), but I didn't go to a movie called Kick-Ass expecting to see the nuanced and creepy relationship between Leon and Mathilda in The Professional.
Leon / the Professional, I love that movie! Everytime I see a clip of Oldman's character asking for "everyone" I laugh.
Appropriately named film.
Hitgirl is my new favorite superhero, hands down.
I'll never hear the Banana Splits theme quite the same way again.
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Kick ass, take mystery men and remove the powers.
Good movie, but yeah same basic plot, and not as funny.
B+ maybe just B because jetpacks don't work that well or that long so knowing that this was supposed to be more realistic made that scene just a little hokey to me
Mystery Men
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Yeah... the jetpack was the only disappointment for me.
Truly loved the comic, truly loved the movie. I consider them different entities, and while the jetpack WAS kinda stupid, admit it- you would have taken it too.
Actually, I liked this movie a lot. I never read the comic book, but the movie had just the right balance of plot and dark humor for me. Is it a movie for the kiddies, um definitely not.
In service,
Rich
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Just watched this tonight. Pretty good overall, but my favorite parts were mainly those w/ Big Daddy & Hit Girl. The warehouse-in-the-dark was pure awesomeness, and the final takedown topped even that.
If there's a sequel, give us more Hit Girl!
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Just watched this tonight. Pretty good overall, but my favorite parts were mainly those w/ Big Daddy & Hit Girl. The warehouse-in-the-dark was pure awesomeness, and the final takedown topped even that.
If there's a sequel, give us more Hit Girl!
There is a sequel in the works. Millar is writing the comic book now (Kick Ass: Balls to the Wall), and Vaughn is expected to start work on it once he finishes with X-Men: First Class sometime in April. All of the principals are expected to have roles (Kick Ass, Hit Girl, and Red Mist).
There is a sequel in the works. Millar is writing the comic book now (Kick Ass: Balls to the Wall), and Vaughn is expected to start work on it once he finishes with X-Men: First Class sometime in April. All of the principals are expected to have roles (Kick Ass, Hit Girl, and Red Mist).Just watched this tonight. Pretty good overall, but my favorite parts were mainly those w/ Big Daddy & Hit Girl. The warehouse-in-the-dark was pure awesomeness, and the final takedown topped even that.
If there's a sequel, give us more Hit Girl!
Good to know. Thanks man.
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The biggest slap in the face that came from Civil war, and was repeated in World War hulk is simply the part where someone at marvel said "Crap we need an ending that isn't going to alienate anyone.... Quick just kinda stop the whole fight and move on!" It was like months of wasted energy.for once, I am glad not to have read the Civil War series.
Thanks, guys
-t
I really loved the Civil War thing.
Why? Because of Wolverine's role in the whole thing. He really didn't pick much of a side and actually went after the CAUSE! Makes sense too ... if Wolverine was involved, superheroes would have died >_>
(sorry to keep the off-thread thing going, just had to say)