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Check out the amazing new covers to both the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook and the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary!
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Mairkurion {tm} |

TD has to come along and do things I don't feel like doing, like linkifying.
For me, Ross, I think I had to let go of a dearly beloved 3.x style element...well, I'll have to go back and double compare to be sure.
EDIT: TD, are you nuts? I get twice as much face time this way! Bear the face of the greenman with chin held high!

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There was a border on the old cover and the book "type" designation was placed on a tan crest at the bottom that isn't there any more; that and as mentioned roleplaying game is now in red. I lopve that the artwork is more in your face than in the previous version. The beastiary now looks like they are charging right at you instead of someone in front of you. I'm assuming these are the final cut versions for the book artwork and hopefully means they are close to sending to printer if not already there.

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The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
I like the look of this troll better. I guess it trumps the "Classic Monsters Revisisted" one then?

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Xuttah wrote:The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...What kind of giant is that? It looks upset!
Very good, as usual. Looking forward to owning these books.
What?
No more skinny green pickle-nose trolls?
Poor Poul Anderson... some of us still love you!!!
EDIT: And BTW, that is one Abyss of an underbite!

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James Jacobs wrote:I like the look of this troll better. I guess it trumps the "Classic Monsters Revisisted" one then?
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...

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Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...
Is the ecology information about trolls in Classic Monsters null and void too? What about the other creatures?

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The day before we send the Core Rulebook to print is probably not the best time to ask the art staff to make free wallpapers, but I'll see what I can do for the near future. :)
Send the Core Rulebook to print (yay!) and then make free wallpapers to celebrate...
The depiction of the troll on the cover of the Bestiary shows why I love the approach adopted by Paizo for the Pathfinder RPG - the troll has definitely had a makeover, but it is still recognizably a troll in the classic D&D tradition. The balance between innovation and tradition seems to be about right.

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By the way, I think there's a typo on page 73. You might want to fix that before you send it off.
Whew...it's a good thing that Jason and Erik aren't sick of combing through the manuscript over and over again to look for tiny mistakes...
The Paizo twitter feed lets us know just how much fun they've been having.

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James Jacobs wrote:Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...Is the ecology information about trolls in Classic Monsters null and void too? What about the other creatures?
The ecology information is not necessarily void, no. And the other Classic Monsters in the book are mostly unchanged.

Craig Clark |

James Jacobs wrote:Xuttah wrote:The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...What kind of giant is that? It looks upset!
Very good, as usual. Looking forward to owning these books.What?
No more skinny green pickle-nose trolls?
Poor Poul Anderson... some of us still love you!!!
EDIT: And BTW, that is one Abyss of an underbite!
Love the cover of the Pathfinder RPG not so much the troll, something about the giant hamburglar fingers bugs me. Plus trolls always have big black evil souleating depthless eyes.

Daniel Moyer |

Meh, the troll is neat, but the goblins are what continues to impress me. I like the dark, little "Cat's Eye" gremlin look and I picture them as having personalities like the goblin henchmen in "Overlord". As hordes of them swarm out and loot, pillage, breaking random objects because they can and hunting family fidos for sport all the while.
"Treasure for YOU!"
"That's MINE!"

Mairkurion {tm} |

Very nice! Now all you have to do is convince Barnes and Noble and other bookstores to sell the book facing 'out' so people will get drawn in by the artwork.
And it is off to the printers? WOOT! Very anxiously waiting!
There may be hope. It seems to me like most B&N sell hard back RPG books face out, and only the paperbacks spine out.

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The ecology information is not necessarily void, no. And the other Classic Monsters in the book are mostly unchanged.
That makes me smile. I really enjoyed most of the creature makeovers presented in that book. It's what really hooked me on Pathfinder.
The bugbear was particularly compelling, and I always enjoy a good article on kobolds. :) (not a big fan on the new look for them though)

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That troll is about a thousand times cooler than the long-nose 'classic' D&D troll. (The 'classic' troll, to my eyes, looks more like a green hag.)
Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."

Navior |

That troll is about a thousand times cooler than the long-nose 'classic' D&D troll. (The 'classic' troll, to my eyes, looks more like a green hag.)
Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."
At least it can attack with half its jaw. The old troll had to bite its nose off first before it could bite anything else.

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Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."
The troll jaw and the jaw of the Festerog (sp?) from Hungry are the Dead look very similar. I wonder if there is some sort of lower mandible conspiracy in Pathfinder? ;)

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I wonder if there is some sort of lower mandible conspiracy in Pathfinder? ;)
There's no such thing as an upper mandible. The jawbone is just a mandible - the part I suspect you're thinking of as the "upper mandible" is called the maxilla.
Those terms have entirely different meanings with arthropods, but what're you gonna do?