What is a really good non-standard race for a monk? I'm asking because I finally get to start with a level adjusted race, and while i'm kinda going for coolness factor, i don't want to be uneffective. My current leaning is Lizardfolk, but that's my current leaning in everything.
thanks in advance.
I might have a look at Aasimar. They get a CHA and WIS bonus, plus some nifty resistances.
Jermlaine from Monster Manual 2. You'll have to download the 3.5 update from WoTC. It's a +0 LA race with a MASSIVE bonus to wisdom and dexterity. However, they are Tiny Fey, so your unarmed strikes won't be doing a lot of damage for awhile and you'll have to move into your opponent's space to attack, but think of the awesomeness of a Tiny rat-like monk.
Goliath if you can talk your DM into ruling that their "Over-sized Build" or whatever you call it that let's them wield Large weapons also lets them do Large unarmed Monk damage.
Jermlaine from Monster Manual 2. You'll have to download the 3.5 update from WoTC. It's a +0 LA race with a MASSIVE bonus to wisdom and dexterity. However, they are Tiny Fey, so your unarmed strikes won't be doing a lot of damage for awhile and you'll have to move into your opponent's space to attack, but think of the awesomeness of a Tiny rat-like monk.
Can you link to this page? I can't find it.
Can you link to this page? I can't find it.
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Then the Jermlaine is on page 131 of MM2.
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What is a really good non-standard race for a monk?
Githzerai (MM, page 129).
I DM for a goliath monk, and let him do Large sized damage. He's a lot of fun.
Githzerai is both classic, not typical, and an awesome choice. (+6 Dex, +2 Wis, and quasi-permanent psionic mage armor--that's +8 to AC FOR FREE!)
Agreed, Githzerai seems to be built specificly for the Monk class.
That's because they were, the githzerai ARE a monk race, they just sit around practicing punching mindflayers and githyanki.
And Yeah playing one is super cool.
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Agreed, Githzerai seems to be built specificly for the Monk class.That's because they were, the githzerai ARE a monk race, they just sit around practicing punching mindflayers and githyanki.
And Yeah playing one is super cool.
Note to self: In the future, be sure to use smilies when making smartass remarks. :D
Note to self: In the future, be sure to use smilies when making smartass remarks. :DAgreed, Githzerai seems to be built specificly for the Monk class.That's because they were, the githzerai ARE a monk race, they just sit around practicing punching mindflayers and githyanki.
And Yeah playing one is super cool.
Ahh, my apologies, I should have guessed :)
i'm definatly gunning for a Githzeri monk now...
I'd go for something big 'n' beefy myself, like the aforementioned goliath, or a centaur
I'd go for something big 'n' beefy myself, like the aforementioned goliath, or a centaur
Ooh... centaur monk... flurry/hoof/hoof combo... nice! "Slow fall" for centaurs sort of streteches the bounds of my credibility, though. :)
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I'd go for something big 'n' beefy myself, like the aforementioned goliath, or a centaurOoh... centaur monk... flurry/hoof/hoof combo... nice! "Slow fall" for centaurs sort of streteches the bounds of my credibility, though. :)
Well, how about a Minotaur? Round 1, Gore attack. Round 2, Flurry. Large size plus the ability to never be caught Flatfooted.
Or a Satyr(with pipes)?
I like halfing monks. Hin-fist all the way!
Nymph Monk, going into Duelist (with Siang). Add Dex + Wis + Cha + Int to AC! Also, all good Saves plus add Cha to Saves.
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Something I just remembered. Someone suggested an Aasimar Monk. A better idea is a multiclassed Aasimar Monk/Paladin with the Aesetic Knight Feat; which allows you to stack class levels for determining the potency of certain class features(such as Monk unarmed damage and the Paladin's Smite Evil), and allows you to progress through the levels as you wish, instead of forcing you to level in one, then abandon that path forever as you change to the other. It does not grant you class features that you haven't actually earn just because you're at the effective character level(a Paladin 3/Monk 2 does not get the +1 to AC for being ECL 5, since its Monk 5 that grants that).
One thing to realize about races with natural attacks, you can't use those in a flurry of blows and they don't get more powerful as your unarmed strike does.
Personally I think half-orcs make pretty good monks.
... I got told no psionics... :(
I did ask about using natural weapons with my flurry because I wasn't aware of the official position my DM had, and I was told it would be ok if I gave up my 6th level bonus feat, the logic being that at 6th level our primary fighter is still making more attacks than I am (with the two weapon fighting tree, and assuming he won't have any natural attacks either). Also, in one of the Dragons there was a Beast Strike feat that lets you add your claw or slam to your unarmed strike and grapple damage, so I went ahead and got the OK on that. He did tell me that there is no way I can take two weapon fighting though.
He's bringing me a book called Bastards and Bloodlines to look through for some ideas too, said it had a ton of half-breed character races in it. But I'm still taking suggestions ;)
A Goliath Monk (Overwhelming Attack Fighting Style) can be a very effective battlefield controller. Use the rules on Reducing Level Adjustments to bring the LA from +1 to +0. Some levels of Reaping Mauler and maybe a variant of Tattooed Monk (instead of tattoos, the powers are from the goliath's skin patterns attaining "mystical" configurations) could be options.
An interesting experiment might be a Raptorian Monk (Cobra Strike Fighting Style; possibly swapping out Spring Attack for Flyby Attack to make it "Eagle Strike"). It's a LA +0 race, but the non-magical flight after 4th level can give you some great options.