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Woot !
Old -school roots !
Woot!
Tip of the hat to First edition Dungeon Masters Guide
Woot!
Father of the hobby E. Gary Gygax !
WOOT !
David’s plan to explore which books, movies, comics, and roleplaying products members of the Paizo staff have found most influential in both their style of design and the development of Golarion. And the first interviewee will be Erik Mona.
WOOT !
PAIZO !
WOOT ! WOOT ! WOOT !
I second that WOOT!
Does anyone have a copy of the original Appendix N. I recall that in the second printing of the DMG it was abbreviated. I don't have a copy of the original printing anymore -- but I recall a copy of the appendix used to live online...of course I can't find it.
Won't someone help out an old guy?
WOOT to David for his efforts!!
CJ
Le woot!
Well, somehow my search missed finding this thread, and I started one in Books. Luckily, this one showed up four minutes before I would have been unable to delete mine (though I still think it should be in Books!)
Really excited about David's project and discussing it here. The blog gives a little more of a peak into what he has it mind, and the interviews should be interesting: there's always that inexplicable mystery in terms of individual tastes and the surprising connections that creative folk make between the game and fantasy literature.
A couple of thoughts on the blog itself--hope David doesn't mind. Moorcock has a link to the Planet Stories books, but Robert E. Howard and Gygax aren't give links. I suggest providing links for them to raise awareness (and sales?).
EDIT: I'm not sure how reproducing that appendix or linking to it fits with respecting Paizo's policy. I will say that, three choice words in Google rarely fails to produce, and my recent experiments confirm this.
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EDIT: I'm not sure how reproducing that appendix or linking to it fits with respecting Paizo's policy. I will say that, three choice words in Google rarely fails to produce, and my recent experiments confirm this.
The complete list was also reprinted in Erik Mona's introduction to The Anubis Murders. Why google when you can buy a great Planet Stories book?
Also, David, while this sounds like an awesome project, these are not the spoilers you have been tasked with providing us. Please step up to the plate or risk a mob with pitchforks. Kthxbye.
Thanks for all the kind woots everyone! (Bah-dum-PSH!) I'm pretty sure that we'll have a wide range of influences as we build up "the Paizo Appendix N", as I know that while Erik is an aficionado of pulp fantasy stories (such as those found in the original Appendix N, all of which he has read I'm sure), James Jacobs knows everything there is to know about horror movies (and probably many other genres of film as well). I'm pretty durned excited!
And Mairkurion, those are definitely good suggestions and I will bring them up with Wes, who might be able to add the links to REH and Gygax. Raising awareness of Planet Stories books would be a very nice side-effect of creating a new Appendix N. Hooray for self-promotion!
While I'm at it, I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting (such as the rakshasa, the upcoming Book of the Damned, etc.). You like?
The complete list was also reprinted in Erik Mona's introduction to The Anubis Murders. Why google when you can buy a great Planet Stories book?
That would be my suggestion as well.
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While I'm at it, I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting (such as the rakshasa, the upcoming Book of the Damned, etc.). You like?
Great idea, I'd love to see more stuff like that. :)
While I'm at it, I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting (such as the rakshasa, the upcoming Book of the Damned, etc.). You like?Great idea, I'd love to see more stuff like that. :)
Yep, same here.
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I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting. You like?
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While I'm at it, I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting (such as the rakshasa, the upcoming Book of the Damned, etc.). You like?
This is awesome. And while it might make me love the Paizo staff more (is that possible?) how's this going to make me want to buy more stuff from Paizo. You know what will push the blog to achieve its maximum marketing potential? Artwork and spoilers! Ok, so maybe not "spoilers" but "teasers." And more naked iconics. Harsk next, please.
And more naked iconics. Harsk next, please.
*shudder*
And yet, I'd pay to see just how paizo would do it!
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While I'm at it, I might as well tell you guys about another blog series that I'm planning, tentatively titled "Roots & Beginnings", which explores how the Paizo staff came up with the ideas for particularly awesome adventures/parts of the setting (similar to the blog post about how Tanglebriar and Treerazer came from James Jacobs's homebrew setting), as well as the historical and mythological sources that the authors used when researching specific parts of the setting (such as the rakshasa, the upcoming Book of the Damned, etc.). You like?
Now this is even more exciting. I love to see "behind the curtain" type material.
This is awesome. And while it might make me love the Paizo staff more (is that possible?) how's this going to make me want to buy more stuff from Paizo. You know what will push the blog to achieve its maximum marketing potential? Artwork and spoilers! Ok, so maybe not "spoilers" but "teasers." And more naked iconics. Harsk next, please.
*Channeling my inner Kirk* Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarsk!
And I'm working on teasers, actually. I have another idea for a blog series that I want to run by Wes.
It's funny you should mention naked Harsk, as I was just looking at a picture of a 4/5ths-naked dwarf in the art department just yesterday.
Bear-fans, rejoice!
zWHAAAAA?! Haven't seen that one...
And Callous Jack, Hank and I would love to post more pictures of miniatures of miniatures painting. Sean Reynolds runs a "painting workshop" on Wednesdays where he lets anyone who wants use his pains and a bunch of "community miniatures" to practice painting on. So that will definitely get covered in the blog.
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Hank and I would love to post more pictures of miniatures of miniatures painting. Sean Reynolds runs a "painting workshop" on Wednesdays where he lets anyone who wants use his pains and a bunch of "community miniatures" to practice painting on. So that will definitely get covered in the blog.
Just not at the expense of teasers, please!
Robert E. Howard's Conan series, particularly the collections of the original Conan stories that have been published by Del Rey—The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian, The Conquering Sword of Conan—those ones...
Yeah, Robert E. Howard FTW!!!
Well done on the first part of your project, David. It's really well-conceived: give us works, influences, and connections we may have missed to enjoy; and inside looks at the setting and the creators that we're dying to know more about. Thanks! These are going to be great to follow.
And appendices in multiple works, ey, James? Oh, man. I'd love it if you guys get that specific.
I'm writing up the second and third parts of the interview tonight. Thundarr the Barbarian was, in fact, a source of inspiration for Golarion.
"He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!"
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I'm writing up the second and third parts of the interview tonight. Thundarr the Barbarian was, in fact, a source of inspiration for Golarion.
"He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!"
That's funny; the other day I was thinking how the Runelords somehow reminded me of the techno wizards who menaced Thundarr. There was even one who said he was one of the Seven Great wizards of some order. I can't recall his name but his 'normal head' rotated into his 'combat head' and his eyes shot out energy beams.
And yes that sounds just as cheesy as I remember it.
I'm writing up the second and third parts of the interview tonight. Thundarr the Barbarian was, in fact, a source of inspiration for Golarion.
"He is Thundarr, the Barbarian!"
That's funny; the other day I was thinking how the Runelords somehow reminded me of the techno wizards who menaced Thundarr. There was even one who said he was one of the Seven Great wizards of some order. I can't recall his name but his 'normal head' rotated into his 'combat head' and his eyes shot out energy beams.
And yes that sounds just as cheesy as I remember it.
Huh...Thundarr. Ya know, Baron
Does anyone have a copy of the original Appendix N. I recall that in the second printing of the DMG it was abbreviated. I don't have a copy of the original printing anymore -- but I recall a copy of the appendix used to live online...of course I can't find it.
Won't someone help out an old guy?
** spoiler omitted **
CJ
Yes I do have a copy with Appendix N. Gary signed it for me back at ICON X .. in I can't even remember what year. It's sitting on my shelf next to my Deities & Demigods which has the Cthulhu Mythos.
Gary rocked!I could scan it but I'm not sure how to post that scan here, so how about I just type the list. Here it goes!
Anderson Poul. THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS; THE HIGH CRUSADE; THE BROKEN SWORD
Bellairs, John. THE FACE IN THE FROST
Brackett, Leigh
Brown, Fredric.
Burroughs, Edgar Rice. "Pellucidar" Series; Mars Series; Venus Series
Carter, Lin. "World's End" Series
de Camp, L. Sprague. LEST DARKNESS FALL; FALLIBLE FIEND; et al.
de Camp & Pratt. "Harold Shea" Series; CARNELIAN CUBE
Dereth, August.
Dunsany, Lord.
Farmer, P.J. "The World of the Tiers" Series; et al.
Fox, Gardner. "Kothar" Series; "Kyrik" Series; et al.
Howard, R.E. "Conan" Series
Lanier, Sterling. HIERO'S JOURNEY
Leiber, Fritz. "Fathrd & Gray Mouser" Series: et al.
Lovecraft, H.P.
Merritt, A. CREEP, SHADOW, CREEP; MOON POL; DWELLERS IN THE MIRAGE; et al.
Moorcock, Michael. STORMBRINGER; STEALER OF SOULS; "Hawkmoon" Series (esp. the first three books)
Norton, Andre.
Offutt, Andrew J., editor SWORDS AGAINST DARKNESS III.
Pratt, Fletcher, BLUE STAR; et al.
Saberhagen, Fred, CHANGELING EARTH; et al.
St. Clair, Margaret. THE SHADOW PEOPLE; SIGN OF THE LABRYS
Tolkien, J.R.R. THE HOBBIT; "Ring Trilogy"
Vance, Jack. THE EYES OF THE OVERWORLD; THE DYING EARTH; et al.
Weinbaum, Stanley.
Wellman, Manly Wade.
Williamson, Jack.
Zelazny, Roger. JACK OF SHADOWS; Amber" Series; et al.
He ends the list with this comment:
"The most immediate influences upon D&D were probably _de Camp & Pratt, REH, Fritz Leiber, Jack Vance, HPL, and A.Merritt; but all of the above authors, as well as many not listed, certainly helped to shape the form of the game. For this reason, and for the hours of reading enjoyment, I heartily recommend the works of these fine authors to you."
Enjoy!
David, I've been enjoying the "Appendix" interviews. I especially enjoyed the last two's revelations about specific influences on Mona that have manifested themselves in Golarion. Keep up the good work.
I second that!
Especially intrigued by the miniatures game!
Top Stuff!
Thank you for the encouragement, I hope that you'll continue to like the series!
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Hank and I would love to post more pictures of miniatures of miniatures painting. Sean Reynolds runs a "painting workshop" on Wednesdays where he lets anyone who wants use his pains and a bunch of "community miniatures" to practice painting on. So that will definitely get covered in the blog.Just not at the expense of teasers, please!
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You sure you're not thinking of Tri-Clops, from Masters of the Universe?
LOL
I assure you he was not.
He was Gemini !
AND (!)
Smells like Teen Runelords
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I only saw this episode once in my life, 30 years ago - my long term memory rocks !
He was Gemini !
Heh . . . Gemini definitely shows the Jack Kirby influence, since his "other" face looks a lot like a cross between Darkseid and Orion.
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Wow!
That rocks!I never saw this first time round, this is just made of win!
I want Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Ratman Bolas)!
And Ookla sounds like Charlie the Cat, from the BBC Public Information films.
Hey, whatever happened to the "Appendix N Project"?
It seems likes it's been a while since we were treated to our intrepid intern-reporter poking around on the staff's shelves and in their brains...
AHEM
Huzzah, the Appendix Interview Project hath returned!
Yup, riveting stuff!
I'm looking forward to seeing the appendix N in the Rulebook.
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As far as fantasy authors go, I'd have to say that my biggest influences are China Miéville, Joel Rosenberg, and Richard Knaak.
Count me in as one of the bazillions of boys who in his early teens admired Huma for the paradigm of a paladin and emulating him over and over in my RPGing. That said, looking back on Dragonlance fiction as an adult, two things strike me. They are quite superficial, ultimately, and second, to emulate their iconics in an RPG is bound to fail. Huma is a solo player's dream of an RPG experience, but he's ultimately too self-occupied and focused on his own mission to be a team player.
That James Sutter is one good looking fellow.
Hey, thanks!