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GAME OF THRONES renewed for TWO more seasons. Because that's how HBO rolls.
Look, GRRM hasn't even said, maybe the planet's not spherical at all, maybe it's got more of a Pratchett shape to it.Actually, he has. People asked this years ago and GRRM said it was a spherical planet, and possibly slightly larger than Earth.
I might be mistaken here, but I'm pretty sure that the seasons are ONLY wobbly in Westeros, so the concept of the "year" comes from elsewhere in the world.Nope, Essos suffers from them as well. The winters are just not as noticeable as Essos is located further south. But if you read the latest book, there's reports of canals freezing over and the grass of the plains starting to die.
Ah, I see - I just always assumed that this was the first time such a thing was happening (or maybe just the first in a long while - given that this time the White Walkers are coming)
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The Ommegang "Fire and Blood Red Ale" for this season is phenomenal.
Toldja that wedding would be fun! :P
I am shocked there only 3 comments since the last episode aired. This season should have several of the best episodes..its definitely the my favorite book in the fire and ice series.
Well, it's kind of a huge spoiler, if you haven't seen it (or read the books).
From the publisher, re: seasons
It’s been a popular topic on the A Song of Ice and Fire forums, this whole matter of what causes the weird seasons. Suggested theories have ranged as far as suggesting dark planets in the near vicinity, perhaps a binary star, and more. But it’s rather fruitless; the author is prosaic on the topic and has provided the direct answer: it’s magic, trying to figure out a scientific, realistic explanation is bound to fail.That seems clear enough!
Wait a minute. You're telling me that a given writer can actually use "It's Magic, I don't have to explain s***" as an excuse if people like their book enough?
I'm starting to see a trend here regarding weddings and attendance of same.
Wait a minute. You're telling me that a given writer can actually use "It's Magic, I don't have to explain s***" as an excuse if people like their book enough?
Yup!
Another great episode last night.
Yes. Yes it was.
was jealous a new character?
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Good episode. Jack Gleeson is great as Joffrey.
was jealous a new character?
The actress that played jealous was actually in an earlier episode in season 3 as one of the two "ladies" seducing Theon in the dungeon. I am going to assume it's meant to be the same character.
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Great stuff. NSFW images and major spoilers for the whole run of the show so far.
As amusing as this was, the fact that it was clearly made by fans of the show and not of the books bothers me :(
I mean, honestly, I feel like the biggest hipster in town. Imagine this drawl, in a snottish, snobby voice:
"Used to be a time that loving the story of a Game of Thrones required you to actually read the books... now, every moron who likes to watch clumsy TV porn is all over the TV show, making it popular. This other day, I was talking to a friend in the restaurant about the books, said I was concerned for Stannis. Some douche overheard us from a nearby table, and added his opinion to the conversation - 'Stannis is an idiot, but man did he score by doing the redhead!!". Those books, they used to be my thing. My friends' thing. If you actually had to work through thousands of pages to know what happened next, you actually had to care about the characters. And there's also the truth - the books are better. More sophisticated, smarter, far less pornographic, tell a much bigger story...
Well, to be fair, Stannis is an idiot...
For entirely different reasons in the books, though!
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Meh, love the show, but feel absolutely no desire to read the books. And what I've seen people saying about them basically reinforces that decision...that GRRM has been treading water for several novels now, that Dany STILL hasn't managed to find her way across the f*@#ing ocean to become relevant to the rest of the goddamn plot, etc.
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Yeah, from the sounds of it, the producers and writers of the show have ironed out confusing parts, fixed pacing and plot issues and stripped out much of the long and tedious bits to make a tighter show.
I also love the show. I love reading books too but I also don't have much of a desire to read these books. I'm very happy sticking with the show
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The TV show is better than the books in a few areas: Robb's relationship was better depicted on-screen than off (even if it was cheesy), the Red Wedding was that bit more brutal on-screen (even if we lost all the fan-favourite supporting characters who bought it as well), some of the pacing is better and there's more focus on existing characters than constantly bringing in new ones. Characters like Margaery, Osha and Shae are also a lot more interesting on-screen than in the books.
However, the books are better than the TV show in the overwhelming majority of cases. Most of the characters are better (Loras is much more interesting and complex than the gay, occasionally effeminite fop the TV show has reduced him to; Sansa has a bit more depth and Littlefinger is vastly subtler and less obviously villainous) and Stannis is vastly superior. It's a tribute to Dillane's acting that he can still get people's sympathy, but the book version of the character is so much richer and more interesting:
It's rather worrying that Benioff and Weiss have said they don't like him very much and see him as more of a villain than the ultra-grey, ruthless but occasionally heroic figure of the books. A shame as 'Blackwater' (not written by them, notably) seemed to get him so much better than any episode since.
Wait a minute. You're telling me that a given writer can actually use "It's Magic, I don't have to explain s***" as an excuse if people like their book enough?
Nope, the writer has said, "It's magic but there is a logical explanation for it and it will be given in one of the later books in the series." Which I think is fair enough. We can moan about it later if the explanation turns out to be rubbish :)
Great stuff. NSFW images and major spoilers for the whole run of the show so far.
As amusing as this was, the fact that it was clearly made by fans of the show and not of the books bothers me :(
I mean, honestly, I feel like the biggest hipster in town. Imagine this drawl, in a snottish, snobby voice:
"Used to be a time that loving the story of a Game of Thrones required you to actually read the books... now, every moron who likes to watch clumsy TV porn is all over the TV show, making it popular. This other day, I was talking to a friend in the restaurant about the books, said I was concerned for Stannis. Some douche overheard us from a nearby table, and added his opinion to the conversation - 'Stannis is an idiot, but man did he score by doing the redhead!!". Those books, they used to be my thing. My friends' thing. If you actually had to work through thousands of pages to know what happened next, you actually had to care about the characters. And there's also the truth - the books are better. More sophisticated, smarter, far less pornographic, tell a much bigger story...
I recall making a facebook post decrying that all my friends are only NOW reading the books, when I had been telling everyone how awesome they were for the last decade. Accusations of hipster-dom flew.
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I read books I-IV years ago. All things considered, I think I prefer the TV show.
Here's a spoiler for you:
If that scene had gone on another few seconds, I'm pretty sure he was going to swell up into a giant blueberry like Violet Beauregarde.
I enjoy watching the show, its very well paced, and so far they have captured all the pivotal scenes in the books very well. However, I really do cringe at the amount of the soft porn in the show. I mean, its conceiveable littlefinger did own brothels but do we really need half of his scenes involving backstory commentary while instructing whores how to please customers.
The books do plod at times, but GRRM writes so well I don't mind doing a travelogue of the riverlands.
What people who love the books get over the show, is the subtle setups GRRM leaves around and when you realize 4 books later he set things up in the first book..
I have read all 5 books about 5-6 time each, and I remember that moment when I realized who Jon Snows father was..this was about 10 years ago before it became a common internet theory, and I only realized it by reading several key passages in a short period of time. i.e. read the first 3 books in a single week.
I am not even sure if the show runners will ever reveal Jon's Snows father..it might come out of left field for many viwers, although Season 1 does get the essentials... Ned tells Jon as they leave winterfell next time he sees him he will tell Jon about his mother..i.e. when Jon is innthe Nights watch and his parentage shouldn't matter..and 2. several characters wonder what kind of woman could make Ned Stark violate his honour. The obvious answer is likely no one based on his behaviour on the show. The books actually do provide some false leads, so maybe that is why I started thinking about it more than I would have from just watching the show.
IIRC, the showrunners have mentioned in the past they prefer to minimize the long term mysteries on the show, until they become relevant. They have 10 hours to play with a season, and I can understand not wanting to drop a ton of hints about Jon Snow's parents in season 1, and then not have it addressed until season 6 again. A lot of audience members are likely to forget those clues so early on, and I think the show's streamlining has removed a good chunk of the other clues/red herrings so far.
All in all I probably prefer the show for a "re-read".
ASoIAF is good, but it's just a bit of a slog. It's not the length, it's the dense and slow nature of it that really kind of grinds you down trying to re-read them.
Most other books I enjoy don't get the same "Yes, I know that, let's get to the interesting bits" reaction from me.
Probably because more than one major event happens per book in the other series I enjoy.
I skipped the entirety of season 2 of the show even just because I'm not a big fan of "Joffrey is a prick and people are mutilated, oh also there's this one REALLY good scene: The book", and find 1 and 3 to be MUCH better.
4 and 5 would be great if it weren't for the obvious.
Really, thinking back on it, I have no clue why ASoIAF is so praised. It's really not very good. The overall whole is palatable but if you started reading them when they came out (which I did not) I don't see how you could still enjoy it considering how slow each individual book is combined with the schedule slip GRRM has indulged himself with.
It'd be like reading books 7-9 of Wheel of Time if it took Robert Jordan 6 years to write each one.
why aren't they showing The Mountain more
Daario must be one of the Faceless Men
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They recast the Mountain (again) for this season. He'll be along shortly I expect.
When I saw [REDACTED] lying in repose with the painted-eyes-pebbles covering his/her dead eyes, I couldn't help giggling. I want to print out a screenshot and put stick-on googly eyes on it.
wtf Darth Maul with a winter template
wonder if the eyes can be dispelled the same way, by a priest of Rhlor
They recast the Mountain (again) for this season. He'll be along shortly I expect.
According to IMDb, the Viper vs. the Mountain happens in episode 8.
Ok its been a while but did that whole scene with Bran happen in the book? I remember it very differently
Nope. it didn't.
Course, to be honest, I didn;t know for sure either till I looked it up online.
The pacing in the books is way different, and it's hard to keep some things straight. Bran and his party, if I recall, should be close to their "destination" by now.
Ok its been a while but did that whole scene with Bran happen in the book? I remember it very differently
They seem to be "actioning up" Bran's journey which would, otherwise, a long trek of not much happening. Which, from a storytelling perspective, I can understand.
I'm also not sure I followed the logic of "oh they are north of the wall, they will definitely be seeking out wildlings." Abandoned wildling villages would be exactly the kind of thing I would hope to find in that situation.
anyone tell excaty what page we are at in the books (roughly)
anyone tell excaty what page we are at in the books (roughly)
I think we're all over the place at this point (including way off the map).
Here is a spreadsheet that is a working document on trying to put the events of the book in chronological order. Joffrey's wedding is the start of year 300 AL.
Spoilers abound within obviously....
Problem with the timing is two of the books were written where one focused solely on certain characters, while the other went back and had info on others, all during the same timeframe.
where is coldhands
where is coldhands
Either you just saw him (When the Walker was riding north with the baby, there was a scene where the camera focused on his hands for a weird amount of time) or, perhaps more likely, he's been written out of the story.
Or something else!
You've probably seen as much of the show as the rest of us. :p
where is coldhandsEither you just saw him (When the Walker was riding north with the baby, there was a scene where the camera focused on his hands for a weird amount of time) or, perhaps more likely, he's been written out of the story.
Or something else!
You've probably seen as much of the show as the rest of us. :p
I'm pretty sure they're saving him for the last 3 or 4 episodes this season. They've officially cast
for Season Four appearances, so I imagine that Coldhands will show up too.
Regarding Coldhands:
Another solid and entertaining episode.
Ok I just have to leave this here because this last episode was awesome!
Shae, I am disappoint. :(
Enjoyed this week's episode much more than the last couple. It still had all the gratuitous female nudity, but at least it wasn't there because a bunch of women were being raped. :-/
Seriously, I know they were trying to set up the rebel Crows for their big comeuppance at the hands of Lord Snow, but those scenes were downright uncomfortable to watch.