Well, you know why it's so windy in Oklahoma?
Because Kansas sucks and Texas blows.
<looks for abandoned bandit hideout for shelter from forthcoming Jayhawk and Longhorn attacks>
Hey...did I step in sumthin? Dagnabit, I went and got yuanti guts all over my boot heel...
Hey...did I step in sumthin? Dagnabit, I went and got yuanti guts all over my boot heel...
Well played.
I suppose I should have added that I currently reside in Rockwall, just east of Dallas. :)
It may not be the south, but as a displaced Arkansan it don't feel too different from home. I just have to explain that I ain't cheering for no Cowboys or Sooners, I'm a Hawg. WOO PIG! SOIEE! RAZORBACKS!
Glad you got in before this storm. I've been trapped in my house all day since I tried to get out to go to my dental appointment. Both the school I work at (OCU) and the one I teach at (OCCC) are both closed tomorrow, so its not all bad.
Don't tase me, bro!
I've been trapped in my house all day
And frankly, you can keep all the ice and snow north of the Red River. Folks around here can barely drive in the rain.
On a serious note, I hope everyone stays warm and safe with this storm rolling through. Global warming, my . . .
I live on the Garland side of the lake...
If I can ever get a certain relative of mine to actually come down and visit, we'll have to try to convene a game.
And frankly, you can keep all the ice and snow north of the Red River. Folks around here can barely drive in the rain.
On a serious note, I hope everyone stays warm and safe with this storm rolling through. Global warming, my . . .
Are you kidding, Oklahomas think you have to drive faster in the rain. And their faulty sense of minimum distance becomes worse when they get in front of you and spray water on your windshield.
And don't get me started on this whole Global Warming scare.
And thanks, I'm not going anywhere until this ice melts.
I feel gypped. We didn't get a real winter storm in Dallas.
C'mon, you've got a nice shaggy coat. Let's have a couple of days of real weather, so we can look back and say, that was winter.
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My brother did his tech school at Lackland. Still a small world. Was your girlfriend at Tinker?Mine was at Lackland AIr Force Base.I went to Oklahoma once. I did not enjoy it. Maybe it was because ....I would guess that was probably it.
Incidentally, I did my AIT at Fort Sam in San Antonio. Turns out, so did Jeffery Dahmer. Small world.
Yeah she was.
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@ Fryer - I hope that was a long time ago, David, though I guess it can't be long enough. Perhaps you should not worry about adding OK to your itinerary.
Almost 16 years ago now. It still hurts to think about some times though. OK is on my itinerary if I can save up enough money to go to D-Day this year.
Daigle, yes Dallas has become the favorite city for Okie refugees who are fleeing to urbaner pastures. Don't worry though, we've got more than enough yankee and foreign immigrants here to counterbalance them during their assimilation period. And it is true OKC has developed greatly in the past 15 or 20 years, probably by taking a close look at large TX cities. In spite of these two factors, Dallas is hardly South Oklahoma. If you got to know it better, you would not be able to say this, even tongue-in-mandible.
My hometown may not be my favorite TX town, but it has its own attitude, atmosphere, identity, and ethos--apart from the obvious physical differences. It is in many ways a convenient city to live in, and the metroplex is a world-class urban community. Oklahoma? It's OK.
Edit @ David - Wow, looks like fun. As far as your past loss goes, it's not popular to say so, but there are some things that no rational, healthy person completely gets over.
Yeah, after living in OKC for a year it seems like everyone is married and has at least two kids if they are above the age of 18. I know that's not quite true, but I look around at the dating pool for my age and more than likely I will have to deal with some other guy's kids.
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Daigle, yes Dallas has become the favorite city for Okie refugees who are fleeing to urbaner pastures. Don't worry though, we've got more than enough yankee and foreign immigrants here to counterbalance them during their assimilation period. And it is true OKC has developed greatly in the past 15 or 20 years, probably by taking a close look at large TX cities. In spite of these two factors, Dallas is hardly South Oklahoma. If you got to know it better, you would not be able to say this, even tongue-in-mandible.
My hometown may not be my favorite TX town, but it has its own attitude, atmosphere, identity, and ethos--apart from the obvious physical differences. It is in many ways a convenient city to live in, and the metroplex is a world-class urban community. Oklahoma? It's OK.
Edit @ David - Wow, looks like fun. As far as your past loss goes, it's not popular to say so, but there are some things that no rational, healthy person completely gets over.
Yeah, you're right. I was just joshin' a bit. I've actually not been to the Dallas area in close to 15 years, and I've heard that things have changed quite a bit in that time. I still fear Dallas girls and avoid them at all costs when I see a flock of them stumbling through my blessed downtown entertainment district. I also heard that the one place in Dallas that I frequented, Deep Ellum, has seen some gentrification and I'm interested to see how that all worked out.
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Hey...did I step in sumthin? Dagnabit, I went and got yuanti guts all over my boot heel...Well played.
I suppose I should have added that I currently reside in Rockwall, just east of Dallas. :)
Dallas? May as well be Oklahoma! ;)
Edit: (After reading a bit further down the thread) Markurion, I lived in Deep Ellum for a couple years in the '90s. I stand by my statement.
And, I LOVED the Dallas Morning News front page story (and continued on the whole of page two) a few years back bowing down to H-Town's superiority, complete with charts, graphs and stats detailing how Houston owns Dallas.
The women in Big D are friendly though, I'll give y'all that :)
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I don't know anyone who consumes either on a regular basis. Dr. Pepper tends to be the soft drink of choice, and I don't know, maybe Twinkies or something.Oh no, hillbillies are all my area o' the Ozarks! You havent lived till you eat homemade possum stew and drink chicory coffee! WALMART is king here and people just dont remember any better. Roadside stands with "Giffs and Kraffs" are popping up. Little wood planks with painted kitties n duckies n cowsies n snowmansies...arent they soooo cute?
But I swear Moonpies and RC were EVERYWHERE I went when traveling around O! K! L! A! H! O! M! A!
Hmmph. Leave it to an Okie to put a "." after the "Dr" in Dr Pepper...
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I also heard that the one place in Dallas that I frequented, Deep Ellum, has seen some gentrification and I'm interested to see how that all worked out.
I moved away from Deep Ellum right when they started the Ross Ave. gentrification (tail end of '95/very first of '96). Best I can say, from recent visits, is: Deep Ellum Lite, or West End East. Take your pick. Apparently, everyone I knew from back then moved to Austin. My gf's friend told me "Yeah, all the cool kids bolted for anywhere but here."
Sad, really, Deep Ellum was a nice slice of weirdness in a very un-weird town. I mean, seriously, ARLINGTON has a better alt/punk scene than Dallas now...
Yeah, like we're gonna take a Houstonian's word on this score! Houston is just jealous from their ongoing inability to equal Dallas' culture in spite of out-sizing us. Probably comes from its rice cooker atmosphere? Although, I'll give you this, Houston has a great school and just as many cute Asian girls as the metroplex. (And yes, my stream of thought really is that transparent.)
And it's true, there has been some gentrification in East Dallas and some clean-up of downtown, which have made Deep Ellum a little more mixed than in used to be. But if you can't still find weirdness that meets your taste levels in Deep Ellum, well, bro, yoy're either not looking very hard, or your taste for weirdness is much more extreme than mine. Even then, much weirder than Oklahoma, if we are using weirdness as one criterion in our non-Oklahoma canon.
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I also heard that the one place in Dallas that I frequented, Deep Ellum, has seen some gentrification and I'm interested to see how that all worked out.I moved away from Deep Ellum right when they started the Ross Ave. gentrification (tail end of '95/very first of '96). Best I can say, from recent visits, is: Deep Ellum Lite, or West End East. Take your pick. Apparently, everyone I knew from back then moved to Austin. My gf's friend told me "Yeah, all the cool kids bolted for anywhere but here."
Sad, really, Deep Ellum was a nice slice of weirdness in a very un-weird town. I mean, seriously, ARLINGTON has a better alt/punk scene than Dallas now...
I'm old and don't do anything, so I don't know; I also heard Russ Martin talking on the radio about being clubbed on the back of the head and losing your wallet is a typical "welcome to Deep Ellum" ritual, so I don't fart around much anyway.
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Yeah, like we're gonna take a Houstonian's word on this score! Houston is just jealous from their ongoing inability to equal Dallas' culture in spite of out-sizing us. Probably comes from its rice cooker atmosphere? Although, I'll give you this, Houston has a great school and just as many cute Asian girls as the metroplex. (And yes, my stream of thought really is that transparent.)
And it's true, there has been some gentrification in East Dallas and some clean-up of downtown, which have made Deep Ellum a little more mixed than in used to be. But if you can't still find weirdness that meets your taste levels in Deep Ellum, well, bro, yoy're either not looking very hard, or your taste for weirdness is much more extreme than mine. Even then, much weirder than Oklahoma, if we are using weirdness as one criterion in our non-Oklahoma canon.
Dallas? More culture than the city with, oh, the second highest concentration of theater/symphony seating in the country (next to New York)? With more sit-down fine dining establishments? With more priceless art available for public viewing (especially the Menil collection, largest private art collection open to the public - for free - in the state)? More cultured than a city often cited by many Europeans as having the nicest people in the US by far? (Dallas people aren't generally considered friendly by visitors, btw, a complaint I have often heard...). Heck, even Dallas's one major claim, culture wise, (the only five star/five diamond restaurant/hotel in the Southwest - The Mansion at Turtle Creek) is no longer true. After Dean Fearing kind of got complacent, the Mansion lost one Michelin star and one AAA diamond. They may get it back soon, however; Dean was fired and they have a new chef.
Funny, that Dallas Morning News story actually noted Houston was far richer in cultural activities than Dallas ;)
No, my friend, Dallasites play at culture in their quest to be as relevant as NYC, Houstonians quietly practice the art of culture without bragging about it (present case excepted).
As far as "weird", yeah, my standard is pretty weird. Deep Ellum isn't weird any more. Yuppies and SMU kids tend to suppress weirdness...
Ok, enough inter-Texas capping, we have Oklahoma to make us all feel better about where we are...
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I'm old and don't do anything, so I don't know; I also heard Russ Martin talking on the radio about being clubbed on the back of the head and losing your wallet is a typical "welcome to Deep Ellum" ritual, so I don't fart around much anyway.I also heard that the one place in Dallas that I frequented, Deep Ellum, has seen some gentrification and I'm interested to see how that all worked out.I moved away from Deep Ellum right when they started the Ross Ave. gentrification (tail end of '95/very first of '96). Best I can say, from recent visits, is: Deep Ellum Lite, or West End East. Take your pick. Apparently, everyone I knew from back then moved to Austin. My gf's friend told me "Yeah, all the cool kids bolted for anywhere but here."
Sad, really, Deep Ellum was a nice slice of weirdness in a very un-weird town. I mean, seriously, ARLINGTON has a better alt/punk scene than Dallas now...
Russ Martin? Lordy...
He's get mugged at a convent...
Speaking of OK, where's Immora? Is she back? Is she drawing more CotCT minis, now that I've got the AP? :)