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I've just heard it on EnWorld. Apparently, there's a paragon path for the ranger class in the 4th edition Player's Handbook (paragon paths are sort of prestige classes) which is called "Pathfinder". The first power the paragon path grants is called "Wrong step".
I think that's a nice, light hearted industry stab at Paizo :)
And I think the Paizo community should repay the honorable mention in like spirit, which means the following. Collect your thoughts, and think of something light hearted, witty, and memorable about 4th edition that could name a feat, a spell, or a monster. No silly puns on the number 4, for instance. To give you an idea of what I have in mind, have a look at "Garyx" on page 33 of your Draconomicon 3.5.
I suggest the winner makes it into the Pathfinder RPG rulebook. What do you say?
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I've just heard it on EnWorld. Apparently, there's a paragon path for the ranger class in the 4th edition Player's Handbook (paragon paths are sort of prestige classes) which is called "Pathfinder". The first power the paragon path grants is called "Wrong step".
I think that's a nice, light hearted industry stab at Paizo :)
Unfortunately, this was present in earlier versions of the PHB from last fall, and I'm sure from before then. So either they knew what was coming, or it's just a coincidence.
I say Wizards gets a 0-lvl cantrip called "High-jacked by 11 year olds". The restrictions are the spell can only be cast near a body of water.
Still working on the effect...
Didn't they send a Pathfinder to Mars?
Natty Bumppo is the REAL Pathfinder. Accepteth no substitutes!
I've just heard it on EnWorld. Apparently, there's a paragon path for the ranger class in the 4th edition Player's Handbook (paragon paths are sort of prestige classes) which is called "Pathfinder". The first power the paragon path grants is called "Wrong step".
I think that's a nice, light hearted industry stab at Paizo :)
I wouldn't call it light-hearted. It's light-hearted if you do it to buddies, not competition you've been fighting for months (I call that fighting: Taking away the license for the mags, waiting so long with the GSL so their actions were forced, and then coming out with the "If you go GSL you may never go OGL again" part)
No silly puns on the number 4, for instance.
So no "4e-diots"?
As for earlier PHB versions: Pathfinder is over a year old now. They could refer to the APs (which were done after wizards took back the mag licenses). It was at that time when Paizo decided to go into direct competition (Pathfinder versus wizards' own adventures)
Heh, good find Windjammer, that is pretty amusing.
From what I've heard about 4th Ed, here's my idea for a dark-artificer-style ability.
Touch of Diablo (Sp): You touch an otherwise normal, well-functioning object or construct and infuse it with instability. Select one of the object's abilities which can normally be used at will. That ability now becomes a per-encounter power until the start of the next activity cycle (i.e. next sunrise, etc.).
/me grins
How about this. Once there was a wizard, who wanted a ink pen to write what ever he said. His first attempt was fine, his seconed was better, thrid time was the charm but no one wanted to learn this 3rd level spell, which seemed too powerful mearly to to write words on a scroll. So the Wizard went back to his tower and worked really hard to make the spell a lot more simple. He failed miserbly. He became the joke of the guild but eveyone still used the spell, which was jokienly called.......
4th ed.
Conjuration
Level 0 Wiz only,(no sor. in this scroll).
Components: Little bit of Sh**
Casting Time: One trip to the restroom.
Range: Touch
Duration: About 5 years.
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes, say "Pathfinder" (harmless)
This spell instantly turns any spell book into instant toilet paper.
I declare this spell to be completly open and free to use in any OGL game you may want. :)
Yeah, I suppose that's funny in a teenager-who-makes-jokes-about-bodily-funtions kind of way, however, I thought the good-natured challenge was to some up with something toungue-in-cheek we might persuade Paizo to slip into Pathfinder. I can't see a spell about bathroom humor doing anything to make PRPG shine, You know?
stuffRound 2:
Standard action: Use skill: Craft (Bridge-building)
Move action: Far enough to get over it
Craft can't be done as a standard action. You have to track your progress in weeks (or in days, if you use copper pieces).
It takes a long time to build such a bridge.
Interestingly, though, it takes only a standard action to destroy it.
What about a "Fourtean Warrior" template, inherited, can be put onto anything
It grants you a number of powers, some of which can be used per day, some at will, some per encounter. There's several powers, but you don't get to choose from them, and they're basically all the same.
The template also strips the base creature of all personality and non-combat stats or applications. The Ecology paragraph will state that they only fight, appearing at random in front of adventurers.
Alternately, make a coastal wizard variant class, and give it a "step backward" ability.
Or a spell named "greedy confusion"
Yeah, I suppose that's funny in a teenager-who-makes-jokes-about-bodily-funtions kind of way, however, I thought the good-natured challenge was to some up with something toungue-in-cheek we might persuade Paizo to slip into Pathfinder. I can't see a spell about bathroom humor doing anything to make PRPG shine, You know?
Oh come on Laithoron, you laughed a little just a little? No? Alright I'll grow up.
First off take away preconceptions of the company, (and without having actually looking at the passage) my gut tells me this was not intentional. Moreover I think the guys at Paizo, if they see this as a slam at all, won't take our suggestions as I'm sure they have something so insider that none of us would get it with out explanation. Never mind the fact that by the time the Pathfinder RPG comes out most of the guys at Wizards will prob. be laid off.
But like I said, in the end I doubt this was intentional.
But come on you laughed just a little.
Moreover I think the guys at Paizo, if they see this as a slam at all....
Let me finish that: "... they won't lower themselves to the same level.
So we'll be on our own with our childish backlashes and be doing them only for our own immature amusement and selfish edification. Which is fine by me ;-)
Never mind the fact that by the time the Pathfinder RPG comes out most of the guys at Wizards will prob. be laid off.
You might be onto something there.
Pathfinders and Rangers are also both older versions of girl guides (at least in Canada).
Pathfinder is the direct translation of german Pfadfinder, wich is a boy scout.
I really don't know what to make of this?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3682/dungeonsfinderyo7.jpg
I really don't know what to make of this?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3682/dungeonsfinderyo7.jpg
Coincidence? It is a very dynamic composition. :)
Pathfinder is the direct translation of german Pfadfinder, wich is a boy scout.
Pfadfinder can also be scout or, well, pathfinder. Doesn't have to be some boys stumbling through the woods.
I really don't know what to make of this?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3682/dungeonsfinderyo7.jpg
I do: I like the lower one better :P (The shark dragon's weird.)
Ok, since "we" are much better and more grown-up than the boys at WotC we shouldn't put the same lame stuff into our classes, but into our RICH AND FLAVOURFUL CAMPAIGN WORLDS.
I am thinking about a mighty and all-dominating magocracy at some *cough* coastal region *cough*, which crumbled to dust as they released more and more new (and crazy) laws until their oppressed citizens rebeled and otherthrow their insane terror regime and formed the Pathfinder Society to scan the land for remnants of their still loyal cultists.
;)
I think it's all quite civilized here, and the commotion is only because of the "current events". I think in a week or two it's over and nobody will think of it anymore...
Ok, since "we" are much better and more grown-up than the boys at WotC we shouldn't put the same lame stuff into our classes, but into our RICH AND FLAVOURFUL CAMPAIGN WORLDS.
I am thinking about a mighty and all-dominating magocracy at some *cough* coastal region *cough*, which crumbled to dust as they released more and more new (and crazy) laws until their oppressed citizens rebeled and otherthrow their insane terror regime and formed the Pathfinder Society to scan the land for remnants of their still loyal cultists.
;)
Azlant could work well. It was on an island continent, after all.
And thassalion was in part on the coast, as far as I know.
But those guys were all totally cool (and proper evil), so they won't work ;-)
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One thing I've tried to make up re my own suggestion is an at will power for the DM. Needless to say, it can't make it into the PRGP :)
"Shifty-shifty!"
At will - Dungeon Master (all levels of play)
Cast when players display boredom
Effect: DM says "Shifty shifty! And now you guys switch character sheets! Clockwise!". Players do as told.
Save: Spot check negates - otherwise, players WON'T NOTICE a thing
1. PC "powers" in 4th edition to a great extent annihilate class differences except for a minor amount of flavor text. It basically makes little difference, game-mechanically, what class you play. The special powers of a wizard occupy the same length of text in the PHB as all the other classes, and in a great many cases, his powers' effects match that of other classes. That's why a Spot check negates shifty shifty. Except that 4th edition has made it much, much harder to succeed on that spot check.
2. The power's name derives from the fact that 4th edition presupposes that people enjoy "shifting" miniatures around. Enjoy it a LOT. In fact so much, that 4th edition doesn't tell you much about what ELSE you can do in the game. So DMs better introduce rules where players shift other game elements too. Dice, sheets, chairs, slices of pizza, you name it.
Don´t you guys think you are over reading? Examine these facts:
-Pathfinder isn´t going to compete 4e at all. You want to play 3.5 with a bunch of new stuff? Go Pathfinder. You want to play something new? Go play 4e. We are talking about two different kinds of people here.
-Pathfinder actually is another name for survival "ranger" in many cultures.
-The "Wrong step" power is actually a pretty cool move which means drawing your foes to a trap and then attacking them. The Pathfinder is a pretty cool paragon path overall.
You guys are so touchy about this that are willing to created a whole kingdom just to make a reference to WOTC, while using an older system from WOTC itself with just a bunch of new stuff tacked over it.
Finger of Death. Go kill yourself!
;)
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I've just heard it on EnWorld. Apparently, there's a paragon path for the ranger class in the 4th edition Player's Handbook (paragon paths are sort of prestige classes) which is called "Pathfinder". The first power the paragon path grants is called "Wrong step".
I think that's a nice, light hearted industry stab at Paizo :)
Friggin hilarious. If this was intentional, then my hat goes off to WotC. That has style.
Moreover I think the guys at Paizo, if they see this as a slam at all....Let me finish that: "... they won't lower themselves to the same level.
But we can still have fun with the idea:
TTMMORPG
(properly known as 'Targeted Tranmutational Massive Misdirectional Overture to Really Punk you Good)
Sorcerer/Wizard spell (level...?)
...stuff...
Effect: The target of this spell becomes hopelessly confused about their world paradigm insisting on acting as if they were operating in another dimension were the rules and means of conduct are radically different, but notably inappropriate for the present reality.
You might be onto something there.
Never mind the fact that by the time the Pathfinder RPG comes out most of the guys at Wizards will prob. be laid off.
They'll be working at Paizo or Green Ronin, where everybody else who ever did anything for D&D over the last 3 decades seems to have ended up... :)
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FourthEd
Wizard 4(e)
Casting Time: Full Round Action (Would have been better with, oh, a full year of playtesting, perhaps as a free download? Naw...)
Components: Multi-Media Campaign, Bluster, lots of talking and put-on enthusiasm.
Range: The Internet, anyone within conversational range of the Coastal Wizards who pedal the Spell.
Target: The entire World...
Duration: Until FifthEd appears, about 1.5 Years.
Saving Throw: Will negates. 'Find the Path' will allow the target to come to their senses as well...
Description:
Actually a Curse effect diabolically conceived by the Coastal Wizards of Ren-Ton, the FourthEd spell causes the target to cast aside common sense and embrace the tenets of the Spell. The Target is given a little time to 'wrap up their existing stories', and persuaded to forget all of their efforts up to that point, be they alchemical experiments, esoteric studies or well crafted Campaigns. When this condition is completed, the target then shoots themselves in the foot.
-Uriel
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Don´t you guys think you are over reading? Examine these facts:
-Pathfinder isn´t going to compete 4e at all. You want to play 3.5 with a bunch of new stuff? Go Pathfinder. You want to play something new? Go play 4e. We are talking about two different kinds of people here.
-Pathfinder actually is another name for survival "ranger" in many cultures.
-The "Wrong step" power is actually a pretty cool move which means drawing your foes to a trap and then attacking them. The Pathfinder is a pretty cool paragon path overall.You guys are so touchy about this that are willing to created a whole kingdom just to make a reference to WOTC, while using an older system from WOTC itself with just a bunch of new stuff tacked over it.
Dude, we are just having a bit of fun... (At least I am)
-Uriel