Wellards RotRL OOC thread

[Azoun The Sage]

What's the price deal we get from the market?

What i'm looking at:

Mucho has 13,000 (roughly) and i'd like to get his masterwork Shortsword enchanted to a +1 with Keen. Cost for the enchants is 8k flat since he already has the masterwork weapon.

This leaves 5k left over.

Wolfspirit has 16k (roughly) and my plan is to give her 4k from Mucho if Marak can make the Belt of Physical Might (+4) Str/Con with a crafting cost of 20K.

Can Marak make this item? Req's are: Craft Wondrous Item, Bear's Endurance and Bull's Strength.

[Dabbler]

I'm waiting to find out myself - if it is substantial enough, I may be able to afford a few bane arrows...nothing like a few of them give pause for thought to some really big foes.

That's a serious belt, though. I would suggest going for a +2 belt instead, and have cash left for other items. You can always get it boosted up later.

[Set]

Azoun The Sage wrote:

Wolfspirit has 16k (roughly) and my plan is to give her 4k from Mucho if Marak can make the Belt of Physical Might (+4) Str/Con with a crafting cost of 20K.

Can Marak make this item? Req's are: Craft Wondrous Item, Bear's Endurance and Bull's Strength.

DC should be 17, so Marak can do that with a Take 10. (I wouldn't do it if I had to roll dice, since that's just throwing 20,000 gp. out the window, the way I roll...)

[Azoun The Sage]

Yeah I know it's a serious belt, but on the RP side it's something Muchorak would do.

Plus that frees up the gloves and belt currently equipped to be sold, which can return some of that coin.

[Khaladon]

Wow! Very generous Azoun! Big Bear really Does love Wolfspirit! ; )

But of course, since Ali wouldn't know too much about it I'll tell you to feel free to use the sale of her other items to help recap your generosity.

Personally I could go with either belt, but the +4 would be pretty neat. Besides there's not much else that she would want or be interested in, she's a simple girl at heart. Being able to catch her prey easier and kill it quicker would make her a happy girl.

Oh! Wait just thought, she Would be quite interested in items to help Lunas though. Perhaps she could get two +2 B's of PM, one for each of the wolf siblings?

EDIT: She'd also be more than happy to give whatever she has to help Big and Little Bear get whatever they need or want as well.

[Azoun The Sage]

Well in his simplistic mind she was a spirit embodied, and now having two forms seems to be a spirit growing stronger building links with many other great spirits. :D

Actually if it was possible to do a collar, enchanted, to be like the belts that would be cool and good for both Urus and Lunas. What are your thoughts on it Wellard?

After this purchase Muchorak will be saving up, extremely, to get much better weapons. But that's definitely down the line unless someone plans on taking crafting arms and armor.

[Romon]

Go squander your earnings. Some of us still have work to do.

[DM Wellard]

I'd be happy with a collar type belt for the Animal Companions..no problem there..

The deal I gave you at the bazaar was mentioned in the game thread..a 10% discount..and applies to enhancing existing items but not buying new..and Alis healers belt could be used by someone else in the party(remember magical belts resize to the wearer..and you would only get 400 gold for it which is very small change compared to the amounts you are throwing around now.

[Azoun The Sage]

OK, so then the new sword for Muchorak would only run him 7,200gp instead of the 8k. Nice. Thanks.

Khadalon; what is the value of her gloves? I agree with DM Wellard on the belt. That and it's such a small amount of coin.

[Dabbler]

Indeed, saved me 900gp! So I bought a few arrows ... can't go wrong with magic ammo. Otherwise we are pretty well stocked for healing and all, though I may grab a few scrolls.

[Khaladon]

You want that healing belt for Eltariel Dabbs?

for the +2 gloves of strength, we should get 2,000 for their sale, but maybe one of the gang would prefer to 'buy' them off her instead? They're pretty 'handy' heh heh heh

[Azoun The Sage]

Actually those would be useful to Muchorak, but actually I think i'd rather sell them and have Marak craft them into a collar for Ursus.

I really want to make sure he's still formidable in a fight, and not a risk.

[Kevin Mack]

Could Marak make Naria a + 4 headband of charisma and a +2 belt of Dexterity?

[Khaladon]

Azoun The Sage wrote:

Actually those would be useful to Muchorak, but actually I think i'd rather sell them and have Marak craft them into a collar for Ursus.

I really want to make sure he's still formidable in a fight, and not a risk.

Feel free to use/sell them however you like, as far as Ali and I am concerned

[Bill Lumberg]

Will we be starting a new thread for the next chapter?

[Set]

Kevin Mack wrote:

Could Marak make Naria a +4 headband of charisma and a +2 belt of Dexterity?

If we have some time off, sure.

I'd recommend buying a scroll of cat's grace (150 gp) and having Naria cast it during the creation process, 'though, if we determine that we have time to make some stuff. Marak does not have cat's grace on his spell list, and would have a 45% chance of setting your money on fire and dancing around it if he tried to 'wing it' and when big money is on the line, Set rolls d20s like they were d6s. :)

The headband is easy-peasy. He can Take 10 on that.

[Azoun The Sage]

After Magnimar, i'm assuming we are all about done here once the shopping is complete, are we going back to Sandpoint?

[Kevin Mack]

Naria wouldent have a problem getting the scroll to cast.

[DM Wellard]

As to down time you get about two months before the adventure proper kicks off.You can return to Sandpoint for that downtime and I'd like to do a little bit there with the 5 year younger versions off my Jade Regent Characters..as you guys are going to be their inspirations..(they're doomed)

And yes there will be a new thread starting once we have what your getting kit wise sorted out.Will everyone let me know when they have updated their character sheet to reflect this.

[Dabbler]

Done mine already.

[Set]

So far, I've seen;

Muchorak (for Ali) - Belt of Physical Might (+4 Str, +4 Con), 20,000 gp, DC 17, 20 days to craft.

Naria - Headband of Wisdom +4, 8000 gp, DC 13, 8 days to craft.
Naria - Gloves of Dexterity +2, 2000 gp, DC 13, 2 days to craft.

Muchorak / Ali - Collars ('belts') of something not-very-specific for Ursus and Luna?

Marak - raise Headband of Wisdom +2 to +4 (+6000 gp, DC 13, 6 days)
Marak - raise Cloak of Resistance +1 to +2 (+1500 gp, DC 10, 1 day by adding +5 DC to DC 15 to rush it)

If Naria is willing to assist in the creation of her headband and gloves (and can make a DC 10 Spellcraft check), he'll be able to rush those out in 4 days and 1 day, respectively, as well.

Do Roman or Esteriande or Inikai have any specific item requests?

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Barring other immediate needs for cash, and if he's got a few days left at the end for crafting, he intends to craft +1 cloaks of resistance for Inikai, Esteriande, Alisebette, Roman and Naria as gifts. Muchorak will get a mundane cloak in the same style, since he's already got a resistance bonus to saves going on.

He's not a 'surprise gift' sort of guy, and will consult with people on color / style / whatever, rather than foist them all a matching set of lavender cloaks emblazoned with lime-green tentacle-fiends or something that he found on sale somewhere... :)

[Dabbler]

I asked for a Headband of Charisma +2 right back.

[Set]

Cool, that's another 2 days, DC 13 and 2000 gp. Shouldn't be a problem.

[Azoun The Sage]

Set, it'll be a +2 collar (str) for Ursus, only have enough for one AC, and Ali has more spells than Muchorak atm to buff her AC.

I'll post up some RP stuff in the other thread in a few, little swamped at work atm, as always Muchorak has a special way of giving things to Wolfspirit, and will undoubtedly be asking Romon for assistance in dealing with the various shop keepers on selling Wolfspirits gloves and getting his sword enchanted. ;D

[Set]

Updating;

Muchorak (for Ali) - Belt of Physical Might (+4 Str, +4 Con), 20,000 gp, DC 17, 20 days to craft.

Naria - Headband of Wisdom +4, 8000 gp, DC 13, 8 days to craft.
Naria - Gloves of Dexterity +2, 2000 gp, DC 13, 2 days to craft.

Muchorak - Collar ('belt') of +2 Strength for Ursus, 2000 gp, DC 13, 2 days to craft.

Marak - raise Headband of Wisdom +2 to +4 (+6000 gp, DC 13, 6 days).
Marak - raise Cloak of Resistance +1 to +2 (+1500 gp, DC 10, 1 day by adding +5 DC to DC 15 to rush it).

Esteriande - +2 headband of Charisma, 2000 gp, DC 13, 2 days to craft.

If Naria is willing to assist in the creation of her headband and gloves (and can make a DC 10 Spellcraft check), he'll be able to rush those out in 4 days and 1 day, respectively, as well.

Do Roman or Inikai have any specific item requests?

Up to 41 days, so about 19 days left. There's also the option of Naria helping out and reducing some of the lower DC times by cutting 8 hour shifts to 4 hour shifts, if we end up strapped for time.

I let Marak's Spellcraft fall behind (he's only got 3 ranks of a possible 7, since I hadn't crafted anything since 3rd level), but I'll fix that and make sure it doesn't happen again!

[therealthom]

Romon will be glad to help out his friends, Muchorak and Ali.

Set, I'll tap you for something, I don't know what yet. I should probably put some money into weapons. I'll see what's left over.

[Set]

therealthom wrote:

Set, I'll tap you for something,

I can never tell if your innuendo is implied or inferred. :)

And I don't 'tap' for less than 3 black mana.

[Dabbler]

Esteriande will also play her part in keeping the company in good graces - most likely at the opposite social spectrum to Romon...

[Naria Yamyra]

Set wrote:

If Naria is willing to assist in the creation of her headband and gloves (and can make a DC 10 Spellcraft check), he'll be able to rush those out in 4 days and 1 day, respectively, as well.

Sure happy to help (Although I think your thinking of the 3.5 gloves since I pathfinder it is a belt.)

Spellcraft

Headband
1d20 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15

Belt
1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12

Assists with other projects (If needed)

1d20 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11

1d20 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13

1d20 + 8 ⇒ (11) + 8 = 19

1d20 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13

1d20 + 8 ⇒ (14) + 8 = 22

[Naria Yamyra]

Also sheet updated

[Set]

With Naria's help, Marak will also be able to make a Handy Haversack for Roman, without the +5 DC for not knowing secret chest tripping him up.

Does Roman still want one of those?

[Bill Lumberg]

Inikai can supply his version of Shield Other for crafting an item. The difference is that it will make an involuntary connection to share HP damage and that there will be no deflection bonus.

[Alisebett]

So it's settled then? We've got all the new stuff as described?

[Marak Quan]

In the end, Marak spent all 10k of his own percentage on the increase to his headband, the increase to his cloak and the five +1 cloaks of resistance he hands out as gifts to Alisebett, Inikai, Esteriande, Roman and Naria.

His sheet's up-to-date, I think.

[Alisebett]

Thanks for the cloaks Marak! You da bomb! ^-^

And so who wants Ali's Healing Belt?
*Belt of Healing- heal 2d8 3/Day, +2 to Heal skill.*

Ali's up to date

[Bill Lumberg]

Dabbler wrote:

That would be either a use-activated item, by the sound of things (caster level x spell level x 2000gp) or a command word activated item (caster level x spell level x 1800gp). Three uses per day would be 3/5 of the price. It's a 2nd level spell, so it would normally be applied at 3rd level. I can see why you'd want 8th level which would make it almost permanent BUT if it's use-activated, the use can be continuous - and as it is a duration measured in hours, there is no additional expense for it being always on and it can be applied at 3rd level.

So we can do it two ways:
1) continuous use (the effect is always on):
That gives us: 3x2x2000x1 = 12,000gp cost.
You could have these as a protector/protected pair, or a pair that allow you to protect one another. As the item gives shield other it will give the other bonuses of shield other (+1 deflection bonus to AC, +1 resistance bonus on saves).

I would recommend going for this option, it's cheaper and I can see scope for one other feature: You could enhance the deflection bonus at a rate of (bonus squared x 2000)gp, and/or the resistance bonus to saves (bonus squared x 1000)gp. The cost of the less expensive feature of two would be reduced by 25%, and of the cheapest feature 50%. Hence if you wanted it to have a +2 deflection bonus and a +2 resistance bonus, the cost would be:

12,000gp (original cost)
+ {8,000gp (+2 deflection bonus) x 75%} = 6,000gp
+ {4,000gp (+2 resistance bonus) x 50%} = 2,000gp
= 20,000gp.

many thanks, Dabbler.

I went with the first option of three uses per day and a cost of 12,000 gp. There are no bonuses to AC or saves but cest la vie.

Did anyone claim Ironbriar's mithral shirt or did we sell it?

[Dabbler]

We sold it. The total cash for the adventure came to 10K.

[Set]

Hah, that's so us. Still, mithril shirts are cheap enough, for those of us who are still wearing plain old chain shirts. :)

[Dabbler]

Cheaper to chuck 500gp into the kitty and take the one we have, and easier to work around too.

[Dabbler]

A half-gnome? is the <ahem> genome between humans and gnomes compatible?

Don't ask after Romon's welfare, he's a bit tied up at the moment ...

[therealthom]

Set, most of the innuendo is probably unintentional. Tap as in tap on the shoulder. Not threads or maple trees.

Handy haversack is a go.

And thanks for the cloak. Basic black for the half-elven rogue.

****
Tied up, but Romon is a happy boy, at least for that moment.

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I saw Wellard's link to the new thread, but then didn't see any post alerts on the campaign page.

**** I'll try to get all romon's shopping done tonight.

[Azoun The Sage]

In the end I don't know if anything really would happen between Muchorak and Ali; I mean with his reverance for her (being that he thinks she is something supernatural) he wouldn't make the first move.

However if she initiated it he would probably go along with thinking himself having been specially chosen by the spirits for such an act.

Quite an interesting group we have here, and I just love the different dynamics!

[Dabbler]

It's a very interesting group dynamic we have. At this rate we may have to ask what might happen between Naria, Marak and Inikai...

...O_o I want to wipe that out of my brain now.

[Set]

As a result of childhood / parental drama, Marak does not play reindeer games. He's a confirmed bachelor!

That does leave room for all sorts of platonic relationships, 'though.

[Dabbler]

Oh well, that's OK then.

[therealthom]

Wow. Post in the game thread and you get a new entry on your campaign page with new links to the discussion thread. It's almost like we're starting a whole new game.

[Azoun The Sage]

Yeah it's pretty sweet how far the boards have come. I love the new ease of 'em.

@ Khaladon - did you want to do anything more with the 'hunt' or are we pretty much set for the next day and returning to the group at the Dragon tavern?

[Bill Lumberg]

Dabbler wrote:

It's a very interesting group dynamic we have. At this rate we may have to ask what might happen between Naria, Marak and Inikai...

Pass!

[Bill Lumberg]

I just noticed that Inikai never chipped in his share for the wand of levitation. How much was that?

[Dabbler]

900gp total, so 150 each, but I think it came out of the general kitty.